Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-28 Thread John Summerfield
John Summerfield wrote:


I don't know just when the hfsplus driver first appeared: I just 
assumed it's not in the Woody kernel coz it's too new and so I just 
went for the newest kernel I thought would be easy, without going to 
backports.

  I used it somewhere around 2.4.20, don't remember exactly which one 
(2.4.23?) so 2.4.19 might be good enough...

Anyway, the time for talking is past and I'll be attaching it to my 
Powerbook later today, and after that the drive will be reformatted 
for Linux.

  come on, there's no need for such give-up attitude! :-)

I have a job to get done. I may revisit in the future, but I expect it 
to be simple with Sarge.

Woody is just too old.
Gah
mail:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.4
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package kernel-image-2.4 is a virtual package provided by:
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-k7-smp 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-k7 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-k6 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686-smp 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-686 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-586tsc 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.26-2-386 2.4.26-1woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-k7-smp 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-k7 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-k6 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-686-smp 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-686 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-586tsc 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.24-2-386 2.4.24-2woody.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 2.4.18-5woody8
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686-smp 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-586tsc 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 2.4.18-13.1
 kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.18-686-smp 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.18-686 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.18-386 2.4.18-5
 kernel-image-2.4.16-k7 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-k6 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-686-smp 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-686 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-586tsc 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-586 2.4.16-1
 kernel-image-2.4.16-386 2.4.16-1
You should explicitly select one to install.
E: Package kernel-image-2.4 has no installation candidate
mail:~#
This is woody. I chose the most recent, it came from proposed updates.
And not but also
mail:~# find /lib/modules/ -name hf\* -type f
/lib/modules/2.4.18-1-686/kernel/fs/hfs/hfs.o
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/kernel/fs/hfs/hfs.o
/lib/modules/2.4.26-2-686/kernel/fs/hfsplus/hfsplus.o
/lib/modules/2.4.26-2-686/kernel/fs/hfs/hfs.o
mail:~#
I've not rebooted yet, this is the office server.
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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-27 Thread Erik Steffl
John Summerfield wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 
2.6 kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go 
onsite, I might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.

My efforts at building Sarge packages on Woody haven't met universal 
success.
  stable has kernel source up to 2.4.19 - isn't it enough? Myabe you 
just need unstable...

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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 04:10:49PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
 I have an external (USB)  disk that has Linux files iin a Mac HFS+ disk.
 
 It's connected to my IA32 peecee:
 
 Parted sees it thus:
 Echidna:~# parted /dev/sda
 GNU Parted 1.4.24
 Copyright (C) 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 This program is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License.
 
 This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
 WITHOUT ANY
 WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or 
 FITNESS FOR A
 PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more details.
 
 Using /dev/sda
 Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/sda is
 30401/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
 (parted) print
 Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-238475.179 megabytes
 Disk label type: mac
 MinorStart   End Filesystem  Name  Flags
 1  0.000  0.031  Apple
 3128.031 238475.171  Apple_HFS_Untitled_2
 (parted)
 
 I've installed hfsplus and hfsutils but I don't see how to access it.
 

Could be that you need to recompile the kernel and under advanced
partitioning schemes (don't remember the exact location, but near the
file systems) choose mac partitioning scheme. Also chose hfs file
system support.

No personal experience with that though.

 The peecee is running Woody.
 
 Is there a way to access the data on the disk w/o attaching it to my 
 powerbook?
 (using the powerbook entails a visit to the site).
 
 
 
 
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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-27 Thread John Summerfield
Erik Steffl wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 
2.6 kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go 
onsite, I might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.


My efforts at building Sarge packages on Woody haven't met universal 
success.

  stable has kernel source up to 2.4.19 - isn't it enough? Myabe you 
just need unstable...
_just_ unstable??
I tried the three most recent Debian kernels to no avail. I guess I _should_ have just 
coaxed a prebuilt kernel into place.
I don't know just when the hfsplus driver first appeared: I just assumed it's not in 
the Woody kernel coz it's too new and so I just went for the newest kernel I thought would be 
easy, without going to backports.
Anyway, the time for talking is past and I'll be attaching it to my Powerbook later 
today, and after that the drive will be reformatted for Linux.

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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-27 Thread Erik Steffl
John Summerfield wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 
2.6 kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go 
onsite, I might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.


My efforts at building Sarge packages on Woody haven't met universal 
success.

  stable has kernel source up to 2.4.19 - isn't it enough? Myabe you 
just need unstable...

_just_ unstable??
I tried the three most recent Debian kernels to no avail. I guess I 
_should_ have just coaxed a prebuilt kernel into place.
  well, woody might have some tools that are too old... not sure what's 
the problem... unstable should be current enough for current kernel (I 
have 2.6.5)

  and it's just need, not just unstable:-)
I don't know just when the hfsplus driver first appeared: I just 
assumed it's not in the Woody kernel coz it's too new and so I just 
went for the newest kernel I thought would be easy, without going to 
backports.
  I used it somewhere around 2.4.20, don't remember exactly which one 
(2.4.23?) so 2.4.19 might be good enough...

Anyway, the time for talking is past and I'll be attaching it to my 
Powerbook later today, and after that the drive will be reformatted for 
Linux.
  come on, there's no need for such give-up attitude! :-)
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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-27 Thread John Summerfield


I don't know just when the hfsplus driver first appeared: I just 
assumed it's not in the Woody kernel coz it's too new and so I just 
went for the newest kernel I thought would be easy, without going to 
backports.

  I used it somewhere around 2.4.20, don't remember exactly which one 
(2.4.23?) so 2.4.19 might be good enough...

Anyway, the time for talking is past and I'll be attaching it to my 
Powerbook later today, and after that the drive will be reformatted 
for Linux.

  come on, there's no need for such give-up attitude! :-)

I have a job to get done. I may revisit in the future, but I expect it 
to be simple with Sarge.

Woody is just too old.
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How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-26 Thread John Summerfield
I have an external (USB)  disk that has Linux files iin a Mac HFS+ disk.
It's connected to my IA32 peecee:
Parted sees it thus:
Echidna:~# parted /dev/sda
GNU Parted 1.4.24
Copyright (C) 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
WITHOUT ANY
WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or 
FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more details.

Using /dev/sda
Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/sda is
30401/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-238475.179 megabytes
Disk label type: mac
MinorStart   End Filesystem  Name  Flags
1  0.000  0.031  Apple
3128.031 238475.171  Apple_HFS_Untitled_2
(parted)
I've installed hfsplus and hfsutils but I don't see how to access it.
The peecee is running Woody.
Is there a way to access the data on the disk w/o attaching it to my 
powerbook?
(using the powerbook entails a visit to the site).


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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-26 Thread Erik Steffl
John Summerfield wrote:
I have an external (USB)  disk that has Linux files iin a Mac HFS+ disk.
It's connected to my IA32 peecee:
Parted sees it thus:
Echidna:~# parted /dev/sda
GNU Parted 1.4.24
Copyright (C) 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
WITHOUT ANY
WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or 
FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more details.

Using /dev/sda
Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/sda is
30401/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-238475.179 megabytes
Disk label type: mac
MinorStart   End Filesystem  Name  Flags
1  0.000  0.031  Apple
3128.031 238475.171  Apple_HFS_Untitled_2
(parted)
I've installed hfsplus and hfsutils but I don't see how to access it.
The peecee is running Woody.
Is there a way to access the data on the disk w/o attaching it to my 
powerbook?
(using the powerbook entails a visit to the site).
  did you try to mount the disk?
  from partition table it looks like this might work:
mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/macDisk
  you need mac partition support in kernel (looks like you have that 
otherwise parted would not recognize partitions, I guess) and hfsplus 
filesystem support in kernel. You also need support for USB mass storage 
(these appear as scsi disks, e.g. /dev/sda)

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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-26 Thread John Summerfield
Erik Steffl wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I have an external (USB)  disk that has Linux files iin a Mac HFS+ disk.
It's connected to my IA32 peecee:
Parted sees it thus:
Echidna:~# parted /dev/sda
GNU Parted 1.4.24
Copyright (C) 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, 
Inc.
This program is free software, covered by the GNU General Public 
License.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
WITHOUT ANY
WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or 
FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more 
details.

Using /dev/sda
Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/sda is
30401/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-238475.179 megabytes
Disk label type: mac
MinorStart   End Filesystem  Name  Flags
1  0.000  0.031  Apple
3128.031 238475.171  Apple_HFS_Untitled_2
(parted)
I've installed hfsplus and hfsutils but I don't see how to access it.
The peecee is running Woody.
Is there a way to access the data on the disk w/o attaching it to my 
powerbook?
(using the powerbook entails a visit to the site).

  did you try to mount the disk?
  from partition table it looks like this might work:
mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/macDisk
  you need mac partition support in kernel (looks like you have that 
otherwise parted would not recognize partitions, I guess) and hfsplus 
filesystem support in kernel. You also need support for USB mass 
storage (these appear as scsi disks, e.g. /dev/sda)

USB is fine.
I think parted interprets the data it reads.
Kernel sucks:
Echidna:~# mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/cdrom/
mount: fs type hfsplus not supported by kernel
Echidna:~# ls -l /lib/modules/2.4.18-1-686/kernel/fs/
total 156
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 adfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 affs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 autofs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 autofs4
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 bfs
-rw-r--r--1 root root 6788 Apr 15 04:02 binfmt_aout.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root10008 Apr 15 04:02 binfmt_misc.o
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 coda
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 efs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ext2
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ext3
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 fat
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 freevxfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 hfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 hpfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 intermezzo
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 isofs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 jbd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 lockd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 minix
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 msdos
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ncpfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nfsd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nls
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ntfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 qnx4
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ramfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 reiserfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 romfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 smbfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 sysv
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 udf
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ufs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 umsdos
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 vfat
Echidna:~#
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 2.6 
kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go onsite, I 
might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.
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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-26 Thread Erik Steffl
John Summerfield wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I have an external (USB)  disk that has Linux files iin a Mac HFS+ disk.
It's connected to my IA32 peecee:
Parted sees it thus:
Echidna:~# parted /dev/sda
GNU Parted 1.4.24
Copyright (C) 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Free Software Foundation, 
Inc.
This program is free software, covered by the GNU General Public 
License.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
WITHOUT ANY
WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or 
FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more 
details.

Using /dev/sda
Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/sda is
30401/255/63.  Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M.
(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-238475.179 megabytes
Disk label type: mac
MinorStart   End Filesystem  Name  Flags
1  0.000  0.031  Apple
3128.031 238475.171  Apple_HFS_Untitled_2
(parted)
I've installed hfsplus and hfsutils but I don't see how to access it.
The peecee is running Woody.
Is there a way to access the data on the disk w/o attaching it to my 
powerbook?
(using the powerbook entails a visit to the site).

  did you try to mount the disk?
  from partition table it looks like this might work:
mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/macDisk
  you need mac partition support in kernel (looks like you have that 
otherwise parted would not recognize partitions, I guess) and hfsplus 
filesystem support in kernel. You also need support for USB mass 
storage (these appear as scsi disks, e.g. /dev/sda)

USB is fine.
I think parted interprets the data it reads.
Kernel sucks:
Echidna:~# mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/cdrom/
mount: fs type hfsplus not supported by kernel
Echidna:~# ls -l /lib/modules/2.4.18-1-686/kernel/fs/
total 156
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 adfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 affs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 autofs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 autofs4
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 bfs
-rw-r--r--1 root root 6788 Apr 15 04:02 binfmt_aout.o
-rw-r--r--1 root root10008 Apr 15 04:02 binfmt_misc.o
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 coda
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 efs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ext2
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ext3
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 fat
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 freevxfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 hfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 hpfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 intermezzo
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 isofs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 jbd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 lockd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 minix
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 msdos
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ncpfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nfsd
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 nls
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ntfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 qnx4
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ramfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 reiserfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 romfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 smbfs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 sysv
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 udf
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 ufs
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 umsdos
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 27 14:13 vfat
Echidna:~#
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 2.6 
kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go onsite, I 
might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.
  why wouldn't you be able to build the kernel? use the existing kernel 
config and make oldconfig, just add the mac partition support and 
hfsplus (you need BOTH for the disk to work)

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Re: How do I read a Mac disk on Linux.

2004-07-26 Thread John Summerfield
Erik Steffl wrote:
The 2.6 kernel I'm running here looks like it will work. THere's a 
2.6 kernel there too, but it's in a different box. If I have to go 
onsite, I might as well use OSX on the powerbook.

However, I _can_ build a Sarge 2.4 kernel. Maybe.

My efforts at building Sarge packages on Woody haven't met universal 
success.

  why wouldn't you be able to build the kernel? use the existing 
kernel config and make oldconfig, just add the mac partition support 
and hfsplus (you need BOTH for the disk to work)


However, this excuse for not building is new:
gcc -D__KERNEL__ 
-I/home/summer/kernels/kernel-image-2.4.26-i386-2.4.26/build-386/include 
-Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing 
-fno-common -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 
-march=i386   -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=filemap  
-DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c filemap.c
filemap.c: In function `sys_sendfile64':
filemap.c:1949: Internal compiler error:
filemap.c:1949: internal error--unrecognizable insn:
(insn 358 449 367 (set (reg/v:SI 5 %edi)
   (asm_operands/v (1:movl %%eax,0(%2)
2:  movl %%edx,4(%2)
3:
.section .fixup,ax
4:  movl %3,%0
   jmp 3b
.previous
.section __ex_table,a
   .align 4
   .long 1b,4b
   .long 2b,4b
.previous) (=r) 0[
   (reg:DI 1 %edx)
   (reg:SI 4 %esi)
   (const_int -14 [0xfff2])
   (reg/v:SI 5 %edi)
   ]
   [
   (asm_input:DI (A))
   (asm_input:SI (r))
   (asm_input:SI (i))
   (asm_input:SI (0))
   ]  (filemap.c) 1947)) -1 (insn_list 333 (insn_list 357 (nil)))
   (nil))
cpp0: output pipe has been closed


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