Re: Get display back?
Keep the reply on the list please. On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +1200, Jeff wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Another way to get into the box is to boot the install CD in rescue mode. From the menus, you can get a shell that is chrooted into the box. From there, you can either edit xorg.conf or you may even be able to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Also, there's an option inbetween a normal boot and an init=/bin/sh, that is 's', for single. This will run through the /etc/rcS.d scripts and prompt for the root password. Thanks for that! I booted the single user mode from the Grub Menu and got the command prompt from there. Ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root then changed the driver back to nv and the display is back. So, on to why the nvidia driver isn't working for you. Are you running Etch with stock kernel and have the matching nvidia kernel package, nvidia-xconfig, and nvidia-glx? How did you try to set it up before? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 12:12 +1200, Jeff wrote: I am a new Debian user . Had Etch installed and tried to install the Nvidia driver without success. Now i cannot get the display working when i boot Etch ! Just a blank screen? Can someone tell me how to get the display back from boot up please? Thanks jeff Do you have X installed (xorg)? Do you have an X greeter installed (xdm/kdm/gdm)? If so, looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log should be revealing; check the time stamp of the file to see if it corresponds to your last attempt (vs. being from long ago, which would mean X may not have even tried starting). I have an nVidia card that just doesn't work with the free (nv) driver, but does work with the proprietary (nvidia-glx and others) drivers. This might be the case for you. Also, the proprietary drivers are not available for 2.6.21 kernels (for now), but if you're using etch that shouldn't be an issue. Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Keep the reply on the list please. On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +1200, Jeff wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Another way to get into the box is to boot the install CD in rescue mode. From the menus, you can get a shell that is chrooted into the box. From there, you can either edit xorg.conf or you may even be able to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Also, there's an option inbetween a normal boot and an init=/bin/sh, that is 's', for single. This will run through the /etc/rcS.d scripts and prompt for the root password. Thanks for that! I booted the single user mode from the Grub Menu and got the command prompt from there. Ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root then changed the driver back to nv and the display is back. So, on to why the nvidia driver isn't working for you. Are you running Etch with stock kernel and have the matching nvidia kernel package, nvidia-xconfig, and nvidia-glx? How did you try to set it up before? Doug. I am using kernel 26.18.-4-K7, card is nvidia FX 5200 . I used a step by step guide from a website (which i cant find now) I would need to use an easy better guide. Any suggestions? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
Found a better guide with build-essential /m-a prepare which has worked (i think) as i got the display back when i rebooted X. Is there an easy way to test whether the nvidia driver is working? On 8/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep the reply on the list please. On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +1200, Jeff wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Another way to get into the box is to boot the install CD in rescue mode. From the menus, you can get a shell that is chrooted into the box. From there, you can either edit xorg.conf or you may even be able to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Also, there's an option inbetween a normal boot and an init=/bin/sh, that is 's', for single. This will run through the /etc/rcS.d scripts and prompt for the root password. Thanks for that! I booted the single user mode from the Grub Menu and got the command prompt from there. Ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root then changed the driver back to nv and the display is back. So, on to why the nvidia driver isn't working for you. Are you running Etch with stock kernel and have the matching nvidia kernel package, nvidia-xconfig, and nvidia-glx? How did you try to set it up before? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Whatever it is, I'm against it!
Re: Get display back?
On 06/08/07, Professor Wagstaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found a better guide with build-essential /m-a prepare which has worked (i think) as i got the display back when i rebooted X. Is there an easy way to test whether the nvidia driver is working? You can create a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and modify this to specify nVidia driver. Log in from virt-console 1 (Alt+Ctrl+F1) and do a startx specifying this file to be used. man startx for more details HTH -- Regards, Sudev Barar See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:03:42AM +1200, Jeff wrote: So, on to why the nvidia driver isn't working for you. Are you running Etch with stock kernel and have the matching nvidia kernel package, nvidia-xconfig, and nvidia-glx? How did you try to set it up before? I am using kernel 26.18.-4-K7, card is nvidia FX 5200 . I used a step by step guide from a website (which i cant find now) I would need to use an easy better guide. Any suggestions? I'm assuming Etch then. You don't need a website, you don't need module-assistant. If you downloaded the driver from nvidia and ran their installer, then you have nvidia polution in your filesystem that you'll have to get out somehow (never did it, don't know how, but remember threads here bemoaning it). Then you should have the following packages installed: i linux-image-2.6-k7 always depends on latest kernel for the k7 iA linux-image-2.6.18-4-K7 the latest kernel, which you have installed i nvidia-glx Read its docs to ensure that your card is supported. If not, try the '-legacy' series of glx and kernel modules. i nvidia-kernel-2.6-k7 always depends on latest nvidia module iA nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-4-K7latest nvidia module for the K7 iA nvidia-kernel-common i nvidia-xconfig Now get X working with the free nv driver. cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.nv.works Then update the man-db (as root, run /etc/cron.daily/man-db), apropos nvidia and read all the man pages and all the documentation in /usr/share/doc/nvidia* Get the system so that it boots to command line rather than X. This generally means temporarily disabling the startup of your display manager (gdm or whatever, never used one). You should just have to run nvidia-xconfig. This will alter your xorg.conf file for use of the driver. Note that it does more than change 'nv' to 'nvidia'. cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.nvidia.test1 Test X with startx. You may need to fitz with parameters to nvidia-xconfig. Once its working, if you use a display manager, re-enable it. cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.nvidia.works Good luck, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Get display back?
I am a new Debian user . Had Etch installed and tried to install the Nvidia driver without success. Now i cannot get the display working when i boot Etch ! Just a blank screen? Can someone tell me how to get the display back from boot up please? Thanks jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
Jeff wrote: I am a new Debian user . Had Etch installed and tried to install the Nvidia driver without success. Now i cannot get the display working when i boot Etch ! Just a blank screen? Can someone tell me how to get the display back from boot up please? Try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to Virtual Terminal 1 (VT1); if that works, you can make repairs from there. (I won't go into the repair process; let us know if you can get to this point.) If that doesn't work, does Crlt-Alt-Backspace do anything for you? If neither of those get you to a text-based VT, you'll have to boot into a safer mode; there are several ways to do this, but I'll wait to see if one of the above methods gets you farther along. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
Jeff wrote: Kent West wrote: Jeff wrote: I am a new Debian user . Had Etch installed and tried to install the Nvidia driver without success. Now i cannot get the display working when i boot Etch ! Just a blank screen? Can someone tell me how to get the display back from boot up please? Try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to Virtual Terminal 1 (VT1); if that works, you can make repairs from there. (I won't go into the repair process; let us know if you can get to this point.) If that doesn't work, does Crlt-Alt-Backspace do anything for you? If neither of those get you to a text-based VT, you'll have to boot into a safer mode; there are several ways to do this, but I'll wait to see if one of the above methods gets you farther along. No sadly those two methods did not work. Let me encourage you to keep the responses on-list; this way, others can benefit from the (archived and on-going) conversation, and others who are more knowledgeable than I can toss in their two-cents. I also should have mentioned Ctrl-Alt-plus-or-minus-on-the-numeric-keypad to try and change resolution, but if the first two methods didn't work, that's fairly indicative that the either the video system or the system as a whole is locked up. I don't know anything about getting the proprietary Nvidia stuff going, but we should be able to get you back to SVGA or Debian's non-proprietary nv driver. When you're at the grub prompt (LILO, perhaps, but doubtful), do you have an option for safe or recovery mode, or some-such? If so, choose it; if not, choose the option to change the boot parameters, and add the text init=/bin/bash. Either of these cases will get you to a virtual terminal (assuming you haven't secured your box more than the default; if you have, you'll have to use a boot medium, such as the installation CD or a Knoppix LiveCD). Once into a virtual terminal (the init=/bin/bash option will give you a bare minimum setup), you may have to mount relevant partitions (depending on how you partitioned your drive) so that you can get into the /etc/init.d directory. Once in that directory, you'll need to disable the automatic start-up of X by deactivating gdm or wdm or xdm or kdm (most likely gdm, then second likely kdm). If you see any of these files, edit them (using vi or nano) and add exit 0 as the first non-comment line in the file. Save the file, and restart the computer. (There are other methods for doing the recovery, but this is probably the easiest to explain based on guesses about your setup.) Once you reboot, you should have a normal, non-X environment. Now you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or run dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server (I believe)) and change the line that says something like Driver 'NVidia' to Driver 'nv' or Driver 'svga'. After saving the file, test it with startx. Once X is running again, you can reactive the automatic startup of X if you like by commenting out or removing the exit 0 line(s) you made in /etc/init.d/[xgwk]dm. I know it seems complex, but you can do it. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
Kent West wrote: ... that's fairly indicative that the either the video system or the system as a whole is locked up. If your CAPS lock or Numlock indicator toggles when you press on the corresponding key, that's indicative that the entire system is not locked up; you might can ssh into your box from another box and make your changes without having to do the boot-up hacks I mentioned in the previous email. That would probably be easier. If you can ssh in, you can just manually fix the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file without killing the /etc/init.d/[gxwk]dm script first. (Of course, you could bypass this step anyway and just edit the xorg.conf file in your recovery boot.) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Get display back?
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: ... that's fairly indicative that the either the video system or the system as a whole is locked up. If your CAPS lock or Numlock indicator toggles when you press on the corresponding key, that's indicative that the entire system is not locked up; you might can ssh into your box from another box and make your changes without having to do the boot-up hacks I mentioned in the previous email. That would probably be easier. If you can ssh in, you can just manually fix the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file without killing the /etc/init.d/[gxwk]dm script first. (Of course, you could bypass this step anyway and just edit the xorg.conf file in your recovery boot.) Another way to get into the box is to boot the install CD in rescue mode. From the menus, you can get a shell that is chrooted into the box. From there, you can either edit xorg.conf or you may even be able to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Also, there's an option inbetween a normal boot and an init=/bin/sh, that is 's', for single. This will run through the /etc/rcS.d scripts and prompt for the root password. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
