Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
On Mi, 18 apr 12, 22:56:16, sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote: I guess I have not understood the basics of versioning in debian kernels. When you say 6.0.0 and 6.0.3 are outdated, does it mean everyone using those kernels are expected to move to 6.0.4? You are using Debian version numbers instead of kernel version numbers, but basically yes, packages in Debian stable are only updated when there are security or other serious problems to be fixed and everybody is expected to upgrade. If you need older versions of some specific package (including kernels) have a look at snapshot.debian.org Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
On 22/04/12 10:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 18 apr 12, 22:56:16, sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote: I guess I have not understood the basics of versioning in debian kernels. When you say 6.0.0 and 6.0.3 are outdated, does it mean everyone using those kernels are expected to move to 6.0.4? You are using Debian version numbers instead of kernel version numbers, but basically yes, packages in Debian stable are only updated when there are security or other serious problems to be fixed and everybody is expected to upgrade. If you need older versions of some specific package (including kernels) have a look at snapshot.debian.org Kind regards, Andrei I'd be more than a little leery of installing a different kernel than the one packaged by Debian. The kernel interface can change between versions so that something that works in one may not work in a newer, or older, version. Answering the question asked in the subject line, to install the current kernel image for your version of Debian, try apt-get install linux-image-version information You can find the exact package names in packages.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f94447b.3010...@rogers.com
How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. The uname -a shows the same after any of the installations. I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the specific version of debian and kernel sources too. I was told that installer is automatically upgrading the system. No matter what combination I try during install, the debian_version and uname -a are the same!!! Or is this expected behavior? What am I missing?
Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
On 19/04/12 15:27, sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote: I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. The uname –a shows the same after any of the installations. I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the specific version of debian and kernel sources too. I was told that installer is automatically upgrading the system. No matter what combination I try during install, the debian_version and uname –a are the same!!! Or is this expected behavior? What am I missing? Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the 'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the network at all. Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always need to download packages, and so will get current ones. But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure) kernels? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8f8862.9040...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
Richard Hector wrote: sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote: I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the 'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the network at all. If you are installing from CD then don't use a network. Unplug the network and install offline. That will guarentee you the versions are only from the CD. After installation remove any networked locations from /etc/apt/sources.list. Because otherwise any installations or upgrades will pull in the latest versions from the reposities. Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always need to download packages, and so will get current ones. Of course the netinstall disk will need a network. I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the specific version of debian and kernel sources too. But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure) kernels? That does seem like a strange time machine request. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image
Richard/Bob, I am new to debian. Here is how I seen things work in other distributions, it is common for customers to run different versions of the kernel. If they have issues with an older kernel, then there is a need to provide a driver with the fixes built against that version of the kernel. You install CD for older kernel and build a driver against it. If somebody had installed and deployed a Debian 6.0.0 kernel when it was stable and has an issue with one of the driver. Will he need to upgrade to latest 6.0.x and install a driver with fix? (option1 ) or can he upgrade the driver alone (option 2)? If option 2 is even valid, then I need to first be able to install Debian 6.0.0 version of the kernel a build a driver against it. I guess I have not understood the basics of versioning in debian kernels. When you say 6.0.0 and 6.0.3 are outdated, does it mean everyone using those kernels are expected to move to 6.0.4? Thanks, Sarvesh -Original Message- From: Bob Proulx [mailto:b...@proulx.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:01 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: How do Install debian kernel without updating to latest kernel image Richard Hector wrote: sarveshwar.ba...@emulex.com wrote: I am trying to install different versions of Debian from Debian install CDs. For example Debian 6.0.0, 6.0.3 and 6.0.4. After installing any of CDs I see the debian_version is showing as 6.0.4. Isn't there an option, during the apt setup, to not use security.debian.org for security updates? I guess you might need the 'expert' install option for that (I always use it, so I don't know what's left out if you don't). Or even don't plug it into the network at all. If you are installing from CD then don't use a network. Unplug the network and install offline. That will guarentee you the versions are only from the CD. After installation remove any networked locations from /etc/apt/sources.list. Because otherwise any installations or upgrades will pull in the latest versions from the reposities. Of course you'd need full CDs; I imagine netinst ones will always need to download packages, and so will get current ones. Of course the netinstall disk will need a network. I want to install each of these versions and be able to build my driver against them. So I also need the linux kernel header for the specific version of debian and kernel sources too. But also, why do you need to support outdated (potentially insecure) kernels? That does seem like a strange time machine request. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b411ec5497e7bf439cd9ba21ceac8cb80b4936e...@exmail.ad.emulex.com
