Re: GNOME query

1999-04-04 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 HM == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

HM Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel.

I have a /usr7doc/gnome dir with some info. README.Debian says:

My .xsession file looks something like this:

xsetroot -solid slategrey 
xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
fvwm2   
exec /usr/bin/gnome-session

HM Hamish (diehard fvwm2 user)

You can continue useing it. See
http://www.internet-treff.uni-koeln.de/~martin/shot.jpg for my fvwm2
desktop using gnome.

Although I am not using gnome all the time. I noticed that moving
between virtual desks (something I do quite often and fast) takes more 
time than without the panel running. Especially, if there are several
overlapping windows.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: GNOME query

1999-04-04 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:07:49 -0800 (PST), Gary Singleton wrote:

Does icewm-gnome offer anything that icewm doesn't?  I like icewm primarily
for it's simplicity and apparent low resource usage.  Is the gnome version
just built using the gnome libraries? 

Exactly.  There really isn't much change at all.  I run icewm on my
laptop and icewm-gnome on my main machine.  No real difference in look or
feel.


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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-04 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0500 (EST), William R Pentney wrote:

I just installed GNOME and use it with fvwm2, and it seems to work nicely,
but I haven't tried it with others yet. Am I missing out on anything? Is
this a particularly bad choice?

Well, AFAIK fvwm2 isn't compiled for use with Gnome.  It would be like
installing KDE and not using KWM.  It'll work, just not with all the bells
and whistles.



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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-04 Thread James Mastros
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 07:30:53PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0500 (EST), William R Pentney wrote:
 
 Well, AFAIK fvwm2 isn't compiled for use with Gnome.  It would be like
 installing KDE and not using KWM.  It'll work, just not with all the bells
 and whistles.
In puticular, notably:
1) Things will maximize over the panel.
2) Things won't appear in the gnome-pager applet (taskbar like).
3) Things will get icons (assuming that fvwm2 uses icons, I wouldn't know)
   even if you use gnome-pager.
   
-=- James Mastros


Re: GNOME query

1999-04-04 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 4 Apr 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

 My .xsession file looks something like this:
 
 xsetroot -solid slategrey 
 xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults
 fvwm2   
 exec /usr/bin/gnome-session

Is there anything in gnome besides the gnome pager that doesn't work with
the (non gnome-compliant) fvwm2 window manager?

I saw a link to fvwm2gnome on the themes.org site, but the link didn't
work. Is there such a project?

...RickM...



GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I'm just experimenting with GNOME -- I've never tried it before.
I downloaded some of the packages from the staging area.

Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel.
Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running
and asked if I want another.

I restarted everything and just ran gnome-session, and eventually
I get a solid colour background and gnome-help but no panel.

What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
(never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
top. No default configuration? Strange.

My xinitrc so far says

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin

enlightenment 
gnome-session 
xterm

Please help me make this do something useful. :-)


thanks,


Hamish (diehard fvwm2 user)

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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel.
Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running
and asked if I want another.

Gnome, uhm, isn't really started.  It is a collection of libraries and
an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share information.  To see
Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some of the Gnome utilities.

What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
(never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
top. No default configuration? Strange.

Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV, however.  Enlightenment is nice
and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful.

Please help me make this do something useful. :-)

Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I think anyone can give you.
Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for anything which has gnome- at
the start.  Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg or apt.


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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Gary Singleton
Does icewm-gnome offer anything that icewm doesn't?  I
like icewm primarily for it's simplicity and apparent
low resource usage.  Is the gnome version just built
using the gnome libraries?

Thanks, G.S.

--- Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt
 wrote:
 
 Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a
 nice panel.
 Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel
 was already running
 and asked if I want another.
 
 Gnome, uhm, isn't really started.  It is a
 collection of libraries and
 an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share
 information.  To see
 Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some
 of the Gnome utilities.
 
 What's the best window manager to use to? I
 installed enlightment
 (never used this before either!) and all I get from
 it is a bar up the
 top. No default configuration? Strange.
 
 Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV,
 however.  Enlightenment is nice
 and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too
 slow to really be useful.
 
 Please help me make this do something useful. :-)
 
 Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I
 think anyone can give you.
 Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for
 anything which has gnome- at
 the start.  Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg
 or apt.
 
 
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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread William R Pentney
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:

 What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
 (never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
 top. No default configuration? Strange.
 
 Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV, however.  Enlightenment is nice
 and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful.

I just installed GNOME and use it with fvwm2, and it seems to work nicely,
but I haven't tried it with others yet. Am I missing out on anything? Is
this a particularly bad choice?

- Bill