Re: Hot to be a Guru

2003-12-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:05:46PM +, Brendan Sleight wrote:
> * Try kernel hacking, Linux from Scratch ?

If you are a programmer I'd recommend having a look at this. There's a
fantastic book 'linux device drivers' that I'd recommend buying if you
find that you like this stuff, also available online at 
http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/

Not sure how helpful it would be at de-newbiefying you but its fun :-)

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Re: Hot to be a Guru

2003-11-30 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El sábado, 29 de noviembre de 2003, a las 22:05, Brendan Sleight escribió:
> I would be interested in how other people have made
> the step passed newbie.

Socrates never did.

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Re: Hot to be a Guru

2003-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:05:46PM +, Brendan Sleight wrote:
> I would be interested in how other people have made
> the step passed newbie.

Well, about half the people here aren't newbies, but are here to help
or to learn from others.  Just keep your eyes peeled and you'll start
getting an idea of who to follow.

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Re: Hot to be a Guru

2003-11-29 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:05:46 +, Brendan Sleight wrote:

> I think I am now past the newbie stage of a GNU/Linux
> ? Debian user.  
> 
> I have been using a debian derivative Morphix
> (http://morphix.sourceforge.net/), I have made a few
> mini-mods, written some scripts and even used Linux in
> a rack at work.  I can hack a few C, C++ programs and
> knock out some bash and perl scripts. These days I
> pick up my very thumbed Unix beginners book less and
> less. 
> 
> So what now, how do I make the step of next from being
> a newbie to working towards Guru level. 
> * More, thicker, smaller font, expensive books.
> * Outline tutorials
> * Try kernel hacking, Linux from Scratch ?
> * Just keep using/hacking it, you will learn whats so
> much fun about ssh...
> * Get work to pay for some courses, (Hotels included,
> but no mini-bar, just foo-bar.)
> 
> I would be interested in how other people have made
> the step passed newbie.
> 
> Nearest similar post:-
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg04174.html
> 
> Regards,
> Brendan - A-Want-to-be Guru - Sleight
> 

Decide which area you want to tackle first, and then you can plan a path. 
Experience is the best teacher.

For instance, if you want to learn about filesystems and drivers, read up
on, say, ext2.  Then design a filesystem of your own, write the supporting
code and make it work.

If you want to learn about NNTP, write a text-based news client.

Write a web spider from scratch.

Write a partition resizer that's better than parted (testing this could be
dangerous, of course!)

Write a program which can identify the file system type of an unmounted
partition.

Write a file compression program that compresses better than gzip and runs
faster than bzip2.

That's enough to keep you busy for a couple of years :)


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Hot to be a Guru

2003-11-29 Thread Brendan Sleight
I think I am now past the newbie stage of a GNU/Linux
? Debian user.  

I have been using a debian derivative Morphix
(http://morphix.sourceforge.net/), I have made a few
mini-mods, written some scripts and even used Linux in
a rack at work.  I can hack a few C, C++ programs and
knock out some bash and perl scripts. These days I
pick up my very thumbed Unix beginners book less and
less. 

So what now, how do I make the step of next from being
a newbie to working towards Guru level. 
* More, thicker, smaller font, expensive books.
* Outline tutorials
* Try kernel hacking, Linux from Scratch ?
* Just keep using/hacking it, you will learn whats so
much fun about ssh...
* Get work to pay for some courses, (Hotels included,
but no mini-bar, just foo-bar.)

I would be interested in how other people have made
the step passed newbie.

Nearest similar post:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200106/msg04174.html

Regards,
Brendan - A-Want-to-be Guru - Sleight


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