Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Frank McCormick

Each upgrade it seems there are a growing number of packages
being held back by apt-get.
It started off as a few packages a few weeks ago and now is
23:


Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  cups-filters gir1.2-pango-1.0 libcdr-0.0-0 libdee-1.0-4 libgegl-0.2-0 
libharfbuzz-dev

  libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0
  libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common libmspub-0.0-0 
libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-0
  libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 
libpangoxft-1.0-0 libtiff4

  libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
root@frank-debian:/home/frank#


How can I find out what is holding these packages ?

Thanks


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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:12:31 -0500
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 How can I find out what is holding these packages ?

Have you tried to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

Reco


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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Frank McCormick

On 10/12/13 11:10 AM, Reco wrote:

  Hi.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:12:31 -0500
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:


How can I find out what is holding these packages ?


Have you tried to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?

Reco




Well that solves most of the problem...but 2 are still
being held

root@frank-debian:/home/frank# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libtiffxx0c2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  foomatic-filters libharfbuzz0a
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libamd2.3.1 libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcholmod2.1.2 libcolamd2.8.0
  libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz0b libicu52 liblzma-dev libtiff5-dev 
libtiffxx5

  libumfpack5.6.2
The following packages have been kept back:
  libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  cups-filters gir1.2-pango-1.0 libcdr-0.0-0 libdee-1.0-4 libgegl-0.2-0 
libharfbuzz-dev
  libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 
libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libmspub-0.0-0
  libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 
libpangoft2-1.0-0

  libpangoxft-1.0-0 libtiff4 libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
  libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
21 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 2 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 29.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 30.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Anyway to find out what's holding them ?

Thanks



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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Reco
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:22:37 -0500
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 On 10/12/13 11:10 AM, Reco wrote:
 
 Well that solves most of the problem...but 2 are still
 being held
 
 root@frank-debian:/home/frank# apt-get dist-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
libtiffxx0c2
 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
foomatic-filters libharfbuzz0a
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
libamd2.3.1 libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcholmod2.1.2 libcolamd2.8.0
libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz0b libicu52 liblzma-dev libtiff5-dev 
 libtiffxx5
libumfpack5.6.2
 The following packages have been kept back:
libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common
 The following packages will be upgraded:
cups-filters gir1.2-pango-1.0 libcdr-0.0-0 libdee-1.0-4 libgegl-0.2-0 
 libharfbuzz-dev
libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 
 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libmspub-0.0-0
libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 
 libpangoft2-1.0-0
libpangoxft-1.0-0 libtiff4 libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
 21 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 2 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
 Need to get 29.1 MB of archives.
 After this operation, 30.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
 
 Anyway to find out what's holding them ?

Try it like this:

apt-get install libmateweather-common=1.6.2-1 libmatewnck-common=1.6.2-1

That should not upgrade these packages, but it should show why apt
refuses to do anything about them.

Reco


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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Frank Miles
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:20:01 +0100, Frank McCormick wrote:

 Each upgrade it seems there are a growing number of packages
 being held back by apt-get.
 It started off as a few packages a few weeks ago and now is
 23:
 
 
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
cups-filters gir1.2-pango-1.0 libcdr-0.0-0 libdee-1.0-4 libgegl-0.2-0 
 libharfbuzz-dev
libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0
libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common libmspub-0.0-0 
 libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-0
libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 
 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libtiff4
libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
 root@frank-debian:/home/frank#
 
 
 How can I find out what is holding these packages ?
 
 Thanks

Don't know if this will answer your question... if you search for
a particular package on the Debian web site, then select Developer
Information (PTS) on the right side, there's generally information
on package status.

  HTH-
   Frank


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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:30:01 +0100
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:

 The following packages have been kept back:
libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common

MATE is slowly transitioning from the MATE repository to Debian.
Give it a few days and they will all be upgraded. I think it's just
about version numbering, more than updates proper.


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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Frank McCormick

On 10/12/13 11:29 AM, Reco wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:22:37 -0500
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote:


On 10/12/13 11:10 AM, Reco wrote:

Well that solves most of the problem...but 2 are still
being held

root@frank-debian:/home/frank# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
libtiffxx0c2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
foomatic-filters libharfbuzz0a
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libamd2.3.1 libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcholmod2.1.2 libcolamd2.8.0
libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz0b libicu52 liblzma-dev libtiff5-dev
libtiffxx5
libumfpack5.6.2
The following packages have been kept back:
libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
cups-filters gir1.2-pango-1.0 libcdr-0.0-0 libdee-1.0-4 libgegl-0.2-0
libharfbuzz-dev
libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0
libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libmspub-0.0-0
libpango-1.0-0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0
libpangoft2-1.0-0
libpangoxft-1.0-0 libtiff4 libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
libwebkitgtk-3.0-0
21 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 2 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 29.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 30.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Anyway to find out what's holding them ?


Try it like this:

apt-get install libmateweather-common=1.6.2-1 libmatewnck-common=1.6.2-1

That should not upgrade these packages, but it should show why apt
refuses to do anything about them.



  apt-get says it can't find them.

  Trying to install the original packages:

root@frank-debian:/home/frank# apt-get install libmateweather-common 
libmatewnck-common

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:
  apache2.2-bin caja caja-common dmz-cursor-theme engrampa 
engrampa-common eom eom-common
  ffmpegthumbnailer gir1.2-mate-panel gstreamer0.10-alsa 
gtk2-engines-murrine hddtemp
  indicator-messages indicator-messages-gtk2 
indicator-status-provider-mc5 libdbusmenu-glib4

  libdbusmenu-gtk3-4 libdbusmenu-gtk4 libffmpegthumbnailer4 libindicate5
  libindicator-messages-status-provider1 libindicator3-7 libindicator7 
libmatebluetooth
  libmatekbd-common libmatekbd4 libmatepanelapplet libmatepolkit 
libmatesensorsappletplugin
  liboobs-1-5 libopts25 mate-applets-common mate-backgrounds 
mate-bluetooth mate-calc
  mate-control-center mate-desktop mate-desktop-common mate-media 
mate-media-common
  mate-media-gstreamer mate-menus mate-netspeed mate-panel-common 
mate-polkit mate-power-manager
  mate-power-manager-common mate-screensaver-common mate-sensors-applet 
mate-settings-daemon
  mate-settings-daemon-common mate-settings-daemon-gstreamer 
mate-system-tools mate-themes
  mate-user-share mate-utils mate-utils-common mozo murrine-themes ntp 
pluma pluma-common
  python-gst0.10 python-gtksourceview2 python-mate-menu 
system-tools-backends

Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libmateweather libmatewnck mate-applets mate-core 
mate-desktop-environment
  mate-desktop-environment-extra mate-indicator-applet 
mate-notification-daemon mate-panel

  mate-screensaver mate-session-manager mate-system-monitor
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 12 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 14.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 13.9 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n


 Basically it wants to remove all of Mate :)

Another user..Jack Malmostoso says

MATE is slowly transitioning from the MATE repository to Debian.
Give it a few days and they will all be upgraded. I think it's just
about version numbering, more than updates proper.


We'll see.

Thanks all




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