FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working

1998-07-09 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
  Check that you did include support for IDE/ATAPI cd-roms and enchanced
   IDE/MMF/RLL support. Also check that did you include support for SCSI-
  emulation. 
 
  One thing could be that some card goes to irq 15 in boot and messes things
  up.
 
  If those do not help, try .34. 

Jaakko, I want to thank you for hanging in there. I swapped /dev/hdb (hard
drive slave on primary bus) for /dev/hdc (cdrom master on secondary bus). Two
things have become self-evident:

1) If the kernel does not see any valid devices on the secondary IDE bus, the
kernel will disable the bus (this fact was unknown to me)

2) Some CDrom drives prefer to be slave drives and do not properly respond
to the kernel's inquiry when jumpered as a master drive (again, an unknown 
fact)

Full use of my system has now been restored and perhaps the members of the
debian-user list will benefit from this experience.

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Re: FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working

1998-07-09 Thread C.J.LAWSON

On Thu, 9 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) Some CDrom drives prefer to be slave drives and do not properly respond
 to the kernel's inquiry when jumpered as a master drive (again, an unknown 
 fact)
Humm, that explains ... 
thanks 
Jon.


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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-08 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  Jaakko Niemi writes:
   
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, 
  the secondary
  IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen 
  shows the IDE
  primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to 
  boot. How can
  I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary 
  IDE bus?
 
  Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
 

Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , 
now that I
think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or 
the CDROM
drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB 
manufacturer).
Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently 
different
from the norm that a special driver is needed.
   
That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the 
   secondary IDE
channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 
   
If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 
   there?
  
  NO, only IDE0 is present. A stand-alone PCI bus probe program would come in
  handy right about now 8-)
 
  Hmm. if the cd works fine in 95, you might want to check the relevant kernel
  settings. What is the chipset used with that mb ? TX? Do you have any pnp 
  cards ?

Kernel settings? I'll have a look at it since I compile my own kernel. You may
have hit on something with the chipset - Intel 430TX PCIset with PCI Bus
Master IDE controller. I do have PNP cards on the PCI bus, but all of them
are recognized and initialized properly. If I upgrade the kernel to 2.0.34, do
you think that might fix this situation?

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-08 Thread Jaakko Niemi
   settings. What is the chipset used with that mb ? TX? Do you have any pnp 
   cards ?
 
 Kernel settings? I'll have a look at it since I compile my own kernel. You 
 may
 have hit on something with the chipset - Intel 430TX PCIset with PCI Bus
 Master IDE controller. I do have PNP cards on the PCI bus, but all of them
 are recognized and initialized properly. If I upgrade the kernel to 2.0.34, 
 do
 you think that might fix this situation?

 Check that you did include support for IDE/ATAPI cd-roms and enchanced
  IDE/MMF/RLL support. Also check that did you include support for SCSI-
 emulation. 

 One thing could be that some card goes to irq 15 in boot and messes things
 up.

 If those do not help, try .34. 

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-07 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Jaakko Niemi writes:
  
   Jaakko Niemi writes:

 All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, 
 the secondary
 IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows 
 the IDE
 primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to 
 boot. How can
 I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary 
 IDE bus?

 Does the BIOS find your CD ? 

   
   Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now 
   that I
   think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or 
   the CDROM
   drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB 
   manufacturer).
   Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently 
   different
   from the norm that a special driver is needed.
  
   That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the secondary 
  IDE
   channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 
  
   If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 
  there?
 
 NO, only IDE0 is present. A stand-alone PCI bus probe program would come in
 handy right about now 8-)

 Hmm. if the cd works fine in 95, you might want to check the relevant kernel
 settings. What is the chipset used with that mb ? TX? Do you have any pnp 
 cards ?

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-06 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  Jaakko Niemi writes:
   
All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the 
secondary
IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows 
the IDE
primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to 
boot. How can
I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE 
bus?
   
Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
   
  
  Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now 
  that I
  think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the 
  CDROM
  drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB 
  manufacturer).
  Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different
  from the norm that a special driver is needed.
 
  That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the secondary IDE
  channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 
 
  If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 
 there?

NO, only IDE0 is present. A stand-alone PCI bus probe program would come in
handy right about now 8-)

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-05 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 Jaakko Niemi writes:
  
   All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the 
   secondary
   IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the 
   IDE
   primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. 
   How can
   I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE 
   bus?
  
   Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
  
 
 Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now that 
 I
 think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the 
 CDROM
 drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB manufacturer).
 Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different
 from the norm that a special driver is needed.

 That's a reeaally old 95 'buglet' that it did not recognize the secondary IDE
 channel on Intel chipsets and at worst disabled it entarily. 

 If you do a cat /proc/interrupts , do you see int. 15 allocated to ide1 there?

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-03 Thread tko
Jaakko Niemi writes:
 
  All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the 
  secondary
  IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the IDE
  primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. How 
  can
  I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE bus?
 
  Does the BIOS find your CD ? 
 

Yes, The BIOS does properly identify the CDrom Drive. Funny thing , now that I
think about it, is that Win95 could not see the secondary IDE bus or the CDROM
drive until I loaded a driver under Win95 (supplied by the MB manufacturer).
Perhaps the registers for the secondary IDE bus are sufficiently different
from the norm that a special driver is needed.


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IDE stopped working

1998-07-02 Thread tko
All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the secondary
IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the IDE
primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. How can
I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE bus?

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Re: IDE stopped working

1998-07-02 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 All was good until I changed motherboards. All of a sudden now, the secondary
 IDE bus does not properly detect the cdrom drive. The screen shows the IDE
 primary bus as being probed, but no secondary bus. I use LILO to boot. How 
 can
 I get the kernel (2.0.32) to properly probe/detect the secondary IDE bus?

 Does the BIOS find your CD ? 

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