Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-30 Thread cls
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roby wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'd like to be able to test and demonstrate live CDs.
 Is there a way to tell GRUB to boot a CD?
 
 Cameron

 Yes there is!  Look here:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06678.html

That was just *too* easy.  For the record:
mount Debian install CD at /media/cdrom0.  Copy image
to boot directory.  Copy memdisk from syslinux.
Add to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  Thank you!

  dd if=/media/cdrom0/install/sbm.bin of=/boot/sbm.img bs=1k count=32
  cp /usr/lib/syslinux/memdisk /boot
  cat  /boot/grub/menu.lst woot

title  boot whatever CD is in the drive, via SBM
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/memdisk
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/sbm,img

woot

Of course if you don't like typing into cat(1), you
can use a text editor.


Cameron








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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-29 Thread Roby
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 07:56:22AM +1000, M-L wrote:
 On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us
 all:
 --} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson wrote:
 --}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --} 
 --}  sbm (smart boot manager)
 --}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd
 to
  a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
 --}
 --} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
 --}
 --} Doug.
 
 I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?
 
 But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at startup?
 That is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from CDROM if you
 have SMB on a CD?
 
 
 Clarification:  it will boot the floppy but it won't boot the CDROM.
 
 Doug.
I get a Disk error from SBM on my P166, but if I retry it a time or two,
it works.  Persistence pays.


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:47:39PM +1000, M-L wrote:
 On Sunday 29 April 2007 09:38, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
 --} On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 07:56:22AM +1000, M-L wrote:
 --}  On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with
  us all: --}  --} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson
  wrote: --}  --}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --}  --} 
 --}  --}  sbm (smart boot manager)
 --}  --}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you
  dd to --}   a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
 --}  --}
 --}  --} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
 --} 
 --}  I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?
 --} 
 --}  But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at
  startup? That --}  is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from
  CDROM if you have SMB --}  on a CD?
 --}
 --} Clarification:  it will boot the floppy but it won't boot the CDROM.
 
 Change that behaviour in the BIOS. That's if the machine is capable of 
 booting 
 from the CDROM?

Its not.  My BIOS doesn't know anything about CDROMS since they were
hugely expensive when that box was made in 1992.

IIRC, the part of this thread before the comments you quoted was about
getting a computer whos bios can't boot a CDROM to boot a CDROM and
someone else suggested sbm.  I had tried it last year on my 486 and it
didn't work.

Doug.


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread David Dawson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
 
 I've got an old Compaq laptop.  It can boot from hard
 drive or floppy but not from CD.  I installed Etch
 by moving its hard drive to another machine
 temporarily.  The CD drive is fine.  The BIOS is
 just too stupid to boot from it.
 
 I'd like to be able to test and demonstrate live CDs.
 Is there a way to tell GRUB to boot a CD?
 Sections 3.4 and 11.1 of the GRUB manual say to
 use device name (cd) or maybe (cd0) but
 that gives an Error 23: Error while parsing number.
 
 Letting the grub shell complete root (
 I get Possible disks are:  fd0 hd0.  No CD.
 I get the same on a system that *does* boot CDs
 properly.
 I tried chainloader /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito
 but that's an Error 13, Invalid or unsupported executable
 format.
 
 
 
 Cameron
 
 
 
 
 
 
There's another method, too:
sbm (smart boot manager)
It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to a
floppy and use it to boot from.

It is available as a package also, evidently
-- 
If you wrestle in the mud with a pig,
you both get dirty and the pig likes it.
-- Dave Dawson


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 sbm (smart boot manager)
 It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to a
 floppy and use it to boot from.

I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.  

Doug.


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread M-L
On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
--} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson wrote:
--}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--} 
--}  sbm (smart boot manager)
--}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to
 a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
--}
--} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
--}
--} Doug.

I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?

But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at startup? That 
is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from CDROM if you have SMB 
on a CD?

Charlie

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something; I will not refuse to do something I can do. ...Helen 
Keller


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 07:56:22AM +1000, M-L wrote:
 On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
 --} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson wrote:
 --}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --} 
 --}  sbm (smart boot manager)
 --}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to
  a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
 --}
 --} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
 --}
 --} Doug.
 
 I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?
 
 But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at startup? That 
 is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from CDROM if you have SMB 
 on a CD?
 

Clarification:  it will boot the floppy but it won't boot the CDROM.  

Doug.


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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-28 Thread M-L
On Sunday 29 April 2007 09:38, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with us all:
--} On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 07:56:22AM +1000, M-L wrote:
--}  On Saturday 28 April 2007 22:49, Douglas Allan Tutty shared this with
 us all: --}  --} On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 06:28:02AM +, David Dawson
 wrote: --}  --}  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--}  --} 
--}  --}  sbm (smart boot manager)
--}  --}  It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you
 dd to --}   a --}  floppy and use it to boot from.
--}  --}
--}  --} I have an IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 and smb did not work on it.
--}  --}
--}  --} Doug.
--} 
--}  I haven't followed this thread, so this might be a silly question?
--} 
--}  But you have checked that your BIOS seeks your floppy drive at
 startup? That --}  is if you have SMB on floppy, or that you can boot from
 CDROM if you have SMB --}  on a CD?
--} 
--}
--} Clarification:  it will boot the floppy but it won't boot the CDROM.
--}
--} Doug.

Change that behaviour in the BIOS. That's if the machine is capable of booting 
from the CDROM?

Charlie

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For many years I was a self-appointed inspector of snowstorms and rainstorms 
and did my duty faithfully, though I never received payment for 
it. ...Henry David Thoreau


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GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-27 Thread cls
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

I've got an old Compaq laptop.  It can boot from hard
drive or floppy but not from CD.  I installed Etch
by moving its hard drive to another machine
temporarily.  The CD drive is fine.  The BIOS is
just too stupid to boot from it.

I'd like to be able to test and demonstrate live CDs.
Is there a way to tell GRUB to boot a CD?
Sections 3.4 and 11.1 of the GRUB manual say to
use device name (cd) or maybe (cd0) but
that gives an Error 23: Error while parsing number.

Letting the grub shell complete root (
I get Possible disks are:  fd0 hd0.  No CD.
I get the same on a system that *does* boot CDs
properly.
I tried chainloader /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito
but that's an Error 13, Invalid or unsupported executable
format.



Cameron






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Re: GRUB launch a CD?

2007-04-27 Thread Roby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
 
 I've got an old Compaq laptop.  It can boot from hard
 drive or floppy but not from CD.  I installed Etch
 by moving its hard drive to another machine
 temporarily.  The CD drive is fine.  The BIOS is
 just too stupid to boot from it.
 
 I'd like to be able to test and demonstrate live CDs.
 Is there a way to tell GRUB to boot a CD?
 
 Cameron

Yes there is!  Look here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06678.html

I use this on several machines. It works finer than frog hair.




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