Re: How to unsubscribe

2005-05-02 Thread Michael Marsh 
On 5/2/05, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No unscribe sig from that one. Using mutt.

I was able to pin down the date when Gmail screwed things up to a
period of a few days.  I've reported it as a bug to them, but who
knows if they'll do anything about it.  There's also an argument to be
made that SmartList should handle this sort of situation better.

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Re: How to unsubscribe

2005-05-02 Thread Chris Bannister 
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 08:08:59PM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On 4/27/05, Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This unsigned mail did get the unsubscribe option at the bottom. That
> > is true for all three unsigned mails in my inbox now. And all two
> > signed mails don't have the addition. It's a small basis for any bold
> > statements, but I do see a pattern here. :)
> 
> Um, we've been through this before, and recently at that.  The
> unsubscribe instructions are always at the bottom of a message, but if
> there's any sort of attachment many clients fail to show it.  If you
> look at the raw message contents, you'll see it.
> 
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No unscribe sig from that one. Using mutt.
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Re: How to unsubscribe

2003-07-18 Thread Paul Johnson 
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:01:11PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> Actually there's also a nice script that is a debian package called
> fetchyahoo that allows you to download your yahoo mail onto your
> computer. So you can kind of use it as a pop server. With this running
> every hour you don't even have to worry about the 6 meg limit.

Yeah.  It's also nice to see that Yahoo isn't trying to break this,
nor is Yahoo spamming or underhandedly selling user info anymore from
what I can tell.

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Re: How to unsubscribe

2003-07-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani 
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I started having the same problem, I switched to Yahoo! for several
> reasons:
> 
> -6 MB of space in the mail box (only 2 MB from Hotmail)
> -Not owned by MS
> 
> OK, only two reasons, but good enough for me.

Actually there's also a nice script that is a debian package called
fetchyahoo that allows you to download your yahoo mail onto your
computer. So you can kind of use it as a pop server. With this running
every hour you don't even have to worry about the 6 meg limit.

Bijan


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Re: How to unsubscribe

2003-07-18 Thread Florian Ernst 
Hello Jianan!

Jianan Huang wrote:
> This is non-technical but I really need to sort this out. I love to
> read stuff from this mail list. The trouble is that my hotmail box
> is overflowing and it does not allow "select all and delete" (the
> trouble with free stuff). Twice I have unsubscribed but
> unsuccessfully it seems. How exactly should I do it?

Hmm, you don't get the footer?

Here it says:
/---
|To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Or use the webform at
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe
Make sure you use the address which is subscribed to the list.

HTH,
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Re: How to unsubscribe

2003-07-18 Thread Roberto Sanchez 
 --- Jianan Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> Hi folks,
> 
> This is non-technical but I really need to sort this out. I love to read 
> stuff from this mail list. The trouble is that my hotmail box is overflowing 
> and it does not allow "select all and delete" (the trouble with free stuff). 
> Twice I have unsubscribed but unsuccessfully it seems. How exactly should I 
> do it?
> 
> Have a nice weekend.
> 

When I started having the same problem, I switched to Yahoo! for several
reasons:

-6 MB of space in the mail box (only 2 MB from Hotmail)
-Not owned by MS

OK, only two reasons, but good enough for me.

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How to unsubscribe

2003-07-18 Thread Jianan Huang 
Hi folks,

This is non-technical but I really need to sort this out. I love to read 
stuff from this mail list. The trouble is that my hotmail box is overflowing 
and it does not allow "select all and delete" (the trouble with free stuff). 
Twice I have unsubscribed but unsuccessfully it seems. How exactly should I 
do it?

Have a nice weekend.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread Jamin W. Collins 
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 07:48:57PM -0500, David wrote:

> I'm beginning to believe that mine really does come in as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than in the bounce form.

I see the bounce entry in my qmail logs, but that's the only place it
exists.  Once the message has made it to my user's Maildir, it's gone.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread David 
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:17:15PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:31:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> > 
> > Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> > Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
> >   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> > by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
> > id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> > Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> At least three other places come to mind where the From-bounce header
> should show up (it does here, as well as in mutt):
> 
> - Raw mbox

Here's the complete header for this message, read from my mbox file as
saved by exim:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 06 18:08:08 2003
Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost)
by localhost.localdomain with esmtp (Exim 4.10 #1 (Debian))
id 19OQIA-9v-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 18:06:38 -0500
Received: from mail.duo-county.com [66.38.0.203]
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Received: from psmtp.com (exprod6mx3.postini.com [12.158.35.143])
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> - Procmail log
> - MTA log (exim here)

And here's an exim log entry for an email coming from this list:

2003-06-06 18:08:05 19OQJZ-9v-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost.localdomain 
(localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=4315 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> If it's not there, it's really not there.

Well.. from the log entry, especically, you'd think so.

In my case, Exim sorts my mail using ~/.forward..  I'd wondered if Exim
might be rewriting the From header, perhaps in the process of forwarding
the mail, but it would seem that the log entry above would be showing
the bounce=address..

I'm beginning to believe that mine really does come in as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than in the bounce form.


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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread Vineet Kumar 
* Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030605 22:53]:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:02:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:57:48PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > > FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.
> > 
> > OK, here's the headers I got from your message...the very first line
> > of the headers is rarely inaccurate unless we're dealing with spam.

Just to be pedantic, it's not really the first line of the headers.
It's actually envelope information, which may or may not (depending on
the MTA and its configuration) appear in the message once it's been
delivered.  Generally, yes, it is stuck on the top of the message on a
line starting with "From ", especially for mbox deliveries.

> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 05 21:16:39 2003
> > Received: from mail by ursine.ca with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
> > id 19O8ec-0001Sy-00
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700
> 
> Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> 
> Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
>   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
> id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail generally puts this info in Return-Path:.  You don't necessarily
have an mbox "From " line unless you're delivering to an mbox (and even
then, it's not necessarily correct; for example, some fetchmail
(mis?)configurations have been known to clobber it).  My exim setup
doesn't include "From " lines at all in Maildir deliveries, but I do
have it add a few headers with the envelope information:

Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 22:53:33 -0700

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread David 
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:49:42AM +0100, Patrick Beard wrote:

> >What's the first line of the headers look like?  For me, it says 
> >- From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Yep - same here;
> - From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is something strange..  I don't get this in any of my list mails.
It seems that I used to get this, but not in any of the ones I now have.
The first line in this message, for example, is:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 05 16:23:06 2003

and grepping the mailbox file shows only lines in the body, as the
above..  I wonder why mine doesn't have this?  I've unsubscribed and
resubscribed a few times.. but, in my whole experience, AFAICT, only a
_few_ of my list mails have had lines with the bounce- header..  I don't
think that it's a matter of local header editing.. part of the time I
use fetchmail sending it through exim, and other times, I download
directly from my ISP with KMail, but none of the mails in either
database show this header.


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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread Nicolas Kratz 
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:31:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> 
> Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
>   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
> id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At least three other places come to mind where the From-bounce header
should show up (it does here, as well as in mutt):

- Raw mbox
- Procmail log
- MTA log (exim here)

If it's not there, it's really not there.

HTH,
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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-06 Thread Kevin McKinley 
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:34:37 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Show *all* the headers, then.  AFAIK, mutt and mail are the only
> programs that doesn't still hide headers when you tell it to display
> everything.  It's the *very* first header, above the received lines.

Sylpheed also shows all headers if you ask it nicely. :)

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Jamin W. Collins 
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:02:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:57:48PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.
> 
> OK, here's the headers I got from your message...the very first line
> of the headers is rarely inaccurate unless we're dealing with spam.
> 
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 05 21:16:39 2003
> Received: from mail by ursine.ca with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
> id 19O8ec-0001Sy-00
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700

Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:

Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
  by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Jamin W. Collins 
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:01:06PM +0800, Miranda, Joel Louie M wrote:
> List-Unsubscribe:
> 

If you'd been following the thread, you would know that this is *not*
the header that was being discussed.  

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson 
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:57:48PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.

OK, here's the headers I got from your message...the very first line
of the headers is rarely inaccurate unless we're dealing with spam.

- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 05 21:16:39 2003
Received: from mail by ursine.ca with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
id 19O8ec-0001Sy-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700
Received: from murphy.debian.org ([146.82.138.6])
by ursine.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
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Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
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RE: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Miranda, Joel Louie M 
List-Unsubscribe:
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Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe?


On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:34:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:51:42PM -0500, David wrote:
> > This is something strange..  I don't get this in any of my list 
> > mails.
> 
> Show *all* the headers, then.  AFAIK, mutt and mail are the only 
> programs that doesn't still hide headers when you tell it to display 
> everything.  It's the *very* first header, above the received lines.

FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.

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RE: How to unsubscribe? (long)

2003-06-05 Thread Patrick Beard 
>Could you post the full headers of a sample message you're receiving and
>the unsubscribe message you sent?
>
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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Jamin W. Collins 
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:34:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:51:42PM -0500, David wrote:
> > This is something strange..  I don't get this in any of my list mails.
> 
> Show *all* the headers, then.  AFAIK, mutt and mail are the only
> programs that doesn't still hide headers when you tell it to display
> everything.  It's the *very* first header, above the received lines.

FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson 
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:51:42PM -0500, David wrote:
> This is something strange..  I don't get this in any of my list mails.

Show *all* the headers, then.  AFAIK, mutt and mail are the only
programs that doesn't still hide headers when you tell it to display
everything.  It's the *very* first header, above the received lines.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Colin Watson 
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:35:52AM +0100, Patrick Beard wrote:
> I'm trying to unsubscribe this email address from this list because of
> my mail server adding the disclaimer.
> However all attempts to be removed have failed. I tried
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> four times now but after replying to the confirm message I get no
> response but the messages keep coming. I sent a message to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] but heard nothing and the messages keep
> coming.
> How can I unsubscribe?

Could you post the full headers of a sample message you're receiving and
the unsubscribe message you sent?

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RE: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Patrick Beard 
>> four times now but after replying to the confirm message I get no
response
>> but
>> the messages keep coming. 

>What's the first line of the headers look like?  For me, it says 
>- From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yep - same here;
- From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Again apologies to the list for the disclaimer.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson 
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:35:52AM +0100, Patrick Beard wrote:
> I'm trying to unsubscribe this email address from this list because of my
> mail server adding the disclaimer.
> However all attempts to be removed have failed. I tried
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> four times now but after replying to the confirm message I get no response
> but
> the messages keep coming. 

What's the first line of the headers look like?  For me, it says 
- From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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How to unsubscribe?

2003-06-05 Thread Patrick Beard 
Hi,
I'm trying to unsubscribe this email address from this list because of my
mail server adding the disclaimer.
However all attempts to be removed have failed. I tried
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
four times now but after replying to the confirm message I get no response
but
the messages keep coming. I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but
heard nothing and the messages keep coming.
How can I unsubscribe?

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Re: how to unsubscribe??

2002-09-01 Thread David 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 08:42:31PM -0400, Jeff Maxson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:32:45AM -0700, Craig Dickson happened to mention:
> > Larry Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > How do I unsubscribe from this group?
> > 
> > This text appears at the bottom of every message on this list:
> > 
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> One common thread that I've noticed on these "can't unsubscribe" notes
> is that the people having the problem often are on yahoo or the like.
> These services always stick on the tag-line.  Would that mess up the
> auto-list stuff?

Even so, the unsubscribe address is also in the header.  In fact, with
a graphical reader, such as KMail, just clicking View -> Show full
headers, and then clicking on that mailto address will generate the
message with Unsubscribe in the subject and all you have to do is click
Send and it's done


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Re: how to unsubscribe??

2002-08-31 Thread Jeff Maxson 


On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:32:45AM -0700, Craig Dickson happened to mention:
> Larry Smith wrote:
> 
> > The email I received from this group when I joined
> > indicated a method to unsubscribe -- which doesn't
> > work.
> > 
> > 
> > How do I unsubscribe from this group?
> 
> This text appears at the bottom of every message on this list:
> 
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Is that what you did? I've done it before, and it worked. Are you
> sending the unsubscribe message from the account that is subscribed?
> It won't work if you're sending it from somewhere else.

One common thread that I've noticed on these "can't unsubscribe" notes
is that the people having the problem often are on yahoo or the like.
These services always stick on the tag-line.  Would that mess up the
auto-list stuff?  Someone said that putting "STOP" on the last line of
the request forces the list program to ignore everything else in the
note.  Would that be helpful?

Just checking,
Jeff

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Re: how to unsubscribe??

2002-08-31 Thread Craig Dickson 

Larry Smith wrote:

> The email I received from this group when I joined
> indicated a method to unsubscribe -- which doesn't
> work.
> 
> 
> How do I unsubscribe from this group?

This text appears at the bottom of every message on this list:

> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is that what you did? I've done it before, and it worked. Are you
sending the unsubscribe message from the account that is subscribed?
It won't work if you're sending it from somewhere else.

Did you attempt to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

When you say it "doesn't work", what happened? Did you get any response
from the list server at all?

Craig


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how to unsubscribe??

2002-08-31 Thread Larry Smith 

The email I received from this group when I joined
indicated a method to unsubscribe -- which doesn't
work.


How do I unsubscribe from this group?


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Re: How to unsubscribe? (solved)

2002-05-27 Thread Colin Watson 
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 02:18:07PM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > If you think another address might have been used, try saying
> > 'unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever rather than
> > 'unsubscribe'.
> 
> That worked! At least I got a message that said I was removed from the
> list. But who knows... I will see in a couple of minutes, I think.
> 
> Thank you very much, Colin.

I hope it continues to work. :) Cc'ed to you directly, as assuming it
worked you won't see the reply otherwise.

> (The solution looks trivial, I know. But sometimes it is hard to see the
> forest if the view is blocked by trees (or how do you say this in
> English?))

Much like that. "Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees" would
be the usual phrasing.

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Re: How to unsubscribe? (solved)

2002-05-27 Thread Jan Exss 
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> If you think another address might have been used, try saying
> 'unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever rather than
> 'unsubscribe'.

That worked! At least I got a message that said I was removed from the
list. But who knows... I will see in a couple of minutes, I think.

Thank you very much, Colin.

(The solution looks trivial, I know. But sometimes it is hard to see the
forest if the view is blocked by trees (or how do you say this in
English?))

Jan.


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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2002-05-27 Thread Colin Watson 
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:13:28AM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2002, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > Have you got multiple email addresses, e.g. automatic forwarding from
> > one email address to another? This might confuse the issue (i.e. make
> > sure that you unsubscribe the correct one ...). You probably checked
> > this already, but better safe than sorry.
> 
> My official address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But there are several aliases that our computing center is using:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am sending email with my MTA directly from my virtual machine. The email
> address is then changed by exim to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Well, the listmaster could just remove everyhting that looks like
> "*exss*gpi.uni-karlsruhe.de". Listmaster: Do you hear me?

It's rather unlikely that the listmasters would see this message unless
you explicitly cc them (listmaster at lists.debian.org). Even then there
is a long backlog.

If you think another address might have been used, try saying
'unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]' or whatever rather than
'unsubscribe'.

> > > WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST? Sending an email
> > > to that list, every hour or every minute? Well, it is an option,
> > > at least. I also could send this mail every day, but double the
> > > number of copies every day. What's 2 powerd by 365 again?

That would have absolutely zero useful effect beyond causing complaints
to your university, so I don't recommend throwing a tantrum in this way.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2002-05-27 Thread Jan Exss 
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

> On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:26:00AM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, every time I get another message that says:
> >
> > > You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list.
> >
> > I contacted the listmaster and he told me that he finaly removed my name
> > from the list.
> >
>
> Have you got multiple email addresses, e.g. automatic forwarding from
> one email address to another? This might confuse the issue (i.e. make
> sure that you unsubscribe the correct one ...). You probably checked
> this already, but better safe than sorry.
>

My official address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But there are several aliases that our computing center is using:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am sending email with my MTA directly from my virtual machine. The email
address is then changed by exim to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, the listmaster could just remove everyhting that looks like
"*exss*gpi.uni-karlsruhe.de". Listmaster: Do you hear me?

> >
> > WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST? Sending an email to that
> > list, every hour or every minute? Well, it is an option, at least. I also
> > could send this mail every day, but double the number of copies every day.
> > What's 2 powerd by 365 again?
>
> According to :
> $ echo '2 ^ 365' | bc
>
> Something like this (slightly reformatted)
> 75.153.362.648.762.663.292.463.379.097.258.784.876.021.841.565.066.235.862.633.311.089.030.688.803.667.470.190.838.367.948.312.598.497.021.919.232
>

I am not sure whether exim can handle that many emails per day...

> Karl E. Jørgensen

Jan


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Re: How to unsubscribe?

2002-05-27 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen 
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:26:00AM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Since a long time (more than one week) I try to unsubscribe from that
> list. I sent several email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Everytime I do that, I get a confirmation email. I reply to that email to
> confirm the remove from the list.
> 
> Unfortunately, every time I get another message that says:
> 
> > You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list.
> 
> I contacted the listmaster and he told me that he finaly removed my name
> from the list.
> 
> BUT I AM STILL RECEIVING MAILS from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
> informed the listmaster about that, but he did not respond.

Looks like you did the right thing...

Have you got multiple email addresses, e.g. automatic forwarding from
one email address to another? This might confuse the issue (i.e. make
sure that you unsubscribe the correct one ...). You probably checked
this already, but better safe than sorry.

> 
> WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST? Sending an email to that
> list, every hour or every minute? Well, it is an option, at least. I also
> could send this mail every day, but double the number of copies every day.
> What's 2 powerd by 365 again?

According to :
$ echo '2 ^ 365' | bc

Something like this (slightly reformatted)
75.153.362.648.762.663.292.463.379.097.258.784.876.021.841.565.066.235.862.633.311.089.030.688.803.667.470.190.838.367.948.312.598.497.021.919.232
 

= infinity as far as I am concerned.

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How to unsubscribe?

2002-05-27 Thread Jan Exss 

Hi!

Since a long time (more than one week) I try to unsubscribe from that
list. I sent several email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Everytime I do that, I get a confirmation email. I reply to that email to
confirm the remove from the list.

Unfortunately, every time I get another message that says:

> You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list.

I contacted the listmaster and he told me that he finaly removed my name
from the list.

BUT I AM STILL RECEIVING MAILS from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
informed the listmaster about that, but he did not respond.

WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO BE REMOVED FROM THAT LIST? Sending an email to that
list, every hour or every minute? Well, it is an option, at least. I also
could send this mail every day, but double the number of copies every day.
What's 2 powerd by 365 again?

Don't get me wrong, but all that email makes me mad, seriously. Please
help!

Jan.


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