Re: IBM xSeries 335 and XFree86

2004-06-24 Thread Roberto Sanchez 
Simon Buchanan wrote:
Hi John,
Dont you still need an X windows server? How do you run vnc and a window
manager without a x-windows server?
The X server is what displays the X client to your display device.
Thus you can run VNC or individual X applications on a remote machine
(that has no X server running) and have it display on the X server
on your workstation.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: IBM xSeries 335 and XFree86

2004-06-23 Thread Simon Buchanan 
Hi John,

Dont you still need an X windows server? How do you run vnc and a window
manager without a x-windows server?

- Original Message - 
From: "John Summerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Simon Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: IBM xSeries 335 and XFree86


> Simon Buchanan wrote:
>
> >Hi There,
> >
> >can someone please help me... Im going MAD. Im trying to install Oracle
on
> >an IBM xSeries 335. Todo so the Oracle installer needs X to run. I have
run
> >apt-get xserver etc etc etc and run thru the config It just wont run.
> >Here is the XFree86-4 file:
> >
> >
> >This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
> >way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
> >to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
> >please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
> >(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)
> >
> >
> >
> On servers and small boxes I like to run vnc, and for a wm my current
> favourite is fvwm.
>
> This provides these advantages over your approach:
> 1. You don't get to fight XFree86 configurations
> 2. You can run headless.
> 3. You can also run sans keyboard and mouse so avoiding the perils of
> hotplugging non-hotpluggable devices (or trying to hide a keyboard).
> 4, You get to specify the screen size you want. For example, this gives
> a desktop that's usable via modem.
> vncserver -geometry 800x600
>
> On a good desktop, it's just a small window.
>
> The vnc protocol isn't considered especially secure, but you can tunnel
> ports with ssh:
> ssh -L8080:127.0.0.1:25 example.com
> telnet 127.0.0.1 8080
> You would expect to be greeted by an MTA on example.com: example.com
> would see you as connecting from 127.0.0.1.
>
> Change the port number appropriately and you can talk to Xvnc.
>
> You can also get the desktop up in any Java-capable browser, even
> Internet Exploder. Connect to your server in Maine from an internet cafe
> in the Bahamas:-)
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: IBM xSeries 335 and XFree86

2004-06-22 Thread John Summerfield 
Simon Buchanan wrote:
Hi There,
can someone please help me... Im going MAD. Im trying to install Oracle on
an IBM xSeries 335. Todo so the Oracle installer needs X to run. I have run
apt-get xserver etc etc etc and run thru the config It just wont run.
Here is the XFree86-4 file:
This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)
 

On servers and small boxes I like to run vnc, and for a wm my current 
favourite is fvwm.

This provides these advantages over your approach:
1. You don't get to fight XFree86 configurations
2. You can run headless.
3. You can also run sans keyboard and mouse so avoiding the perils of 
hotplugging non-hotpluggable devices (or trying to hide a keyboard).
4, You get to specify the screen size you want. For example, this gives 
a desktop that's usable via modem.
vncserver -geometry 800x600

On a good desktop, it's just a small window.
The vnc protocol isn't considered especially secure, but you can tunnel 
ports with ssh:
ssh -L8080:127.0.0.1:25 example.com
telnet 127.0.0.1 8080
You would expect to be greeted by an MTA on example.com: example.com 
would see you as connecting from 127.0.0.1.

Change the port number appropriately and you can talk to Xvnc.
You can also get the desktop up in any Java-capable browser, even 
Internet Exploder. Connect to your server in Maine from an internet cafe 
in the Bahamas:-)



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IBM xSeries 335 and XFree86

2004-06-21 Thread Simon Buchanan 
Hi There,

can someone please help me... Im going MAD. Im trying to install Oracle on
an IBM xSeries 335. Todo so the Oracle installer needs X to run. I have run
apt-get xserver etc etc etc and run thru the config It just wont run.
Here is the XFree86-4 file:


This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
 reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.3-bk2 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Jun 23 04:55:30 2004
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(**) FontPath set to
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/lib/X11
/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/font
s/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fon
ts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
 XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
 compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
 ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
 compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1166,0014 card , rev 31 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 1166,0014 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 1166,0014 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1002,4752 card 1014,0240 rev 27 class 03,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 1166,0201 card 1166,0201 rev 93 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:0f:1: chip 1166,0212 card 1166,0212 rev 93 class 01,01,8a hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:0f:2: chip 1166,0220 card 1166,0220 rev 05 class 0c,03,10 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:0f:3: chip 1166,0225 card 1166,0230 rev 00 class 06,01,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 1166,0101 card , rev 05 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:11:2: chip 1166,0101 card , rev 05 class 06,00,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 01:01:0: chip 1000,0030 card 1014,026d rev 07 class 01,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 02:01:0: chip 14e4,16a7 card 1014,026f rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 02:02:0: chip 14e4,16a7 card 1014,026f rev 02 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
 compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
 [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
 [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
 [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
 [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1000