Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:00:42PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:42:55PM +0100, abelahcene wrote: I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. My smallest box is a 486 with 32MB ram with a 512 MB drive. Granted it can't run Etch anymore but it runs up-to-date xorg from OpenBSD. Why can't this box run Etch? IIRC the minimal requirements of the Debian Installer is either 32MB or 24MB (for the low memory variant). I use icewm on all my boxes. If you only want to show one window, then technically you don't need a window manager. For convenience, you could have rxvt start then run your app from that. Set window size and position with --geometry. Which is fine, as long as the app does not pop-up any additional windows. Then things become strange. For a single-application scenario, you may also run it on the console frame-buffer directly (at least if it is GTK), I believe. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 01:24:21PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:00:42PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: My smallest box is a 486 with 32MB ram with a 512 MB drive. Granted it can't run Etch anymore but it runs up-to-date xorg from OpenBSD. Why can't this box run Etch? IIRC the minimal requirements of the Debian Installer is either 32MB or 24MB (for the low memory variant). The installer needs 48 MB. I did the drive-swap juggle from another computer. It takes Etch 5 minutes to boot, and about 30 seconds from login to bash prompt. X takes about 10 minutes to start and even icewm with Xorg hits swap, and this with the vesa driver. I get good resoultion with the xf86-v3 S3 driver but v3 was removed from Etch (and Sarge). Aptitude hits swap very hard loading all the info on all the packages in main into memory and causes the box to thrash. In short, even if you get it loaded, Etch is a dog on old boxes. The box is rather zippy on OpenBSD. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:42:55PM +0100, abelahcene wrote: I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. My smallest box is a 486 with 32MB ram with a 512 MB drive. Granted it can't run Etch anymore but it runs up-to-date xorg from OpenBSD. I use icewm on all my boxes. If you only want to show one window, then technically you don't need a window manager. For convenience, you could have rxvt start then run your app from that. Set window size and position with --geometry. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:42:55PM +0100, abelahcene wrote: Hi, I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. WM basically implies X. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. matchbox is one example of a desktop optimized for smaller displays on top of X. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install a small graphic manager
Hi, I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. thanks for reply bela -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:42:55PM +0100, abelahcene wrote: Hi, I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. thanks for reply bela Define small. I run X and fvwm on my XO-1 with etch. Its specs are 700mhz/256MB ram/1GB SDD. iirc it etch was like 300mb or so. -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install a small graphic manager
abelahcene wrote: Hi, I have a miniPc, can't install the heavy gnome or kde on it . I want to install a just graphic , in fact I want to use it , just to display a window . Any small WM will be OK. i have Fluxbox running on a 133mhz/16mb compaq laptop. with gKrellm and a few scripts i use it quite often. So I have to install the system whitout X, and complete it with small X later, I don't know what are the required packages to run correctly the X. shouldn't be a problem. use aptitude to help yourself out when installing. just stay away from the meta packages if you are concerned about space. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
