Re: IM on a home debian network
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:16:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: I just started to use screen and it has 'control-a ?' which given you the 'cheatsheet'. But you dont need all the commands to start using it. I use: 'screen MYCOMMAND' to start a new screen session control-a for menu-based session selection control-a n for 'go to next screen session' 'screen -list' to list the sessions there are many more, but it is easy to try and then ask here for more advanced options. Yea, I just tried it again and it only took me 20 seconds to hit something (wrong key?) and its frozen that vt, nothing works. I tried killing its process and it remained frozen. Luckily, I had ssh'd in to the box so I could kill the ssh session from the originating box. I know, the GNU folks are in love with Ctrl-* * commands (witness info) but why they can't give a screen like in minicom with drop-down menus or something... Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:22:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Never heard of 'screen'? I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple. Doug. I just started to use screen and it has 'control-a ?' which given you the 'cheatsheet'. But you dont need all the commands to start using it. I use: 'screen MYCOMMAND' to start a new screen session control-a for menu-based session selection control-a n for 'go to next screen session' 'screen -list' to list the sessions there are many more, but it is easy to try and then ask here for more advanced options. -K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On 7/28/07, Jesus Arocho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? Pidgin as well as Gajim support link-local messaging using the XMPP protocol (Jabber). As an added bonus this is designed to inter-operate with iChat for Mac OS X. -- Andrew Barr We matter more than pounds and pence, your economic theory makes no sense... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
screen and alternate wm's [was: Re: IM on a home debian network]
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:16:32PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: ... I just started to use screen and it has 'control-a ?' which given you the 'cheatsheet'. But you dont need all the commands to start using it. I use: 'screen MYCOMMAND' to start a new screen session control-a for menu-based session selection control-a n for 'go to next screen session' 'screen -list' to list the sessions there are many more, but it is easy to try and then ask here for more advanced options. interestingly, as we wander more OT from the original thread, my recent adoption of screen has catapulted me into higher levels of geekdom. For example, I now no longer maintain multiple email clients in multiple locations as I just ssh in to my main box and reattach my current screen session. Also, the reorientation to a keystroke driven interface has pushed me to take the plunge and relearn wmii. I had previously learned and loved wmii2, but the transition to wmii3 didn't go over well with me. Now, running a dual-head setup and putting in just a few minutes to grind through the transition, wmii3 is awesome. Couple that with screen and multiple tags on my screen window, so that its always available whatever my view currently is and I'm in heaven. Primary app gets full screen on the left monitor, secondary apps and my screen session share the right monitor. giggity giggity. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:33:14PM -0400, Jesus Arocho [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? I believe zephyr is still hanging around in the archive. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Never heard of 'screen'? I finally knuckled down and learned screen a few weeks ago and I've never looked back. Its just ridiculously easy and convenient. And with pubkey authentication, I'm never away from my desk. Its awesome. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IM on a home debian network
hi, On 7/29/07, Jesus Arocho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network?# as pointed out, jabber is imho _the_ solution. I prefer wildfire (google: wildfire igniterealtime). It's java but i found it to be the most painless one in upgrading/maintaining and it has a bunch of usefull plugins included. hth martin PS: with that option you'll also have the chance to stay with that account should you ever decide to make it public/use it as a public available service. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/07 22:30, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:59:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/28/07 21:52, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] Instant messaging on a home network? Try a low-tech holler: SEEE! TURN ON THE MODEM! What ever happened to diald? Its an external Courier. I meant push the button to turn it on. It was only a humourous comment; my wife would kill me if I addressed her as SEE like I was calling in a cow; It's even worse than that. SEE is how you call a pig. my wife wouldn't know what a modem looks like. I didn't either, until someone pointed one (a 300 baud acoustic coupler, in fact) out to me, and said, That's a modem. To get the modem to connect, I ssh to that box and type: $pon courier $bwm-ng and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Doug. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrC00S9HxQb37XmcRAtJOAJ405tCt43pj6aEVX/9Us7vMSnRe0QCg2IWF 6KCZcpFRFYL4lzmQ/riDFMk= =DPBt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
Jesus Arocho wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? Hi Jesus, You can try KSalup KSalup supports two protocols : Communication with a computer running Winpopup or using the NetBios protocol over TCP sending and receiving messages through Samba. Communication with computers on a local subnet, using the Netbios protocol over UDP, compatible with almost all of the current softwares (Kurupop, Pipo p, Salup, Windows NT, ...) Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
Ron Johnson wrote: What ever happened to diald? It was obsoleted by the demand-dial feature of pppd which can be configured with pppconfig. Doug writes: Its an external Courier. I meant push the button to turn it on. Why do you turn it off? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Never heard of 'screen'? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Never heard of 'screen'? I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:22:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Never heard of 'screen'? I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for keystrokes. I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a cheat-sheet makes using it very slow. Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple. The keybindings are configurable. Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) pgpqeMTxsEFEm.pgp Description: PGP signature
IM on a home debian network
I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Jul 28, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Jesus Arocho wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? Try looking in to Jabber, you can run that as a server. (http://www.jabber.org/) I've never used it though, only looked into it for use with my Mac. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 10:33:14PM -0400, Jesus Arocho wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? Instant messaging on a home network? Try a low-tech holler: SEEE! TURN ON THE MODEM! When my wife wants me when I'm downstairs, she knocks on the floor. Or she tells our dog George: go get Doug. Talk? I think there are X talk clients if you don't want to keep an xterm open. If its just a single message: good old write. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/07 21:52, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] Instant messaging on a home network? Try a low-tech holler: SEEE! TURN ON THE MODEM! What ever happened to diald? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGrAJ4S9HxQb37XmcRAtILAJ4h10fY9xhAt02gmdNfQUjurby3XACgqpSG dCVnjoJBJE/26UI5CAsmCwE= =L+NE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On 7/28/07, ArcticFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 28, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Jesus Arocho wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? Try looking in to Jabber, you can run that as a server. (http://www.jabber.org/) I've never used it though, only looked into it for use with my Mac. Some Jabber clients (on linux, gajim and maybe pidgin) also support link local (serverless) messaging. I have never used it so I can't say more than that. Cheers, Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:59:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 07/28/07 21:52, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] Instant messaging on a home network? Try a low-tech holler: SEEE! TURN ON THE MODEM! What ever happened to diald? Its an external Courier. I meant push the button to turn it on. It was only a humourous comment; my wife would kill me if I addressed her as SEE like I was calling in a cow; my wife wouldn't know what a modem looks like. To get the modem to connect, I ssh to that box and type: $pon courier $bwm-ng and leave this VC 1 open. VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or $watch -n 20 from -c VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session). VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to. There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IM on a home debian network
On Saturday 28 July 2007 23:04, you wrote: On Jul 28, 7:30 pm, Jesus Arocho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a home network with 5 boxes, one of which is a server. I run a combination of Ubuntu and Debian desktops and Debian on the server. Is there a program available that will provide instant messaging within the network? ejabberd makes a great Jabber server, I used to use it until I just got tired of running all my own services. If you have a hostname accessable from the outside, you can even use it to communicate with other Jabber users on other servers, like LiveJournal, Google, et. al. I strongly recommend looking into it. As far as a client goes, it's really hard to beat Psi, which is in Debian, and available for MacOS and Windows as well. If you're familiar with the classic ICQ or LICQ interfaces, you won't be at a loss in Psi. Thanks, I will give it a try. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
