Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 09:46 +0530, H S Rai wrote:
> What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has 
> been created using apt-get for unstable and experimental 
> vesrsion?

Thar be fierce fire breathing Dragons in that direction!


But you can do it, if and only if you know your way around Debian very
well. I will tell you right now, I have done it, unless some
unbelievably huge reason comes along forcing me to back-rev everything
and still have a workable machine, I will not do it again.
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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 09:51:42AM -0400, Rich Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:53 AM, Dave Ewart wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday, 15.07.2006 at 01:00 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >>
> >>That is not exactly supported.  Especially since there are *huge*
> >>differences between stable and unstable.  Gnome has been upgraded  
> >>twice,
> >>XFree86 was replaced by X.org.  Those two alone would be enough to  
> >>scare
> >>me off.  Your best bet is to reinstall.  If you kept /home on a
> >>sepearate partition from the beginning, this should be relatively
> >>trivial to accomplish without losing many settings.
> >
> >I'd second this advice.  Re-install, don't even *try* to downgrade...
> 
> I agree as well.
> 
> Though it has been possible in the past, at the current time that  
> ''not exactly supported'' is at best a rather gracious euphemism.
> I tried to go from testing->stable the other day with disastrous  
> results.   Things really got wedged when apt-get/dpkg objected to  
> removing some files shared by debian-utils and some other package  
> whose name escapes me.
> 
> I gave up and reinstalled from scratch. 

That's gotta be the best way to do it. Otherwise I think you'd want to
basically purge everything but the most basic install, then downgrade,
then reinstall everything that you purged. might as well reinstall
from scratch. Though, I think it would be fun to try ;)

A



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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-15 Thread Rich Johnson


On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Arafangion wrote:


H S Rai wrote:
What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has been  
created

using apt-get for unstable and experimental vesrsion?


With assistance from dpkg --get-selections > selections && vim
selections && dpkg --set-selections < selections; I would reinstall
debian entirely.


Does this work across dists where the package set changes?

For example testing -> xorg but stable -> xfree86. 
 



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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

H S Rai wrote:
What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has been created 
using apt-get for unstable and experimental vesrsion?




Reinstall. Start on an install script that keeps a record of what you 
usually install, because there is a huge difference between what you see 
in dpkg -l and what you actually apt-get install. Always keep backup 
partitions that you can fall back upon if needed.



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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-15 Thread Arafangion
H S Rai wrote:
> What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has been created
> using apt-get for unstable and experimental vesrsion?
>
With assistance from dpkg --get-selections > selections && vim
selections && dpkg --set-selections < selections; I would reinstall
debian entirely.


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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-15 Thread Rich Johnson


On Jul 15, 2006, at 5:53 AM, Dave Ewart wrote:


On Saturday, 15.07.2006 at 01:00 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


That is not exactly supported.  Especially since there are *huge*
differences between stable and unstable.  Gnome has been upgraded  
twice,
XFree86 was replaced by X.org.  Those two alone would be enough to  
scare

me off.  Your best bet is to reinstall.  If you kept /home on a
sepearate partition from the beginning, this should be relatively
trivial to accomplish without losing many settings.


I'd second this advice.  Re-install, don't even *try* to downgrade...


I agree as well.

Though it has been possible in the past, at the current time that  
''not exactly supported'' is at best a rather gracious euphemism.
I tried to go from testing->stable the other day with disastrous  
results.   Things really got wedged when apt-get/dpkg objected to  
removing some files shared by debian-utils and some other package  
whose name escapes me.


I gave up and reinstalled from scratch. 
  



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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-15 Thread Dave Ewart
On Saturday, 15.07.2006 at 01:00 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> H S Rai wrote:
> > What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has been created
> > using apt-get for unstable and experimental vesrsion?
> > 
> 
> That is not exactly supported.  Especially since there are *huge*
> differences between stable and unstable.  Gnome has been upgraded twice,
> XFree86 was replaced by X.org.  Those two alone would be enough to scare
> me off.  Your best bet is to reinstall.  If you kept /home on a
> sepearate partition from the beginning, this should be relatively
> trivial to accomplish without losing many settings.

I'd second this advice.  Re-install, don't even *try* to downgrade...

Dave.
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Re: Going back to stable

2006-07-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
H S Rai wrote:
> What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has been created
> using apt-get for unstable and experimental vesrsion?
> 

That is not exactly supported.  Especially since there are *huge*
differences between stable and unstable.  Gnome has been upgraded twice,
XFree86 was replaced by X.org.  Those two alone would be enough to scare
me off.  Your best bet is to reinstall.  If you kept /home on a
sepearate partition from the beginning, this should be relatively
trivial to accomplish without losing many settings.

-Roberto

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Going back to stable

2006-07-14 Thread H S Rai
What is the way to go back to stable version, if mess has 
been created using apt-get for unstable and experimental 
vesrsion?


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