Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Le 23/04/2021 à 21:07, Yvan Masson a écrit : Le 23/04/2021 à 20:18, didier gaumet a écrit : 1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config file to setup the shutdown to false - write/enable/start your custom systemd service that runs /usr/bin/unattented-upgrade only after shutdown has been asked and the lightdm systemd service has been stopped It might work, but I have doubt about my ability to do this properly to get reliable updates… I am sure this has already worked for me (in previous Debian or Ubuntu, can't remember), certainly with a very similar configuration. I have just compared the contents of the package from Ubuntu but could not find any notable difference. I will submit a bug report so that appropriate people are aware of this. Done here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=987431 2) unattended-upgrades notifications while Plymouth is running: I do not read Python but trying to understand this python script, I have the impression that Plymouth does notify the user that unattended-upgrédes is running You are right, I should have clarify this in my previous answer: I have already seen this working (as I said i can't remember if it was in a previous Debian or Ubuntu). Good luck ;-) Thanks! OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Le 23/04/2021 à 20:18, didier gaumet a écrit : 1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config file to setup the shutdown to false - write/enable/start your custom systemd service that runs /usr/bin/unattented-upgrade only after shutdown has been asked and the lightdm systemd service has been stopped It might work, but I have doubt about my ability to do this properly to get reliable updates… I am sure this has already worked for me (in previous Debian or Ubuntu, can't remember), certainly with a very similar configuration. I have just compared the contents of the package from Ubuntu but could not find any notable difference. I will submit a bug report so that appropriate people are aware of this. 2) unattended-upgrades notifications while Plymouth is running: I do not read Python but trying to understand this python script, I have the impression that Plymouth does notify the user that unattended-upgrédes is running You are right, I should have clarify this in my previous answer: I have already seen this working (as I said i can't remember if it was in a previous Debian or Ubuntu). Good luck ;-) Thanks! OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
1) Unattended-upgrade at shutdown and after Lightdm is stopped: Perhaps a solution would be to : - stop and disable the unattended-upgrade systemd service - edit the unattended-upgrades config file to setup the shutdown to false - write/enable/start your custom systemd service that runs /usr/bin/unattented-upgrade only after shutdown has been asked and the lightdm systemd service has been stopped 2) unattended-upgrades notifications while Plymouth is running: I do not read Python but trying to understand this python script, I have the impression that Plymouth does notify the user that unattended-upgrédes is running Good luck ;-)
Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Le 23/04/2021 à 12:14, didier gaumet a écrit : Le 23/04/2021 à 11:59, didier gaumet a écrit : I should check what I wrote before posting :-( [...] Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest "what" [...] As for Plymouth notifying about ugrades during shutdown, if it is not already the case (when unattended-upgrades the A bit is missing there (cut/past and absent-minded poster): ..." systemd service is started after the LightDM systemd service is stopped), it is perhaps possible to modify the "... unattended-upgrades.service systemd service to script Plymouth, or more simply, setup Plymouth to be more informative http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/09/project-plymouth.html Thanks Didier for your answer, it looked promising. Unfortunately I suppose it is not the way to go: unattended-upgrades.service starts `/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown` at boot, which waits for "a signal". (I suppose from reading the code that it listen on dbus something related to systemd-logind, but my skills prevent me from going further). Anyway, in my case it starts properly, but it just prevents the session/LightDM from stopping. If no other idea, I suppose I should submit a bug report? Regards, Yvan OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Le 23/04/2021 à 11:59, didier gaumet a écrit : I should check what I wrote before posting :-( [...] Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest "what" [...] As for Plymouth notifying about ugrades during shutdown, if it is not already the case (when unattended-upgrades the A bit is missing there (cut/past and absent-minded poster): ..." systemd service is started after the LightDM systemd service is stopped), it is perhaps possible to modify the "... unattended-upgrades.service systemd service to script Plymouth, or more simply, setup Plymouth to be more informative http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/09/project-plymouth.html
Re: Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Le 23/04/2021 à 09:48, Yvan Masson a écrit : [...] I would expect the session to be completely closed, LightDM stopped, and the console or Plymouth displaying a message indicating the ongoing updates. [...] Hello, Disclaimer: I have never experimented myself whait I suggest Perhaps adapting the unattended-upgrades.service systemd service by declaring that the lightdm service is to be stopped before this service is started would do. As for Plymouth notifying about ugrades during shutdown, if it is not already the case (when unattended-upgrades the unattended-upgrades.service systemd service to script Plymouth, or more simply, setup Plymouth to be more informative http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/09/project-plymouth.html
Graphical session does not close until unattended-upgrades has applied all updates
Hi list,
I am preparing some Debian 11 desktops for a school (for when it will be
the new stable). The setup is very simple: no root account, one
partition, tasks desktop/Cinnamon/SSH. Unattended-upgrades is configured
to install updates on shutdown (see 1): upgrading works properly, but is
very disturbing for the users:
When the user chooses to shutdown or reboot the computer from his
Cinnamon session, the session does not close until all updates are
applied. While waiting:
- icons on the desktop disappear
- the usual menu that allows choosing between
suspend/hibernate/reboot/cancel/shutdown won't appear again (see 2)
- it is still possible to start applications
When a user session has been opened, then closed, and the user clicks on
shutdown or reboot from LightDM, the behavior is similar: LightDM does
not stop. It is even possible to log in again, while unattended-upgrades
is applying updates, but when updates are applied the computer
shutdowns/reboots as requested originally from LightDM.
I would expect the session to be completely closed, LightDM stopped, and
the console or Plymouth displaying a message indicating the ongoing
updates. I am almost sure this works like this on Ubuntu, with the same
setup from me. Where should I look to solve this? Should I report a bug,
and on which package?
Regards,
Yvan
1. Here are the files I create to configure unattended-upgrades:
$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/21periodic
APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";
APT::Periodic::CleanInterval "1";
$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/51unattended-upgrades-local
Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern {
"origin=Debian,codename=bullseye,label=Debian";
"origin=Debian,codename=bullseye,label=Debian-Security";
"origin=Debian,codename=bullseye-updates,label=Debian";
};
Unattended-Upgrade::Mail "root";
nattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown "true";
Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Kernel-Packages "false";
$ cat /etc/systemd/logind.conf.d/unattended-upgrades.conf
[Login]
# 30 minutes delay
InhibitDelayMaxSec=1800
2. This matches the following error in ~/.xsession-errors:
Cjs-message: 09:26:35.004: JS LOG: Ignored exception from dbus method:
GIO.IOErrorEnum: GDBus:Error:org.gnome.SessionManager.NotInRunning:
Shutdown interface is only available during the Running phase
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