Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-29 Thread will trillich
okay, i just zapped most of this thread yesterday, and now i go
back to look for it and it's not yet on geocrawler, and it's not
yet on lists.debian.org either...

what's the sequence for establishing WHY apt is holding packages
back from being upgraded, again?

:)

thanks!

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Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-27 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le lun 27/01/2003 à 10:58, Ron Johnson a écrit :
> On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:07, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > > You should do this:
> > > # apt-gte update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> > 
> > I prefer this:
> > 
> > # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --no-remove
> > 
> > 
> > That way if there's a package with broken dependencies, I can see it
> > before it removes half my desktop.
> 
> Sounds like you put that in a cron script, and I don't like that
> idea.  However, this is recommended method, I believe:
> In the cron script:
> # apt-get update && apt-get -d -u dist-upgrade
> Next morning, from a terminal window:
> # apt-get -u dist-upgrade

No, I didn't put some auto-upgrade thing in a cron script. However I'll
look at what your commands do, that seems interesting.

Xav


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Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:07, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > You should do this:
> > # apt-gte update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> I prefer this:
> 
> # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --no-remove
> 
> 
> That way if there's a package with broken dependencies, I can see it
> before it removes half my desktop.

Sounds like you put that in a cron script, and I don't like that
idea.  However, this is recommended method, I believe:
In the cron script:
# apt-get update && apt-get -d -u dist-upgrade
Next morning, from a terminal window:
# apt-get -u dist-upgrade

That'll allow you to decide what you *really* want to do, especially
regarding config files.

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Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-27 Thread Xavier Bestel

> You should do this:
> # apt-gte update && apt-get dist-upgrade

I prefer this:

# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade --no-remove


That way if there's a package with broken dependencies, I can see it
before it removes half my desktop.

Xav


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Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 09:35, stan wrote:
> I've got 2 differnt "testing' machines that should be set up in a very
> similar fashion (mine which I tend to test things on first, and my wife's,
> which I ry to keep _very_ stable).
> 
> Latley when I do apt-gte update ; apt-get dist-upgrade, her machine has
> been "holding back" gnome-common.
> 
> How can I determine why this is os, and correct it?

# apt-get -s -u install gnome-common

Oh, and NEVER do "apt-gte update ; apt-get dist-upgrade".  If the
"apt-get upgrade" fails, the dist-upgrade will proceed anyway.

You should do this:
# apt-gte update && apt-get dist-upgrade

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Re: How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-26 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:35:00AM -0500, stan wrote:
> I've got 2 differnt "testing' machines that should be set up in a very
> similar fashion (mine which I tend to test things on first, and my wife's,
> which I ry to keep _very_ stable).
> 
> Latley when I do apt-gte update ; apt-get dist-upgrade, her machine has
> been "holding back" gnome-common.
> 
> How can I determine why this is os, and correct it?

This may tell you why it is held back:

Start aptitude.
Search for gnome-common.
Press enter to display package description and dependencies.
Scroll to bottom to view available versions.
Highlight held-back version and press enter and scroll through list 
to find dependencies that are not being met.
Repeatedly press "q" to close displayed information and exit aptitude.

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How to determine why a package is "held back"?

2003-01-26 Thread stan
I've got 2 differnt "testing' machines that should be set up in a very
similar fashion (mine which I tend to test things on first, and my wife's,
which I ry to keep _very_ stable).

Latley when I do apt-gte update ; apt-get dist-upgrade, her machine has
been "holding back" gnome-common.

How can I determine why this is os, and correct it?


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