Getting Started with Debian: Package Selection Sanity

2000-12-29 Thread David Steinberg

Hi everyone,

I've been using Red Hat for a reasonable amount of time, but I'm a total
newbie to Debian; I'm just installing potato for the first time today.

I'm starting to get familiar with the tools, but I must admit that I'm a
little overwhelmed by the number of packages in the distribution.  And
so far, I've only been looking at the one binary CDROM.  :)

Is there a sane approach to initially selecting packages?  Is it best to
use the tasks, or go through the entire list package-by-package?  Would
you start with just the CD and then add the FTP site to sources.list
later, or consider everything all at once?

Acutally, I have a further question about the task packages.  Using
dselect, if I try to purge a package that has been added bacause of a
task, it tells me, of course, that the task package depends on the one I
want to remove.  Should I remove the task?  Will all the other packages
that were installed because of it remain?

Sorry for the newbie questions.  Thanks for any help.

--
David Steinberg
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Re: Getting Started with Debian: Package Selection Sanity

2000-12-29 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:47:48PM -0800, David Steinberg wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've been using Red Hat for a reasonable amount of time, but I'm a total
 newbie to Debian; I'm just installing potato for the first time today.

welcome to our corner of the universe...

 I'm starting to get familiar with the tools, but I must admit that I'm a
 little overwhelmed by the number of packages in the distribution.  And
 so far, I've only been looking at the one binary CDROM.  :)
 
 Is there a sane approach to initially selecting packages?  Is it best to
 use the tasks, or go through the entire list package-by-package?  Would
 you start with just the CD and then add the FTP site to sources.list
 later, or consider everything all at once?

no. yes, probably. no.

:)

actually, the real answer is -- it depends... on you.

if you're familiar with linux in general, you might have a
chance at selecting which packages you'd want by hand, as if
painting with a three-camel-hair brush. if you're looking to get
started quickly even tho lots of excess flotsam is likely to
clutter up your system do the 'tasksel' which is like painting
with a roller. a linux newbie wouldn't have a clue whether she's
interested in pump, libpgperl, mutt or exim.

here's how i did it:

1) install everything.
2) be overwhelmed. drool a lot, but bang your head on a wall, often.
3) reformat, install most everything.
4) get lost again (enjoying every minute of it).
5) subscribe to and scan back issues of debian-user.
6) reformat, install a handful of miniscule gadjets.
7) install that other package i forgot i used all the time.
8) go to step 7 every other day.

 Acutally, I have a further question about the task packages.  Using
 dselect, if I try to purge a package that has been added bacause of a
 task, it tells me, of course, that the task package depends on the one I
 want to remove.  Should I remove the task?  Will all the other packages
 that were installed because of it remain?

usually, from potato (2.2) onward, we lean toward using the

apt-get

gizmo, which is a direct descendant of dselect. to set it
up you'll need

apt-setup

which is in the base-config package, if you don't have it.

apt-get update
apt-get install base-config
apt-setup

if you can't apt-get update yet, then finish up with dselect
until you have apt-setup; then you can use apt to peel packages
from cd, other drives ... or even via http/ftp. mucho coolio.

 Sorry for the newbie questions.  Thanks for any help.

sorry for the newbie answer. hope that helped. :)

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