Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-04 Thread lee
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 01:58:11PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
 On Ter, 02 Jun 2009, lee wrote:
 Ok, that's what they are saying. How do you know if it's true?

 You check the source.

 Oh, this is closed-source software. In this case, if you are not willing 
 to believe what the company behind it says, you should not use the 
 software.

I know that --- but how do I watch the videos then? Why don't the
browsers just convert them to something that can be watched with a
better player?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-04 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Qui, 04 Jun 2009, lee wrote:

I know that --- but how do I watch the videos then? Why don't the
browsers just convert them to something that can be watched with a
better player?


Why should a browser convert a video? A browser is for surfing web  
pages, not for transcoding videos.



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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-02 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:19:59PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2009-06-01 02:36 +0200, lee wrote:
 
  On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:25:37AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
  
  How about dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree?  If you do not trust
  Adobe, stop using their closed-source software.
 
  I'd gladly do that, but how would I watch the videos then?
 
 If you insist on viewing any video on the planet, there is probably no
 really satisfactory solution.  But you could at least try swfdec-mozilla
 and/or mozilla-plugin-gnash which will play some videos.

I didn't try to watch any videos, only the ones I wanted to see.

 If (i.e. when)
 you encounter sites that to not work with them, you can press Ctrl-u and
 search for .flv in the page source which often reveals a URL to a file
 you can download, bringing you back to your original question.

Well, try that on this site, for example:
http://www.blinkx.com/video/star-trek-the-next-generation-tng-remember-me/EG__neFe_Val0UlBlbE4mA

Why can the web browser not just allow me to download the videos like
all others?

 So far I've been able to avoid Adobe's crash-plugin.

Interestingly, it doesn't seem to crash as often as it did since I
stopped running KDE. I watched the first three seasons of TNG without
the player crashing. But anyway, the player sucks.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-02 Thread lee
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:49:13PM -0500, Jason Dunsmore wrote:
 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes:
 
  On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:25:37AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 
  I'd gladly do that, but how would I watch the videos then?
 
 Check out the mtube greasemonkey script for Firefox.  It allows you to
 play youtube videos in mplayer via mplayerplug-in.
 
 http://raaf.atspace.org/mtube/

What is youtube? Another format for videos?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-02 Thread lee
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 04:20:15PM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:
 
  http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
  
   They get a list of sites you have visited --- and who knows what else.
 
  No, they don't get that list. At least, you cannot tell whether they do
  from looking at that web page. What you are seeing is a flash element,
  interpreted by your *local* flash plugin, that's showing you your
  *local* settings, cookies etc.
 
 
 Your logic is going to fall on deaf ears, unfortunately.  Heck, it even says
 the same thing you just did on the page linked:
 
 The list of websites above is stored on your computer only so that you can
 view or change your privacy settings or local storage settings. Adobe has no
 access to this list, or to any of the information that the websites may have
 stored on your computer.
 
 Too many people in tinfoil hats around here for you to be heard!

Ok, that's what they are saying. How do you know if it's true?

And when you set a site (or all sites) to store nothing, does that
turn off buffering the videos?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-02 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Ter, 02 Jun 2009, lee wrote:

Ok, that's what they are saying. How do you know if it's true?


You check the source.

Oh, this is closed-source software. In this case, if you are not  
willing to believe what the company behind it says, you should not use  
the software.



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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-01 Thread thveillon.debian
lee wrote:
[big snip]
 Use Firefox
 better privacy extension, it can wipe the .macromedia content
 automatically.
 
 Does that work with iceweasel? Even if it does, I keep the browser
 running until the flashplayer crashes.
 

better privacy can wipe out the .macromedia folder content on a
time-based interval, even if you don't close the browser.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-01 02:36 +0200, lee wrote:

 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:25:37AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 
 How about dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree?  If you do not trust
 Adobe, stop using their closed-source software.

 I'd gladly do that, but how would I watch the videos then?

If you insist on viewing any video on the planet, there is probably no
really satisfactory solution.  But you could at least try swfdec-mozilla
and/or mozilla-plugin-gnash which will play some videos.  If (i.e. when)
you encounter sites that to not work with them, you can press Ctrl-u and
search for .flv in the page source which often reveals a URL to a file
you can download, bringing you back to your original question.

So far I've been able to avoid Adobe's crash-plugin.

Sven


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-06-01 Thread Jason Dunsmore
lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes:

 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:25:37AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

 I'd gladly do that, but how would I watch the videos then?

Check out the mtube greasemonkey script for Firefox.  It allows you to
play youtube videos in mplayer via mplayerplug-in.

http://raaf.atspace.org/mtube/


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-05-31 04:14 +0200, lee wrote:

 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
 If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
 back using the setting panel from Adobe there :
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
 the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
 you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.

 That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
 information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?

How about dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree?  If you do not trust
Adobe, stop using their closed-source software.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread thveillon.debian
lee wrote:
 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
 If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
 back using the setting panel from Adobe there :

 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html

 the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
 you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.
 
 That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
 information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?
 
 

Change your settings and don't allow storage of any data locally (of
course the /tmp trick won't work anymore), write a script to rm -r
~/.macromedia when you close your browser, or every 15mn, whatever. Use
something like bleachbit (available in repo).
Do your browsing from a live-cd, or a virtual machine and wipe the
snapshot afterward. Bind-mount a flash disk partition on ~/.macromedia
on startup, this way there's nothing left on you disk. Use Firefox
better privacy extension, it can wipe the .macromedia content
automatically.

Use flashblock, noscript, or don't use flash altogether...

On the wild wild web privacy is a lost word, security an illusion.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread Jochen Schulz
lee:
 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:41:57PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
 
 Spying?
 
 look at
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
 They get a list of sites you have visited --- and who knows what else.

No, they don't get that list. At least, you cannot tell whether they do
from looking at that web page. What you are seeing is a flash element,
interpreted by your *local* flash plugin, that's showing you your
*local* settings, cookies etc.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread Rich Griffiths
On Sun, 31 May 2009 12:50:11 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:

snip
  Use Firefox better privacy
 extension, it can wipe the .macromedia content automatically.
 
snip
 
 Tom

Thanks for this tip.  I've been doing it manually once in a while.

I should spend more time looking over the available add-ons and plug-ins  
sigh.

 Rich


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread thveillon.debian
Rich Griffiths wrote:
 On Sun, 31 May 2009 12:50:11 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
 
 snip
  Use Firefox better privacy
 extension, it can wipe the .macromedia content automatically.

 snip
 Tom
 
 Thanks for this tip.  I've been doing it manually once in a while.
 
 I should spend more time looking over the available add-ons and plug-ins  
 sigh.
 
  Rich
 
 

Always happy to share, it's definitely a time-consuming pain to browse
the gazillion extensions at mozilla.com, fortunately for us the Debian
team is doing a great job cherry-picking some and packaging them.
flashblock and noscript are already there, maybe better privacy
will be one of the next load.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:

 lee:
  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:41:57PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
 
  Spying?
 
  look at
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
  They get a list of sites you have visited --- and who knows what else.

 No, they don't get that list. At least, you cannot tell whether they do
 from looking at that web page. What you are seeing is a flash element,
 interpreted by your *local* flash plugin, that's showing you your
 *local* settings, cookies etc.


Your logic is going to fall on deaf ears, unfortunately.  Heck, it even says
the same thing you just did on the page linked:

The list of websites above is stored on your computer only so that you can
view or change your privacy settings or local storage settings. Adobe has no
access to this list, or to any of the information that the websites may have
stored on your computer.

Too many people in tinfoil hats around here for you to be heard!

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread lee
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:44:15AM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
 lee wrote:
  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
  If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
  back using the setting panel from Adobe there :
 
  http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
  the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
  you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.
  
  That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
  information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?
  
  
 
 Change your settings and don't allow storage of any data locally

It doesn't store visited sites then?

Anyway, it would work against me in that I'm trying to achieve that
the data be stored locally so that I can watch without
interruption.

And I don't know what other information is eventually being
transmitted without my permission, regardless of the settings. Calling
this player a security hole (or saying it has severe security issues)
would be an understatement. Software like that should be illegal ---
if it not already is.

 (of course the /tmp trick won't work anymore), write a script to rm
 -r ~/.macromedia when you close your browser, or every 15mn,
 whatever. Use something like bleachbit (available in repo).

What I need is a content scanner that continuously monitors all
outgoing connections and alarms me in case some information is being
sent I don't want to be sent.

 Do your browsing from a live-cd, or a virtual machine and wipe the
 snapshot afterward.

not possible

 Bind-mount a flash disk partition on ~/.macromedia
 on startup, this way there's nothing left on you disk.

I only restart when contact to one of the disks is lost (which is
probably a hardware problem with that disk) or when it seems a good
idea after an update that brought in a lot of new software: every two
months or less, maybe.

 Use Firefox
 better privacy extension, it can wipe the .macromedia content
 automatically.

Does that work with iceweasel? Even if it does, I keep the browser
running until the flashplayer crashes.

 Use flashblock, noscript, or don't use flash altogether...

Then how do I watch videos? I only installed that player recently
because I found I didn't have another choice. I always hated that
player, and since I'm using it, I hate it even more. Once I'm done
with watching, I'll remove it, but installing and uninstalling it all
the time isn't a good option, either.

 On the wild wild web privacy is a lost word, security an illusion.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that anyone should have to accept spyware
like that. At least there should be a big, fat security warning that
the player is spyware when installing it.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-31 Thread lee
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:25:37AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2009-05-31 04:14 +0200, lee wrote:
 
  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
  If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
  back using the setting panel from Adobe there :
  
  http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
  
  the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
  you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.
 
  That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
  information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?
 
 How about dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree?  If you do not trust
 Adobe, stop using their closed-source software.

I'd gladly do that, but how would I watch the videos then?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 09:24:05PM -0500, LinuxChuck wrote:
 May I suggest a firefox addon called Downloadhelper.  I believe it is
 capable of saving flv (flash video) files to your drive.  Just go check out
 https://addons.mozilla.org and you should be able to find it there.

Thanks, I'll take a look at that!


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:43:22AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
 The sites usually detect you are trying to save a copy and won't
 proceed. Try putting a man in the middle (WWWOFFLE).

How could they detect that? They are just sending data --- or is the
player responding in some way to tell the sender that the player is
recieving it?

I really hate that player, it's so awfully primitive ... but if you
want to watch, you're forced to use it :(


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread JoeHill
lee wrote: 

 the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
 to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
 
 Some sites feed the data too slow to watch while it's being fed, so I
 want to download what's being send instead and save it to a file that
 I can play later when all the data has arrived.
 
 Can this somehow be done with wget, maybe?

Try this:

http://clive.sourceforge.net/

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread thveillon.debian
JoeHill wrote:
 lee wrote: 
 
 the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
 to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

 Some sites feed the data too slow to watch while it's being fed, so I
 want to download what's being send instead and save it to a file that
 I can play later when all the data has arrived.

 Can this somehow be done with wget, maybe?
 
 Try this:
 
 http://clive.sourceforge.net/
 

Hi,

if you didn't tweak your flasplayer settings the video should appear in
/tmp while it's streamed. Usually it's a random name with letters and
numbers. When you see the size stabilizing, or the progress bar in the
player full (pause the video, but leave it open), you just have to copy
that file from /tmp, rename it with extension .flv. VLC will happily
play those.

If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
back using the setting panel from Adobe there :

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html

the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.

Tom


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread s. keeling
JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:
  lee wrote: 
 
  the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
  to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
 
  Try this:
 
  http://clive.sourceforge.net/

ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread JoeHill
s. keeling wrote: 

 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:
   lee wrote: 

   the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
   to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?  
  
   Try this:
  
   http://clive.sourceforge.net/  
 
 ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive

Nag, nag, nag ;)

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread s. keeling
JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:
  s. keeling wrote: 
 
  JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:
lee wrote: 

the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?  
   
http://clive.sourceforge.net/  
  
  ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive
 
  Nag, nag, nag ;)

Perhaps, however, most times I've gone looking for useful info
on sf, I've come away frustrated.  aptitude search or show and
apt-file are far more informative, IME.  Debian don't need no
steenking sf!  :-)

No offence intended to sf, btw.  They do good things too, just not
this one very well.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
 If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
 back using the setting panel from Adobe there :
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
 the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
 you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.

That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:26:24PM +, s. keeling wrote:
 JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:
   lee wrote: 
  
   the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
   to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?
  
   Try this:
  
   http://clive.sourceforge.net/
 
 ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive

Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe it even helps against the spying ...

Isn't there something that can convert the data as it's recieved so
that it can be viewed with another player? Their spying is outrageous.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread JoeHill
lee wrote: 

 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:26:24PM +, s. keeling wrote:
  JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:  
lee wrote: 
 
the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?  
   
Try this:
   
http://clive.sourceforge.net/  
  
  ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive  
 
 Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe it even helps against the spying ...
 
 Isn't there something that can convert the data as it's recieved so
 that it can be viewed with another player? Their spying is outrageous.

Spying?

You could probably rig up some complicated script that would download and
convert web content on the fly. When you do, you should let us know, there
would be a huge audience for something so sweet :-)

In the meantime, ffmpeg will convert anything to anything else. If you are not
as comfortable on the command line, you could try a utility like Handbrake.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread JoeHill
lee wrote: 

 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:10:58PM +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:
  If you tweak you flashplayer not to cache content locally, just tweak it
  back using the setting panel from Adobe there :
  
  http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
  
  the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
  you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.  
 
 That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
 information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?

Never use the Internet?

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:44:38PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
 lee wrote: 
 
   http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
   
   the image in the upper right part of the page is a setting panel, what
   you set there is set locally on your computer in ~/.macromedia/.  
  
  That is interesting, I haven't given them permission to access that
  information. How do I protect myself against that kind of spying?
 
 Never use the Internet?

That's not a good option.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-30 Thread lee
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:41:57PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
 lee wrote: 
 
  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 07:26:24PM +, s. keeling wrote:
   JoeHill joeh...@teksavvy.com:  
 lee wrote: 
  
 the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
 to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?  

 Try this:

 http://clive.sourceforge.net/  
   
   ITYM:  aptitude update  aptitude install clive  
  
  Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe it even helps against the spying ...
  
  Isn't there something that can convert the data as it's recieved so
  that it can be viewed with another player? Their spying is outrageous.
 
 Spying?

look at
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html

They get a list of sites you have visited --- and who knows what else.

 You could probably rig up some complicated script that would download and
 convert web content on the fly. When you do, you should let us know, there
 would be a huge audience for something so sweet :-)

Well, I tried clive, but it doesn't work. It only says error: no
support [URL].

This can't be so difficult since there is some kind of wrapper used by
the browsers, so obviously the browser has a working way to figure out
the type of data it gets and to call an application to handle the
data. It should be very easy to have that data saved. What's the
problem with that? Why isn't that a feature of the browsers already?

 In the meantime, ffmpeg will convert anything to anything else. If
 you are not as comfortable on the command line, you could try a
 utility like Handbrake.

Yeah, well, why doesn't the wrapper do that already?


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How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-29 Thread lee
Hi,

the subject says it all: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser)
to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

Some sites feed the data too slow to watch while it's being fed, so I
want to download what's being send instead and save it to a file that
I can play later when all the data has arrived.

Can this somehow be done with wget, maybe?


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-29 Thread LinuxChuck
May I suggest a firefox addon called Downloadhelper.  I believe it is
capable of saving flv (flash video) files to your drive.  Just go check out
https://addons.mozilla.org and you should be able to find it there.


Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

2009-05-29 Thread jidanni
The sites usually detect you are trying to save a copy and won't
proceed. Try putting a man in the middle (WWWOFFLE).


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