Re: Household proxy
Oh, wow... how can you increase throughput on a modem by increasing the services that put demands on it? Nils Rennebarth wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 01:20:38AM -0600, Jay D. Winks wrote: > > O.K. So we've got 3-1/2 for IPMasq and 1-1/2 for squid > To save bandwidth on the dialup link I suggest to use both. They do > not conflict. To make it even more tranparent for the users, you > should consider trans-proxy too. > > Nils > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Household proxy
On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 01:20:38AM -0600, Jay D. Winks wrote: > O.K. So we've got 3-1/2 for IPMasq and 1-1/2 for squid To save bandwidth on the dialup link I suggest to use both. They do not conflict. To make it even more tranparent for the users, you should consider trans-proxy too. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L> Linus Torvalds, W> Winfried Truemper | | L>this is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | W>Umh, oh. What do you mean by "special easter release"?. Will it quit | * W>working today and rise on easter? * pgpL0jhIeNjww.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Household proxy
G'day >This is probably a dumb question, but exactly what is proxy, how does it >differ from IP masquerading and why would one use it instead of IP masq? Nah, no such thing as a dumb question! That's why the list is here :) Basically, with the growth of the internet, getting more than 1 IP address is getting particularly difficult (they're almost impossible to get in Australia). So most ppl use IP addresses on their local network that can't be routed onto the net, like the 10.0.0.0 subnet. So, as these can't be routed onto the net, none of the machines on your LAN can access the net, only your gateway (your machine with the modem) can. To get around this you can do thwo things... 1. Install a proxy server. A proxy server caches content. Basically netscape on any computer on the LAN can talk to the gateway computer, and the gateway computer can talk to the net. So Netscape asks the proxy for a file, and the proxy goes out and gets it, then gives it to netscape... Everything you do must be done thru the proxy. This is inconvienent because a lot of things don't work well with proxy servers. 2. Use IP Masquerading. IP masq is, like the proxy, installed on the gateway computer. Unlike the proxy tho, it allows all the machines on the LAN to access the net without a proxy, as if they were directly connected. It does this by looking at all the IP packets that go thru, and remembering who asked for what, and making sure it gets delivered back to the right place when it gets back. Hope some of that made sense... You can use both if you like, as a proxy tends to work well with web browsers. IP Masq tends to be more transparent, but is conceptually a little more different to understand, so a lot of ppl tend to get discouraged. In reality, everything is safely hidden from the end user, and it's pretty easy to get working... Hope that went some of the way towards explaining it... damon Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web Page: www.sub.net.au/~tr It's not a sense of humor. It's ICQ UIN:2920281 a sense of irony disguised as one. PGP Key ID: 0x232C09E1 - Bruce Sterling -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Household proxy
O.K. So we've got 3-1/2 for IPMasq and 1-1/2 for squid, or something to that effect . I checked out the associated URL. Looks good. Thanks for helping a new guy get into the FreeOS thing. Hey, FreeOS -- rhymes with BeOS -- hmmm ;) Jay D. Winks -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Household proxy
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Florian Attenberger wrote: > Jay D. Winks wrote: > > > > I have researched a few different distributions and found Debian to be > > the best-documented of the group, and that's important to me. My mates > > and I seek only to inplement a household proxy for concurrent connection > > to the 'Net at the moment, but we will doubtless want to do more in the > > future. Does anyone know a good way under Debian to set up a proxy that > > 2 windogs clients and a macinslosh client can share locally? Please > > reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Try the squid package. This is IMO the most widely used proxy. > On my System it works fine. This is probably a dumb question, but exactly what is proxy, how does it differ from IP masquerading and why would one use it instead of IP masq? Bob --- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen/ -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Household proxy
G'day, >I have researched a few different distributions and found Debian to be >the best-documented of the group, and that's important to me. My mates >and I seek only to inplement a household proxy for concurrent connection >to the 'Net at the moment, but we will doubtless want to do more in the >future. Does anyone know a good way under Debian to set up a proxy that >2 windogs clients and a macinslosh client can share locally? Please >reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have found the easiest way to do this is to use IP masquerading, and use a non-internet subnet (I tend to like 10.0.0.0). Set up your linux box with the modem, assign it an IP something like 10.0.0.1 and set up IP masq, then use it as a gateway for the rest of you windoze machine... I wont go into detail here how to do it, but the IP Masq (mini-)HOWTO is very easy to follow... I had it up and running in about 30 mins (not including recompiling IP Masq support into the kernel Alternatively you could use a proxy server like squid, but IMHO IP Masq is much sexier, and lets you do a lot more stuff over your network... Hope that helps, damon Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web Page: www.sub.net.au/~tr It's not a sense of humor. It's ICQ UIN:2920281 a sense of irony disguised as one. PGP Key ID: 0x232C09E1 - Bruce Sterling -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Household proxy
Jay D. Winks wrote: > > I have researched a few different distributions and found Debian to be > the best-documented of the group, and that's important to me. My mates > and I seek only to inplement a household proxy for concurrent connection > to the 'Net at the moment, but we will doubtless want to do more in the > future. Does anyone know a good way under Debian to set up a proxy that > 2 windogs clients and a macinslosh client can share locally? Please > reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Try the squid package. This is IMO the most widely used proxy. On my System it works fine. cu flo -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Household proxy
I have researched a few different distributions and found Debian to be the best-documented of the group, and that's important to me. My mates and I seek only to inplement a household proxy for concurrent connection to the 'Net at the moment, but we will doubtless want to do more in the future. Does anyone know a good way under Debian to set up a proxy that 2 windogs clients and a macinslosh client can share locally? Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
