Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Wathen, Metherion said:
> i did some digging around the debian site and found what youre talking about
> - jidgo. i'll give it a shot after the holiday, however i'd like to know
> what is a .raw file and what do you do with it after downloading it? --how
> do you make it into a cd, is my question?
> 
> thanks in advance,
> Happy holidays everyone,
> mw.
Rename it to .iso - they're the same thing.
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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Levi Waldron
On November 27, 2002 09:32 am, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> hey thanks that's a good idea,
> im planning on upgrading soon anyway,
> other than the install discs (7 for woody), you say that the other software
> is available as a downloadable iso or something?

No jigdo iso, just download the program directly - it's small.  It's ported 
to linux and windows.  Check the download section of debian.org.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Wathen, Metherion
i did some digging around the debian site and found what youre talking about
- jidgo. i'll give it a shot after the holiday, however i'd like to know
what is a .raw file and what do you do with it after downloading it? --how
do you make it into a cd, is my question?

thanks in advance,
Happy holidays everyone,
mw.

-Original Message-
From: Levi Waldron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:17 PM
To: Wathen, Metherion
Subject: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?


On November 27, 2002 09:32 am, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> hey thanks that's a good idea,
> im planning on upgrading soon anyway,
> other than the install discs (7 for woody), you say that the other
software
> is available as a downloadable iso or something?

No jigdo iso, just download the program directly - it's small.  It's ported 
to linux and windows.  Check the download section of debian.org.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, 

Am 14:53 2002-11-26 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
>
>Thanks,
>What kind of info goes into a Packages.gz file (hate to be such a
newbie but
>I'm transferring from the windows world).
>I looked at 'man apt-cdrom' and got really confused so any help you can
>offer is appreciated.

You need dpkg-scanpackages (already installes with the Base). 
Please read the manpage for the exactly Syntax.

>thanks,
>mw.

Michelle


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Wathen, Metherion
hey thanks that's a good idea,
im planning on upgrading soon anyway,
other than the install discs (7 for woody), you say that the other software
is available as a downloadable iso or something?

thanks,
mw.

-Original Message-
From: Levi Waldron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:25 AM
To: Wathen, Metherion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?


On November 27, 2002 09:02 am, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi,
> well, i have real fast internet connection from work, so its easier to
> download there than at home.
> what i really need to do is get a laptop and install debian on it and then
> tie into the connection at work and ...
> (maybe one day)
>
> thanks for your help i going to make sure i have alien installed, that is
> one cool proggy!
> mw

You could download some Debian installation discs from work, then have all 
the packages and dependencies and be able to add each entire disc in one
fell 
swoop with "apt-cdrom add"  Check the jigdo program from debian.org for the 
downloading.


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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Levi Waldron
On November 27, 2002 09:02 am, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi,
> well, i have real fast internet connection from work, so its easier to
> download there than at home.
> what i really need to do is get a laptop and install debian on it and then
> tie into the connection at work and ...
> (maybe one day)
>
> thanks for your help i going to make sure i have alien installed, that is
> one cool proggy!
> mw

You could download some Debian installation discs from work, then have all 
the packages and dependencies and be able to add each entire disc in one fell 
swoop with "apt-cdrom add"  Check the jigdo program from debian.org for the 
downloading.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Hi,
well, i have real fast internet connection from work, so its easier to
download there than at home.
what i really need to do is get a laptop and install debian on it and then
tie into the connection at work and ...
(maybe one day)

thanks for your help i going to make sure i have alien installed, that is
one cool proggy!
mw
-Original Message-
From: Levi Waldron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Wathen, Metherion
Cc: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?


Just curious, why did you make up a CD of .debs and other programs, as 
opposing to installing directly from a debian online source using apt (ie, 
apt-get install package-name?  If you don't know what I'm talking about,
fess 
up and we'll point you in the right direction.  The easiest way to install 
debs directly from your cd would be:

mount /cdrom
dpkg -i /cdrom/packagename.deb

For non-deb files, 
alien /cdrom/packagename.tar.gz 
will convert it to a deb to be installed as above.


On November 26, 2002 02:53 pm, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Thanks,
> What kind of info goes into a Packages.gz file (hate to be such a newbie
> but I'm transferring from the windows world).
> I looked at 'man apt-cdrom' and got really confused so any help you can
> offer is appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> mw.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-27 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Hi and thanks for your help,
The machine that i want to install the packages onto does not have an
internet connection, my internet is 56k modem dialup through aol/compuserve
-nothing against them, its free for a year!- but i prolly wouldnt want to
d/l anything of any real size that way, you know like over a meg or two.

mw

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Janecek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:44 PM
To: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?


On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 07:21, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> Am 09:17 2002-11-20 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I
downloaded
> >from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
> 
> What about deselect -> Access method -> CDROM 

No. Nowadays, you should really use APT. (and, as far as i can remember,
dselect's cdrom method does not maintain a cache of what's on your CDs)

mw: do you have internet connection on the machine you want to install
the packages to? if yes: no need to download them to CD first - use
'apt-get install' instead.

cheers, Stefan.

> 
> >Thanks in advance,
> >mw.
> 
> Michelle
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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-26 Thread Stefan Janecek
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 07:21, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> Am 09:17 2002-11-20 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded
> >from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
> 
> What about deselect -> Access method -> CDROM 

No. Nowadays, you should really use APT. (and, as far as i can remember,
dselect's cdrom method does not maintain a cache of what's on your CDs)

mw: do you have internet connection on the machine you want to install
the packages to? if yes: no need to download them to CD first - use
'apt-get install' instead.

cheers, Stefan.

> 
> >Thanks in advance,
> >mw.
> 
> Michelle
-- 
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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-26 Thread Levi Waldron
Just curious, why did you make up a CD of .debs and other programs, as 
opposing to installing directly from a debian online source using apt (ie, 
apt-get install package-name?  If you don't know what I'm talking about, fess 
up and we'll point you in the right direction.  The easiest way to install 
debs directly from your cd would be:

mount /cdrom
dpkg -i /cdrom/packagename.deb

For non-deb files, 
alien /cdrom/packagename.tar.gz 
will convert it to a deb to be installed as above.


On November 26, 2002 02:53 pm, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Thanks,
> What kind of info goes into a Packages.gz file (hate to be such a newbie
> but I'm transferring from the windows world).
> I looked at 'man apt-cdrom' and got really confused so any help you can
> offer is appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> mw.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-26 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Thanks,
What kind of info goes into a Packages.gz file (hate to be such a newbie but
I'm transferring from the windows world).
I looked at 'man apt-cdrom' and got really confused so any help you can
offer is appreciated.

thanks,
mw.

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Konzack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:25 AM
To: Wathen, Metherion
Cc: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?


Hi again, 

Am 10:11 2002-11-20 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
>
>Thanks,
>The CD's prolly are not in the correct directory structure - where do I go
>to find out about the correct structure?
>These are CD's I just burned myself with .debs, tarballs, and such.

1)  Make a Packages(.gz) file and put it onto the cdrom... 
2)  mount the CD-Rom
3)  Run dselect
4)  Access method -> mounted
...

>Thanks again,
>mw.

Michelle


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi again, 

Am 10:11 2002-11-20 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
>
>Thanks,
>The CD's prolly are not in the correct directory structure - where do I go
>to find out about the correct structure?
>These are CD's I just burned myself with .debs, tarballs, and such.

1)  Make a Packages(.gz) file and put it onto the cdrom... 
2)  mount the CD-Rom
3)  Run dselect
4)  Access method -> mounted
...

>Thanks again,
>mw.

Michelle


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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi, 


Am 09:17 2002-11-20 -0500 hat Wathen, Metherion geschrieben:
>
>Hi all,
>I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded
>from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.

What about deselect -> Access method -> CDROM 

>Thanks in advance,
>mw.

Michelle


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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:55:02PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:11:42AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> > Thanks,
> > The CD's prolly are not in the correct directory structure - where do I go
> > to find out about the correct structure?
> > These are CD's I just burned myself with .debs, tarballs, and such.
> 
> Ah.  You can't just tell apt to use any old pile of debs, they need to
> be in a particular directory structure with certain special files.

They don't really need to be in a particular directory structure; that's
just convention. As long as you have the certain special files (i.e.
Packages.gz, and Sources.gz if necessary), then the Filename: fields in
those .debs will sort it out.

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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:11:42AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Thanks,
> The CD's prolly are not in the correct directory structure - where do I go
> to find out about the correct structure?
> These are CD's I just burned myself with .debs, tarballs, and such.

Ah.  You can't just tell apt to use any old pile of debs, they need to
be in a particular directory structure with certain special files.  Copy
the debs somewhere, then run apt-ftparchive on them to generate the
Packages files that you need, or use debian-cd to build a bunch of
Debian cds from a huge pile of .debs.

-rob



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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Bob Nielsen
man apt-cdrom

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:17:37AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded
> from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> mw.


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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Peter Heitman
I believe the instructions are here:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom

Peter

Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I
> downloaded from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> mw.


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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Torsten Wolny
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 20. November 2002 15:17 schrieb Wathen, Metherion:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I
> downloaded from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
man apt-cdrom

>
> Thanks in advance,
> mw.

Torsten


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[Fwd: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?]

2002-11-20 Thread Stefan Janecek
uuups. forgot to CC the list ...

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From: Stefan Janecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Wathen, Metherion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?
Date: 20 Nov 2002 16:01:47 +0100

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 15:17, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded
> from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.

If your CD is a Debian archive (i.e. correct directory structure,
Packages.gz files and the like) just do 'apt-cdrom add'.
(I suppose you use the apt access method in dselect, which you really
should use...)

HTH, Stefan.

> 
> Thanks in advance,
> mw.
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Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 05:17 am, Wathen, Metherion wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I
> downloaded from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> mw.

You can add a cdrom with 'apt-cdrom add'
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RE: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Thanks,
The CD's prolly are not in the correct directory structure - where do I go
to find out about the correct structure?
These are CD's I just burned myself with .debs, tarballs, and such.

Thanks again,
mw.


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How do I add CD's to dselect package list?

2002-11-20 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Hi all,
I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded
from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect.

Thanks in advance,
mw.


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