Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Note that while there is a difference between GMT and UTC, mostly
 computers are set to GMT.  The M is for Mean time which smooths over
 leap seconds that occur in UTC due to the jitter of the earth's
 rotation.  Check wikipedia for a more precise answer.  Note, however,
 that its unlikely that you'll manage to keep your system clock, even
 with ntpd, close enough to one or the other to notice the differnce
 (which needs sub-second accuracy).  

The error with ntpd should be well below one second, unless your machine is
turned off for an extended period of time.


Stefan


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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-03 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 14:57 -0400, Celejar wrote:
 On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:49:10 -0300
 Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. And
 
 Try 'grep UTC /etc/default/rcS'
 
  how can I switch from one to another?
 
 Read the UTC section of 'man rcS'.
 
  Thanks in advance
  
  Marcelo
 
 Celejar

Thank you for all the feedback! 
Because I have a dual boot system, etch and XP, I need the same time
defined in both. Following the advice of Celejar, I changed the UTC
entry of /etc/default/rcS to NO. Now both system are using the time
defined in the BIOS.

Thanks again

Marcelo


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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:49:10 -0300
Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. And

Try 'grep UTC /etc/default/rcS'

 how can I switch from one to another?

Read the UTC section of 'man rcS'.

 Thanks in advance
 
 Marcelo

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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 04:49:10PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. And
 how can I switch from one to another?

umm... aren't they the same thing? at least practically speaking? 

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GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. And
how can I switch from one to another?

Thanks in advance

Marcelo

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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 04:49:10PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 
 I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. And
 how can I switch from one to another?
 

Do you mean is your hardware clock set to GMT/UTC or localtime during
install?  Go to VT2 and type date.  If the time is correct for where
you're living, then its on local.  If the time would be correct for UTC
then its UTC.  If its not correct for either, you may want to reboot
into the BIOS and set the time to close to GMT.

Note that while there is a difference between GMT and UTC, mostly
computers are set to GMT.  The M is for Mean time which smooths over
leap seconds that occur in UTC due to the jitter of the earth's
rotation.  Check wikipedia for a more precise answer.  Note, however,
that its unlikely that you'll manage to keep your system clock, even
with ntpd, close enough to one or the other to notice the differnce
(which needs sub-second accuracy).  

Doug.


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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Marcelo Chiapparini told:

 Hi!
 
 I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. 

$ date

 And
 how can I switch from one to another?

$ date -u

$ man 1 date

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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:58:30 +0100
Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
 Marcelo Chiapparini told:
 
  Hi!
  
  I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. 
 
 $ date
 
  And
  how can I switch from one to another?
 
 $ date -u
 
 $ man 1 date

We need to clarify the issue.  I understood (see my other message in
this thread) the OP to be asking about the hardware clock; you are
discussing the system clock.

 Elimar

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Re: GMT vs UTC

2007-11-02 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Celejar told:

 On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:58:30 +0100
 Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
  Marcelo Chiapparini told:
  
   Hi!
   
   I am running etch. How can I know if the clock is set to GMT or UTC. 
  
  $ date
  
   And
   how can I switch from one to another?
  
  $ date -u
  
  $ man 1 date
 
 We need to clarify the issue.  I understood (see my other message in
 this thread) the OP to be asking about the hardware clock; you are
 discussing the system clock.

hwclock(8)

Elimar


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