Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
eh, i almost make myself into looking for 'free SCO'... :) -- k h a o s * lamer new name, new look, new ftp: linux.dyn.dhs.org (change FOUR letter) upload something before downloading, or your class C IP banned. - Original Message - From: "Frans Schreuder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Raffaele Sandrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: Re: How to set up a "prefect" router > www.freesco.org; min requirements: i386; 6Mb > You can have a lot of services (insecure and stuff) but it'll exceed the > min. specs. Kernel=2.0.38 > > Thanks > > Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? > Do i > > have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best > 2.2? > > 2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers. > > > > cheers, > > Raffaele > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
www.freesco.org; min requirements: i386; 6Mb You can have a lot of services (insecure and stuff) but it'll exceed the min. specs. Kernel=2.0.38 Thanks > Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Do i > have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best 2.2? > 2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers. > > cheers, > Raffaele
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
I'd not go through the BIOS rom, I'd go through the NIC. Less chance of losing hundred$ of dollars of silicon. AMD Lance, Intel EE16, and some NE2K's had onboard PROMS for ISA; NE2K-PCI, 10bt Tulips, and most early PCI cards had them as well, but they rapidly became extinct. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Mike Pfleger wrote: >On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:02:54PM -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > >> I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for >> you. Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and >> (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot. > > >Sorry to intrude, but this last bit was too good to pass up! I have access >to DATA I/O burner that will happily do EPROMs like those Award's BIOS came >on in those older MBs. Where are docs on how to muck with this to make an >intelligent ROM boot (like Sun hdwr does)? > >TIA, >Mike > > > -- The early worm gets the bird. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
I'm afraid I have to suggest Smoothwall :-) Boots of a CD to install (or floppy or network install if needed) and gives you a nice modem/isdn/ethernet firewall (take your pick), web front end for management, and it's not such a huge download for an ISO (around 22M). Of course if you just want a plain router and not a firewall then I would look at the Linux Router Project. --- Paul Tansom:Talking to penguins can be inTUXicating, whereas talking to windows is only 1 step away from talking to the wall! --- Smoothwall firewall/router project: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Smoothwall project community contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > Hi > > I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a > Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. > What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? > Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? > > cheers, > Raffaele > -- > Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net" > ID is: 0xEC4950E9 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
Wayne Topa uttered: > > Subject: Re: How to set up a "prefect" router > Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:16:30AM +0200 > > In reply to:Raffaele Sandrini > > Quoting Raffaele Sandrini([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > > > > Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Check out http://www.linuxrouter.org/ My advice: - If you're routing ethernet to ethernet, use the same card so that you only need one NIC module. perfectly. - Consider the fact you could get a used 1 GB drive for <$25, this could be a router/mailserver/mini-website. Linux runs great on a older CPUs, just don't try to do extreme development or run X. - Check out http://www.linuxrouter.org/ - If you do pull the hard drive, don't pull it until you've got the floppy boot working. GL, PM
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
Subject: Re: How to set up a "prefect" router Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:16:30AM +0200 In reply to:Raffaele Sandrini Quoting Raffaele Sandrini([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > > I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite > > period. I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :). > > In that case, consider not using the harddrive. Along with the > > power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system, > > and well past its prime. > > > > I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for > > you. Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and > > (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot. > > > > Mik > > Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Do i > have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best 2.2? > 2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers. The Linux Router Project (www.lrp.org) ahd i disk routers using the 2.2.x and, IIFC 2.4.x kernels. -- Windows: the ultimate triumph of marketing over technology. ___
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > Hi > > I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a > Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. > What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? > Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? > > I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite period. I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :). In that case, consider not using the harddrive. Along with the power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system, and well past its prime. I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for you. Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot. Mike
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a > Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. > What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? > Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? My 386sx20 works fine here, running almost current distribution. It has 16Mbyte ram, 120 Mbyte disk of which 32Mbyte is swap, a crummy old ne2000 clone, a modem and an isdn card. It is mostly used as a mail gateway and also as a fallback for another router with a cablemodem. Upgrading it is a little tricky, because there is not enough space to hold all the packages, so I have to use nfs for that. It is disabled in normal init runlevel, but enabled in level 3 and up. So when I want to upgrade, I disable outward connections and enable nfs by making init switch to runlevel 3. After upgrade, the machine is set to runlevel 2 again. To win more space for the mail spool, I also do rm -rf /usr/share/doc/*/* after upgrades. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joost --> [515] $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : unknown cpu family : 3 model : 0 model name : unknown stepping: unknown fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no sep_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : no fpu_exception : no cpuid level : -1 wp : no flags : bogomips: 3.28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/joost --> [516] $ uptime 7:25pm up 173 days, 1:01, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 173 days since the machine was moved into a another closet. Cheers, Joost
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > I assume you want to set it up and have it just work, for an indefinite > period. I also assume that if it breaks, *you* have to fix it :). > In that case, consider not using the harddrive. Along with the > power supply and fans, it is the least reliable component in the system, > and well past its prime. > > I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for > you. Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and > (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot. > > Mik Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Do i have to make one by myself. If yes - how? Wich kernel whould be the best 2.2? 2.4? I heared that 2.4 doesn't work very well with old computers. cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net" ID is: 0xEC4950E9
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:57:44PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote: > > Sorry to intrude, but this last bit was too good to pass up! I have access > to DATA I/O burner that will happily do EPROMs like those Award's BIOS came > on in those older MBs. Where are docs on how to muck with this to make an > intelligent ROM boot (like Sun hdwr does)? > http://sunsite.utk.edu/ftp/pub/linux/LDP/HOWTO/Diskless-HOWTO-8.html is a good starting point. (You may want to pick an LDP mirror closer to you, utk=Knoxville, TN). I think there may be a helpful doc or 2 in the kernel source tree also. Have fun Mike
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
also sprach Raffaele Sandrini (on Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:33:49PM +0200): > I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a > Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. > What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? > Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? i have just done that. how much RAM do you have? i wouldn't start with less than 16Mb. and yes, i use the 2.4.6 kernels and it works like a charm. is this modem or ISDN or DSL routing? martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- dimmi in 10 secondi i nomi dei 7 re di roma, in ordine decrescente di data di morte del figlio secondogenito, in rot13... o faccio fuori la directory /dev !!! pgp9g02BnwsMs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 02:02:54PM -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > I think some kind of 1 floppy linux, as you mentioned, might work fine for > you. Other possibilities are floppy based tftp (aka diskless) boot and > (if you have access to a burner) eprom based tftp boot. Sorry to intrude, but this last bit was too good to pass up! I have access to DATA I/O burner that will happily do EPROMs like those Award's BIOS came on in those older MBs. Where are docs on how to muck with this to make an intelligent ROM boot (like Sun hdwr does)? TIA, Mike
How to set up a "prefect" router
Hi I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net" ID is: 0xEC4950E9
How to set up a "prefect" router
Hi I have an old 486 DX33Mhz PC. I'd like to set it up as a router. It has a Ethernetcard, 250MB HDD and no CDROM. What is importatnt to look at? Should i use a 1 floppy Linux? If yes wichone? Should i use debian? Is it important to use kern2.4? Other usful tipps? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net" ID is: 0xEC4950E9
