galeon and mozilla hang with slow connection

2003-07-28 Thread Micha Feigin
When using galeon and mozilla, if there is a hang with the connection,
i.e whatever request they are performing doesn't happen imediatly they
hang up completly untill they get some reply.
Thus if I try to connect under load or a slow site they don't redraw the
window, don't respond to button, close window requests etc.

Is this the expected behaviour or is it a problem with my system or
mozilla/galeon?


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Re: Galeon AND Mozilla!

2003-02-15 Thread Jason Wojciechowski
Narins, Josh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> (Galeon has no open bugs like I describe)

No, but mozilla-browser does.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=173518

And others like it.  That page gives a workaround to try, as well.

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Re: Galeon AND Mozilla!

2003-02-15 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 15:03, Narins, Josh wrote:
> I use Galeon or Mozilla.
> I was in the train station.
> I booted my laptop.
> I used Galeon.
> I got on the train...
> 
> Galeon: 
> On starting Galeon I see the standard "last time bombed"
> I click discard last session.
> Galeon starts making new windows at the rate of 2 per second, ad
> infinitum(?)
> Clicking X to close the windows, as fast as I can, _sometimes_ stops it.
> Trying to enter an URL in the one remaining window has the same result
> (many, many windows)
> 
> Mozilla:
> CPU usage goes to 99% for a while, then it quits.
> 
> Now, I did NO updates between when it worked and when it did not, so it can
> not be a bug. :(
> (Galeon has no open bugs like I describe)
> 
> Is it a key that is stuck down?
> 
> I am very sad.
> 
> -Josh
> 
> P.S. I did not have net access on the train, was planning to work on my own
> website. Lynx worked.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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If I was handling this on a support phoneline, I'd start with questions
about which train it was, what direction, which side of the aisle, aisle
or window seat, you get the idea. Find the "Any" key ;)

Galeon is one of a handful of Gnome applications that seems to be prone
to looping at creation of new windows. Most of Gnome doesn't do that,
and most of those that have been prone to that have stopped, but I keep
seeing this mentioned enough around Galeon (including in the last couple
of weeks) that it sounds like they haven't *polished* that point up yet.

Usual solution is to rename the ~/.galeon directory - likely something
is corrupted in it from a previous crash.

Mozilla driving the CPU to 99% would be something different - any of a
number of things can do that. How long is "a while" and do you get
anything like a window opening for Mozilla?

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Re: Galeon AND Mozilla!

2003-02-15 Thread DvB
"Narins, Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Galeon: 
> On starting Galeon I see the standard "last time bombed"
> I click discard last session.
> Galeon starts making new windows at the rate of 2 per second, ad
> infinitum(?)
> Clicking X to close the windows, as fast as I can, _sometimes_ stops it.
> Trying to enter an URL in the one remaining window has the same result
> (many, many windows)
> 


Try this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=20030209132006%2413f1%40gated-at.bofh.it


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Galeon AND Mozilla!

2003-02-15 Thread Narins, Josh

I use Galeon or Mozilla.
I was in the train station.
I booted my laptop.
I used Galeon.
I got on the train...

Galeon: 
On starting Galeon I see the standard "last time bombed"
I click discard last session.
Galeon starts making new windows at the rate of 2 per second, ad
infinitum(?)
Clicking X to close the windows, as fast as I can, _sometimes_ stops it.
Trying to enter an URL in the one remaining window has the same result
(many, many windows)

Mozilla:
CPU usage goes to 99% for a while, then it quits.

Now, I did NO updates between when it worked and when it did not, so it can
not be a bug. :(
(Galeon has no open bugs like I describe)

Is it a key that is stuck down?

I am very sad.

-Josh

P.S. I did not have net access on the train, was planning to work on my own
website. Lynx worked.





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Re: javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread DvB
"martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> > If you don't happen to be using the version of mozilla on which your
> > version of galeon is based, you could, theoretically, see very
> > different behaviour do to bugs being fixed or new bugs being
> > introduced.
> 
> But I run Debian, so I don't have to worry, right?
> 

Presumeably. I didn't know if you were running the debian packaged
version or a nightly build.

> > Also, I believe gelon may've introduced some of their own popup
> > blocking/javascript disabling code (I belive the popup blocking code
> > has more to do with the UI than with the gecko rendering engine),
> > which may be less forgiving than mozilla's.
> 
> I agree with you that it's a UI thing, but I can't find anything in
> galeon...

I don't know about 1.2.5, but galeon 1.2.6 from sid had an "Allow
popups" check box under prefs->advanced->filtering that's unchecked by
default.
According to galeon's new page, popup blocking was introduced before
0.11.1 (before mozilla had it, AFAIK):
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/news/index.php

If you can provide some web pages where you're seeing this, I can test
with my versions and see what happens.


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Re: javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.30.1710 +0100]:
> What version of each browser are you using?

ii  mozilla-browse 1.0.0-0.woody. Mozilla Web Browser - core and browser
ii  galeon 1.2.5-0.woody. Mozilla based web browser with GNOME look an

> What are your setting on each one as far as "popup blocking" goes?

Mozilla allows it all.
I can't find anything pertaining to this in Galeon
(other than that I disallowed it to mess with the status bar...)

> If you don't happen to be using the version of mozilla on which your
> version of galeon is based, you could, theoretically, see very
> different behaviour do to bugs being fixed or new bugs being
> introduced.

But I run Debian, so I don't have to worry, right?

> Also, I believe gelon may've introduced some of their own popup
> blocking/javascript disabling code (I belive the popup blocking code
> has more to do with the UI than with the gecko rendering engine),
> which may be less forgiving than mozilla's.

I agree with you that it's a UI thing, but I can't find anything in
galeon...

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Re: javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mark L. Kahnt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.30.1731 +0100]:
> > Who invented Javascript btw? Can we hang him/her for f***ing up the
> > web? I want gopher back!
> 
> IIRC, Javascript was a Netscape creation to offer some extra power to
> Netscape over the last remaining competitors faced in the Netscape
> Browser monopoly days.

Damn. Noone really to kill.

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Re: javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 10:59, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> Why are there many webpages that employ Javascript, which can be used
> with Mozilla but not with Galeon? Mainly, this seems to be about the
> submit() function as well as the function(s) to pop up new windows.
> I though galeon used mozilla to do all the work of the guts?
> 
> Who invented Javascript btw? Can we hang him/her for f***ing up the
> web? I want gopher back!

IIRC, Javascript was a Netscape creation to offer some extra power to
Netscape over the last remaining competitors faced in the Netscape
Browser monopoly days.
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Re: javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread DvB
"Martin F Krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Why are there many webpages that employ Javascript, which can be used
> with Mozilla but not with Galeon? Mainly, this seems to be about the
> submit() function as well as the function(s) to pop up new windows.
> I though galeon used mozilla to do all the work of the guts?
> 
> Who invented Javascript btw? Can we hang him/her for f***ing up the
> web? I want gopher back!


What version of each browser are you using? What are your setting on
each one as far as "popup blocking" goes?
If you don't happen to be using the version of mozilla on which your
version of galeon is based, you could, theoretically, see very different
behaviour do to bugs being fixed or new bugs being introduced. Also, I
believe gelon may've introduced some of their own popup
blocking/javascript disabling code (I belive the popup blocking code has
more to do with the UI than with the gecko rendering engine), which may
be less forgiving than mozilla's.

This, however, is just my (only slightly) educated take on the matter.


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javascript on galeon and mozilla

2002-10-30 Thread Martin F Krafft
Why are there many webpages that employ Javascript, which can be used
with Mozilla but not with Galeon? Mainly, this seems to be about the
submit() function as well as the function(s) to pop up new windows.
I though galeon used mozilla to do all the work of the guts?

Who invented Javascript btw? Can we hang him/her for f***ing up the
web? I want gopher back!

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Re: Same bookmark file for Galeon and Mozilla?

2002-05-20 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:32:37PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to use the same bookmark file for both Galeon and Mozilla?
> 
> I often find it difficult to decide which one I should use.
> Galeon seems to be the better choice, but it also tends to crash more often :(
> The problem is that if I use one of them for a while I always have to
> update my bookmarks in the other. It would be much nicer if they could
> share a common file...

Not exactly the same file, but you can sync your mozilla and galeon
bookmarks. If you select "edit bookmarks" in galeon, you can import
bookmarks from mozilla.  "Save As..." will allow you to export bookmarks
in mozilla format.
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Same bookmark file for Galeon and Mozilla?

2002-05-20 Thread Balazs Javor
Hi,

Is it possible to use the same bookmark file for both Galeon and Mozilla?

I often find it difficult to decide which one I should use.
Galeon seems to be the better choice, but it also tends to crash more often :(
The problem is that if I use one of them for a while I always have to
update my bookmarks in the other. It would be much nicer if they could
share a common file...

Many thanks for your help in advance!
regards,
Balazs


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Re: Rendering difference between Galeon and Mozilla

2001-12-12 Thread DvB
Dominique Deleris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello.
> 
> I've recently (yesterday) installed galeon and mozilla from sid. I'm
> experiencing strange rendering issues with galeon :
> 
> Try to go to http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/ with both
> browsers and feel the difference !!! A lot of other sites behave
> like this.
> 
> I don't understand how this can be, since galeon is based on
> mozilla's engine..?
> 
> Can anybody explain me this?
> 


I'm not sure what you're seeing but, when I first started running galeon
a couple days ago, I noticed a big difference between the way galeon and
mozilla rendered slashcode based sites (slashdot, debianplanet, etc). I
think the way I fixed it was to install libgdkxft0 (which is a
recommended package for mozilla). I also use monotype-arial fonts from
the msttcorefonts package, which looks better than most of the standard
X fonts, IMHO.

HTH



Re: Rendering difference between Galeon and Mozilla

2001-12-12 Thread Dominique Deleris
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:21:16 -0500, dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

 dman> | Try to go to http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/ with both
 dman> | browsers and feel the difference !!! A lot of other sites behave
 dman> | like this.

 dman> Both browsers look the same to me.  Can you post a screenshot of what
 dman> you see on a web site somewhere?

Strange, I do not understand why, but I can't reproduce
it... I've just (or so I think) changed the default charset
(Preferences/Rendering/Languages) to Western (ISO-8859-1)
(instead of Arabic :-) and now everything is fine. However I can
not imagine any relationship ?...

But you can still try with http://www.soaplite.com/

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Re: Rendering difference between Galeon and Mozilla

2001-12-12 Thread dman
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 06:48:18PM +0100, Dominique Deleris wrote:
| Hello.
| 
| I've recently (yesterday) installed galeon and mozilla from sid. I'm
| experiencing strange rendering issues with galeon :

I haven't gotten galeon from sid recently.  I have :

galeon   0.12.4-0.1
mozilla-browser  0.9.5-5

| Try to go to http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/ with both
| browsers and feel the difference !!! A lot of other sites behave
| like this.

Both browsers look the same to me.  Can you post a screenshot of what
you see on a web site somewhere?

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Rendering difference between Galeon and Mozilla

2001-12-12 Thread Dominique Deleris
Hello.

I've recently (yesterday) installed galeon and mozilla from sid. I'm
experiencing strange rendering issues with galeon :

Try to go to http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/ with both
browsers and feel the difference !!! A lot of other sites behave
like this.

I don't understand how this can be, since galeon is based on
mozilla's engine..?

Can anybody explain me this?

Otherwise galeon is superb, but this behaviour is too annoying for
me to use it as main browser. Too bad...

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Galeon and Mozilla builds

2001-06-07 Thread Kai Weber
Hi,

I am using the following Mozilla and Nautilus packages from T.Kitame:

| # Mozilla
| deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./
| # Nautilus
| deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/nautilus ../

Now I am searching for an suitable galeon package. I am not that good in
building and installing own packages. I tried to build galeon 0.10.5
(apt-get -b source galeon) from

| deb-src http://galeon.ufies.org/galeon/ sid/

But it failed because of an unmet dependencie to for Mozialla 0.8.

Any suggestions or tips for me?

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Re: Galeon and Mozilla builds

2001-06-07 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
By the way, I cant get nautilus packages.gz file:
The following error occurs:
$ apt-get udpate
Err http://pandora.debian.org ./ Packages
  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/nautilus/./Packages  404 Not
Found


Em Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:11:00 +0200, Kai Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escreveu:

> Hi,
> 
> I am using the following Mozilla and Nautilus packages from
> T.Kitame:
> 
> | # Mozilla
> | deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./
> | # Nautilus
> | deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/nautilus ../
> 
> Now I am searching for an suitable galeon package. I am not that
> good in
> building and installing own packages. I tried to build galeon 0.10.5
> (apt-get -b source galeon) from
> 
> | deb-src http://galeon.ufies.org/galeon/ sid/
> 
> But it failed because of an unmet dependencie to for Mozialla 0.8.
> 
> Any suggestions or tips for me?
> 
> Kai.
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Re: Galeon and Mozilla builds

2001-06-07 Thread christophe barbé
You can use my packages by adding the following lines in your sources.list
:

deb ftp://ufies.org/pub/galeon/people/christophe ./
#deb ftp://ufies.org/pub/galeon/people/christophe/cvs-build ./

Comment the second line if you want to use the last galeon release.
You need to remove the kitame entry in your sources.list and to remove the
four mozilla packages by hand (mozilla, mozilla-dev, libnspr4,
libnspr4-dev).

You can still use the nautilus but I believe nautilus packages are now in
the normal tree.

Christophe


On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:11:00 Kai Weber wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using the following Mozilla and Nautilus packages from T.Kitame:
> 
> | # Mozilla
> | deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla ./
> | # Nautilus
> | deb http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/nautilus ../
> 
> Now I am searching for an suitable galeon package. I am not that good in
> building and installing own packages. I tried to build galeon 0.10.5
> (apt-get -b source galeon) from
> 
> | deb-src http://galeon.ufies.org/galeon/ sid/
> 
> But it failed because of an unmet dependencie to for Mozialla 0.8.
> 
> Any suggestions or tips for me?
> 
> Kai.
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