Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
Hello Debian community, I have been looking for a guide to convert an rpm package (specifically a kernel - ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/master/x86_64/kernel-xen.rpm) over into a deb binary or even a tarball will work for me. Unfortunately my internet searches are resulting in very old means to accomplish this task. http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/debian/sarge/kern2deb/ http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-extract-an-rpm-package-without-installing-it.html I have tried alien -t myrpmfile.rpm and rpm2cpio myrpmfile.rpm | cpio -idmv with no success. Therefore I was hoping someone could devise a quick how to for making recent rpm based kernels into a debian binary. Your time with this matter would be GREATLY appreciated! -M _
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:06 -0500 (EST), Mike Viau wrote: Hello Debian community, I have been looking for a guide to convert an rpm package (specifically a kernel - ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/master/x86_64/kernel-xen.rpm) over into a deb binary or even a tarball will work for me. Unfortunately my internet searches are resulting in very old means to accomplish this task. http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/debian/sarge/kern2deb/ http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-extract-an-rpm-package-without-installing-it.html I have tried alien -t myrpmfile.rpm and rpm2cpio myrpmfile.rpm | cpio -idmv with no success. Therefore I was hoping someone could devise a quick how to for making recent rpm based kernels into a debian binary. Your time with this matter would be GREATLY appreciated! As you have discovered, there is an alien package for dealing with rpm packages, but it is MUCH MUCH better to install a native Debian package, ESPECIALLY if it is a kernel. What specific real-world problem are you trying to solve? Why is a Debian stock kernel not adequate? Is there some kernel option that is enabled in the Redhat kernel that is not enabled in the Debian kernel? Is the Redhat kernel based on a release of the Linux kernel that is not available in Debian? If you need to build a custom kernel in Debian, I would recommend http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm That happens to be my own web page and I am in the process of updating it even as I write this e-mail, but my changes haven't been moved into production yet. I guess the basic question to be answered, though, is why you think you need this specific kernel from a Redhat system installed on a Debian system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
Very fair question. I need the xen patches that are incorperated in the kernel. (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/master/x86_64/kernel-xen.rpm) I also happen to know the kernel is more recent then my 2.6.26-2-amd64 kernel in Debian Lenny. I am aware that I will be giving up the Debian specific patches applied to the kernel. I quess I just hope to not run into issue there. If the kernel.org kernels can work with Debian I don't see a reason why the SUSE kernel can not work with a Debian system either. I would like the ability to use the ext4 filesystem as well as better hardware support/modules for the e1000e network driver and lastly for better SATA/RAID support. -M Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:59:32 -0500 From: zlinux...@wowway.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:58:06 -0500 (EST), Mike Viau wrote: Hello Debian community, I have been looking for a guide to convert an rpm package (specifically a kernel - ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/master/x86_64/kernel-xen.rpm) over into a deb binary or even a tarball will work for me. Unfortunately my internet searches are resulting in very old means to accomplish this task. http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/debian/sarge/kern2deb/ http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-extract-an-rpm-package-without-installing-it.html I have tried alien -t myrpmfile.rpm and rpm2cpio myrpmfile.rpm | cpio -idmv with no success. Therefore I was hoping someone could devise a quick how to for making recent rpm based kernels into a debian binary. Your time with this matter would be GREATLY appreciated! As you have discovered, there is an alien package for dealing with rpm packages, but it is MUCH MUCH better to install a native Debian package, ESPECIALLY if it is a kernel. What specific real-world problem are you trying to solve? Why is a Debian stock kernel not adequate? Is there some kernel option that is enabled in the Redhat kernel that is not enabled in the Debian kernel? Is the Redhat kernel based on a release of the Linux kernel that is not available in Debian? If you need to build a custom kernel in Debian, I would recommend http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm That happens to be my own web page and I am in the process of updating it even as I write this e-mail, but my changes haven't been moved into production yet. I guess the basic question to be answered, though, is why you think you need this specific kernel from a Redhat system installed on a Debian system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org _ Introducing Windows® phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708122
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
Mike Viau put forth on 2/8/2010 1:24 PM: If the kernel.org kernels can work with Debian I don't see a reason why the SUSE kernel can not work with a Debian system either. I do. The files available from kernel.org are source, not binary. They are vanilla. Properly configured and built, a kernel.org kernel will work with any distro atop. The SuSE kernel you want is a binary, built specifically for the SuSE distribution. If it's anything like the SLES/SLED kernels, it includes every Linux module, the kitchen sink, and the entire kitchen as well. I would like the ability to use the ext4 filesystem as well as better hardware support/modules for the e1000e network driver and lastly for better SATA/RAID support. XFS is better than ext4, esp for virtualization. e1000 and RAID/SATA support are menuconfig check boxes, as are all the features you want. You are a prime candidate for building your own kernel, based on requirements. But, maybe you aren't technically up to the task? I'm currently running kernel.org 2.6.31.1 (i686), Lenny on top, with SMP EXT2/3 XFS megaraid libata, sata_sil PIIX_IDE e100 netfilter etc not as modules, all built into the kernel, no initrd, and it's small and fast: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.5M Jan 15 04:06 vmlinuz-2.6.31.1 Maybe it's too easy for me to say build your own kernel, it's easy. I've been doing my own kernels since around 2002, so I've had some practice. And I did make mistakes along the way. Good learning experiences, all. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:24:06 -0500 (EST), Mike Viau wrote: Very fair question. I need the xen patches that are incorperated in the kernel. +1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8 (ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/master/x86_64/kernel-xen.rpm) I also happen to know the kernel is more recent then my 2.6.26-2-amd64 kernel in Debian Lenny. I am aware that I will be giving up the Debian specific patches applied to the kernel. I quess I just hope to not run into issue there. If the kernel.org kernels can work with Debian I don't see a reason why the SUSE kernel can not work with a Debian system either. I would like the ability to use the ext4 filesystem as well as better hardware support/modules for the e1000e network driver and lastly for better SATA/RAID support. A few logistical items first: 1. Please don't top post but rather use the usenet (bottom post) style of quoting. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting#Top-posting for more information. 2. Please try to keep your source lines to under 80 columns. For further mailing list policy rules see http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/. OK, there are two main issues here. First, why am I trying to discourage you from using alien (or some other similar tool) to import a foreign package into Debian? For that I refer you to the Debian FAQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-compat.en.html#s-otherpackages The second issue. If you need a newer kernel than the 2.6.26 kernel used by the stable release (Lenny), there are a couple of options. If you are satisfied with the stable system except for the kernel, and want a newer kernel, I suggest you try a newer kernel from http://www.backports.org Currently, there are 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 kernels available in backports. If you want all the packages on your system at a newer level, you might consider the testing (Squeeze) system. It currently has 2.6.30 and 2.6.32 kernels. But all the packages, not just the kernel, are newer. We don't recommend this release for production use, but if you must use hardware that is not supported by the stable release, sometimes this is your only option. If you want to live really dangerously, and run the latest bleeding edge code, you might try the unstable (Sid) release. Be prepared for things to break. Debian has always been a trailing edge distribution as far as its stable release is concerned. We are more oriented towards stability and reliability than we are with including the latest new thing as soon as possible. If you want to run Debian and you want the latest new thing, you're going to need to go with the testing or even unstable, in some cases. But beware. testing and unstable are called that for a reason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Monday 08 February 2010 14:01:26 Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:24:06 -0500 (EST), Mike Viau wrote: I need the xen patches that are incorperated in the kernel. I also happen to know the kernel is more recent then my 2.6.26-2-amd64 kernel in Debian Lenny. The second issue. If you need a newer kernel than the 2.6.26 kernel used by the stable release (Lenny), there are a couple of options. If you are satisfied with the stable system except for the kernel, and want a newer kernel, I suggest you try a newer kernel from http://www.backports.org If you want all the packages on your system at a newer level, you might consider the testing (Squeeze) system. If you want to live really dangerously, and run the latest bleeding edge code, you might try the unstable (Sid) release. Be prepared for things to break. b...@monster:~% apt-cache policy | grep release release a=now release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=experimental,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=unstable,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=testing,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,a=stable,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main release v=None,o=Backports.org archive,a=lenny-backports,l=Backports.org archive,c=non-free release v=None,o=Backports.org archive,a=lenny-backports,l=Backports.org archive,c=contrib release v=None,o=Backports.org archive,a=lenny-backports,l=Backports.org archive,c=main release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=non-free release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=contrib release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=main release v=None,o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free release v=None,o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib release v=None,o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian-Security,c=main release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=main release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=non-free release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=contrib release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=main release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=non-free release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=contrib release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=main release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=non-free release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=contrib release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian,c=main release v=5.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=non-free release v=5.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=contrib release v=5.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=main b...@monster:~% aptitude search xen-amd64 p aufs-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Stackable unification filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AM p aufs-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64- Stackable unification filesystem for Linux 2.6.26 on p drbd8-modules-2.6-xen-amd64- RAID 1 over TCP/IP for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 p drbd8-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - RAID 1 over TCP/IP for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 p ipw2100-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 (ipw2100) driver modules for p ipw2100-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 (ipw2100) driver modules for p ipw2200-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915ABG (ipw2200) driver p ipw2200-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915ABG (ipw2200) driver p ipw3945-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (ipw3945) driver modules p ipw3945-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (ipw3945) driver modules p iscsitarget-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - iSCSI Enterprise Target for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 p iscsitarget-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - iSCSI Enterprise Target for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 p ivtv-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - driver for the iTVC15 family of MPEG codecs modules p ivtv-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64- driver for the iTVC15 family of MPEG codecs modules p linux-headers-2.6-xen-amd64- Header files for Linux 2.6- xen-amd64 p linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 p linux-headers-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 p linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support p linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support p linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.26 image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support p linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux image on AMD64, oldstyle Xen support v
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Monday 08 February 2010 14:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I thought there were also some possible trademark issues with newer Xen releases, so it's possible there's some delay there as well. Bug 391935 -- Done (not an issue) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:46:44 -0500 (EST), Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I have stable, backports, testing, unstable, and even experimental. Sorry, DDs have not yet packaged anything newer than 2.6.26 that includes the Xen patches. I thought there were also some possible trademark issues with newer Xen releases, so it's possible there's some delay there as well. I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing about xen (isn't that a particular sect of Buddhism? :-) ) but it looks to me like the xen kernel patches have been mainstreamed since 2.6.26. See, for example, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-patch-debian-2.6.32 According to this web page, the xen patches are already included in the Debian kernel source tree for 2.6.32. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:28:59 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: I'll be the first to admit that I know nothing about xen (isn't that a particular sect of Buddhism? :-) ) but it looks to me like the xen kernel patches have been mainstreamed since 2.6.26. See, for example, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-patch-debian-2.6.32 I guess I'm getting old and can't see. I just rechecked that page and there's nothing in it about xen. ?! Maybe I need to get my eyes checked. Sorry for the false lead. The list of files contained in this package http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/linux-patch-debian-2.6.32/filelist does contain one hit on the character string xen, which is /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/2.6.32/debian/features/all/module-firmware/0001-netxen-module-firmware-hints.patch.bz2 but that doesn't appear to be what we're looking for. My apologies once again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
From: b...@iguanasuicide.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:07:01 -0600 On Monday 08 February 2010 14:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I thought there were also some possible trademark issues with newer Xen releases, so it's possible there's some delay there as well. Bug 391935 -- Done (not an issue) Interesting, I didn't realize Xensource felt so particular about the Xen name. I guess it shouldn't have been a surprise. Boyd you really hit the nail on the head with regards to using Debian as a XEN Dom0 server. Stephen Powell wrote: If you are satisfied with the stable system except for the kernel, and want a newer kernel, I suggest you try a newer kernel from http://www.backports.org Currently, there are 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 kernels available in backports. Using the later Debian backport kernels will assist with drivers and modules but does not solve my problem with running a XEN Dom0. Thank you for the suggestion, and might I suggest that you add a walkthrough on your website for Debian users looking to use the stable Debian universal operating system with newer hardware. Stan Hoeppner wrote: If the kernel.org kernels can work with Debian I don't see a reason why the SUSE kernel can not work with a Debian system either. I do. The files available from kernel.org are source, not binary. They are vanilla. Properly configured and built, a kernel.org kernel will work with any distro atop. The SuSE kernel you want is a binary, built specifically for the SuSE distribution. If it's anything like the SLES/SLED kernels, it includes every Linux module, the kitchen sink, and the entire kitchen as well. Agreed I never took into consideration that the package was binary rather than source. That said I was hoping to create a deb binary that will contain the binary files (linux-image - /boot /lib/modules) from the rpm and install them correctly. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ -M _ Introducing Windows® phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708122
Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:44:23 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: I guess I'm getting old and can't see. ... OK, let's try again. I did find this package http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xen-hypervisor-3.4-amd64 But this is the hypervisor only, not the dom0 kernel that needs to go with it. I also found this thread on the debian-devel mailing list archive for January of 2010: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00033.html Keep following the thread with the Thread Next link. It may provide some useful information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
RE: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:17:37 -0500 From: zlinux...@wowway.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Looking for: A quick how to make a deb from a (kernel) rpm On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:44:23 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: I guess I'm getting old and can't see. ... OK, let's try again. I did find this package http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xen-hypervisor-3.4-amd64 I have already created a xen-hypervisor-3.4.2-amd64 deb binary, but I trust the work of the Debian community more then mine :) But this is the hypervisor only, not the dom0 kernel that needs to go with it. I also found this thread on the debian-devel mailing list archive for January of 2010: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00033.html Thank you! I believe you have found me a solution for a dom0 kernel, although it does not involve splitting open the rpm packages. I will know when I get some time to read up on git kernel tree revision control. On http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2010-01/msg00592.html Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: By the way they now have a gitorious mirror so there is no need to download rpm's and extract the patches from them. http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kernel-source/commits/master If my assumptions are correct I should be able to download a snapshot of a supported kernel source from kernel.org and patches (to xenify) the source code from the git tree. After compiling the patched source code into a -xen kernel I will make a binary deb package. Keep following the thread with the Thread Next link. It may provide some useful information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -M _
How to make a .deb...
Hi, I have compiled 2 programs that are not available on the package list and would like to know the process of making it into a .deb and then the process for contribing to the package list for that matter... -matt -- Matt Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.duhnet.net http://www.mattchapman.net
Re: How to make a .deb...
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:13:38AM -0400, Chapman, Matt wrote: Hi, I have compiled 2 programs that are not available on the package list and would like to know the process of making it into a .deb and then the process for contribing to the package list for that matter... I would start here - http://www.debian.org/devel/ kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: How to make a .deb...
check dh_make and dh_* They make it quite easy to make packages At 09:13 a.m. 06/07/01 -0400, Chapman, Matt wrote: .deb
