Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-31 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:35:54 +0100
Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.no wrote:

 On 29. jan. 2015 20:12, Stephen wrote:
  On 01/29/2015 11:08 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
  If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
  with.
 
  Grüße,
  Sven.
 
  Hmm, that is scary. I don't want to break anything. I am quite 
  adventurous but I can handle not playing VV until Jessie releases 
  if that is the case.
 
 
 
 How would lxc be in this use-case? Specifically how would a container 
 access a graphics display ?

1) Running VV via 'ssh -X'. Straightforward, and requires doing
something else with the sound.

2) Running a VNC server inside the container. Unsuitable for games
IMO, but straightforward.

3) Running a separate X server inside the container. Requires allowing
the container to use at least /dev/input/*, /dev/dri/*, and, of
course, a tty (see [1] as an example). Leaves the sound question open
too.

[1] http://mraw.org/blog/2011/04/05/Running_X_from_LXC

Reco


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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-31 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 1/29/15, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/29/2015 02:08 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
 Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wouldn't mind building it by hand, I'm trying to get more 'hands on'
 (pun completely intended) with Debian. I am just a novice user though
 so I have a very faint clue what your talking about...

 If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
 with.

 Jessie is completely stable, according to my experience. You will be
 better off just doing a fresh install, after backing up personal files.


I was thinking the exact same thing, that Jessie has proved stable
*for me*. That's a disclaimer intended to mean everyone's own
experience can and will vary.. Jessie's in fact *so stable* for me,
I'm actually bored. I debootstrapped Sid couple hours ago and am
just running through my inbox before attempting to set Sid up tonight.

After years of doing these kinds of things every possible way wrong,
my most likely path now in a situation like this would be to go the
route of installing the whole new newer release (upgrade) if that is
the only place the desired package is found. With installing a whole
new unified release, everything is intended to work together rather
than, for example, us users trying to shove one of Jessie's new square
pegs into a potentially non-existent old round hole in Wheezy.

And I would be doing the above *KNOWING* Jessie is still labeled as
*testing* which means not guaranteed stable even though many of us are
finding it works well right now.

Good luck whichever route you go!

Cindy :)

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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-31 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

On 29. jan. 2015 20:12, Stephen wrote:

On 01/29/2015 11:08 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
with.

Grüße,
Sven.

Hmm, that is scary. I don't want to break anything. I am quite 
adventurous but I can handle not playing VV until Jessie releases 
if that is the case.





How would lxc be in this use-case? Specifically how would a container 
access a graphics display ?


Generally containers would be a great relief to have when playing with 
unsafe s^H computing :-) .




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Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Stephen
I'm trying to run the game VV on my system but whenever I try and 
launch it I get the following error: ./x86/vv.x86: 
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found 
(required by ./x86/libSDL2-2.0.so.0)


I tried looking for glibc 2.15 in the software repository but could find 
no such package. How do I satisfy this dependency then?


-many thanks, Stephen


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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to run the game VV on my system but whenever I try and
 launch it I get the following error: ./x86/vv.x86:
 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not
 found (required by ./x86/libSDL2-2.0.so.0)

 I tried looking for glibc 2.15 in the software repository but could
 find no such package. How do I satisfy this dependency then?

You need at least Debian Jessie/Testing für a glibc new enough.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
On 01/29/2015 07:31 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
 Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm trying to run the game VV on my system but whenever I try and
 launch it I get the following error: ./x86/vv.x86:
 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not
 found (required by ./x86/libSDL2-2.0.so.0)
 
 I tried looking for glibc 2.15 in the software repository but could
 find no such package. How do I satisfy this dependency then?
 
 You need at least Debian Jessie/Testing für a glibc new enough.
 
 Grüße,
 Sven.
 

Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc.

Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you may do something tricky:
extracting the Jessie package by hand in, again, an isolated prefix. But
i'm not that sure it would work.



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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Stephen

On 01/29/2015 11:08 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
with.

Grüße,
Sven.

Hmm, that is scary. I don't want to break anything. I am quite 
adventurous but I can handle not playing VV until Jessie releases if 
that is the case.



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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Stephen


On 01/29/2015 10:46 AM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote:
Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc.


Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you may do something tricky: 
extracting the Jessie package by hand in, again, an isolated prefix. 
But i'm not that sure it would work.


I wouldn't mind building it by hand, I'm trying to get more 'hands on' 
(pun completely intended) with Debian. I am just a novice user though so 
I have a very faint clue what your talking about...



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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
On 01/29/2015 07:59 PM, Stephen wrote:
 
 On 01/29/2015 10:46 AM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote:
 Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc.
 
 Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you may do something tricky:
 extracting the Jessie package by hand in, again, an isolated prefix.
 But i'm not that sure it would work.
 
 I wouldn't mind building it by hand, I'm trying to get more 'hands on'
 (pun completely intended) with Debian. I am just a novice user though so
 I have a very faint clue what your talking about...

I understand.

Well, you don't have much choices. Force-install a newer glibc in the
base system will break your entire system, so here are the options:

 * install another version of Debian containing the required glibc version

 * install another distro if you don't want to use unstable softwares.
if you want to stay on a debian-like and are a novice, can I suggest you
Ubuntu or LinuxMint?

 * build your glibc by hand (see LFS pages[0], they can be helpful) but
install files (not configuration) in, say, /opt/glibc-version. Then to
use you'll need to play with some environment variables. At least you
know how to run a program from command line, so env variables are just
the next step :-)

 * download the newer, packaged, version of glibc from unstable or
testing Debian, extract it by hand and put files in a prefix, like
before. Then use env vars an pray for it to work.



[0]
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter06/glibc.html



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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/29/2015 10:46 AM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote:

 Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc.

 Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you may do something
 tricky: extracting the Jessie package by hand in, again, an isolated
 prefix.  But i'm not that sure it would work.

 I wouldn't mind building it by hand, I'm trying to get more 'hands on'
 (pun completely intended) with Debian. I am just a novice user though
 so I have a very faint clue what your talking about...

If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
with.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Sven Hartge
Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/29/2015 11:08 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

 If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to
 mess with.

 Hmm, that is scary. I don't want to break anything. I am quite
 adventurous but I can handle not playing VV until Jessie releases
 if that is the case.

The glibc (or libc6) is _the_ central system library. Mess with it and
you summon the sixth circle of hell right to your room :)

Doing things with the glibc while inexperienced results nearly always in
a reinstall of your system.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Ric Moore

On 01/29/2015 02:08 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:

Stephen skaldicpo...@gmail.com wrote:

On 01/29/2015 10:46 AM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote:



Or a custom glibc installed in an isolated prefix, then playing with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load the new glibc.



Or if you don't want to build it by hand, you may do something
tricky: extracting the Jessie package by hand in, again, an isolated
prefix.  But i'm not that sure it would work.



I wouldn't mind building it by hand, I'm trying to get more 'hands on'
(pun completely intended) with Debian. I am just a novice user though
so I have a very faint clue what your talking about...


If you are a novice user, the glibc is the _last_ thing you want to mess
with.


Jessie is completely stable, according to my experience. You will be 
better off just doing a fresh install, after backing up personal files. 
:) Ric




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Re: Glibc 2.15 not found?

2015-01-29 Thread Siard
Stephen wrote:
 I don't want to break anything. I am quite adventurous but I can
 handle not playing VV until Jessie releases

I just tried the Windows demo with this command:

$ wine ./vv_demo.exe

No need to install anything, it seems to run fine.
So, until Jessie releases, running vv.exe with wine could be an
option.


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