Re: IPV6 dns server running on IPV4 Connection??

2014-09-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:52:16AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:16:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 
  Whoops... should have gone to the list. Sorry about that!
  
  On 9/3/2014 10:48 AM, John Foster wrote:
  I have Verizon as my ISP; of course they don't want or allow the
  running of static addressed servers. However they seem to be ignoring
  most IPV6 systems connection. I.E. I can browse IPV6 network
  connections and my router from Verizon has IPV6 settings enabled for
  both DHCPv6  Staticv6 connections. I am wondering if it would be
  possible to set up bind to run on my server with IPV6 initialized and
  run my server using it as an IPV6 static site while they (Verizon)
  happily use the same IPV4 installation they are already using. Could
  this setup coexist on one machine. BTW: I am able to set up IPV6 DNS
  thru Godaddy at their dns zone manager for my server, to point to my
  unique IPV6 address. Only issue thereafter is where to get the proper
  IPV6 unique addres for my machine.
  ANY suggestions or comment are greatly appreciated.
  john
  
  
  
  Even if you get a unique IPV6 address, Verizon would have to tell the
  rest of the internet the routing to your address.  And unless you get it
  from Verizon, chances are they aren't going to do it.
  
  Yes, it could coexist on one machine - but ANY IP routing is dependent
  on the next machine in the chain passing the routing information on.
  Without this, no one (not even someone else on the Verizon network) will
  be able to access your IP.
  
  Your best bet is going to be to get an IPV6 address from Verizon.  But
  please remember - most internet users (and even many ISPs) are still
  using IPV4 only, and will not be able to access your site.
  
  Jerry
 
 There's a company I heard of a few years ago that provides IPv6-over-IPv3 
 tunnelling.  I think it's called Hurricane Electric.  Look it up, see if 
 it fits your needs.

Actually,  Hurricane Electric  (among many  other providers[1])  provide
IPv6 over IPv4 (I'm going to assume that was a typo, though, as IPv3 was
an experimental version which was retired in 1979).

You can basically  think of these tunnel brokers as  being your IPv6 ISP
(with Verizon  etc being  the IPv4  ISP). The  real difference  is that,
instead  of providing  IPv4 over  ADSL/VDSL etc  and providing  you with
equipment to terminate that line, the tunnel brokers rely on you already
having a physical connection and  provide you internet access over that,
instead.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers


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Re: IPV6 dns server running on IPV4 Connection??

2014-09-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:16:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

 Whoops... should have gone to the list. Sorry about that!
 
 On 9/3/2014 10:48 AM, John Foster wrote:
 I have Verizon as my ISP; of course they don't want or allow the
 running of static addressed servers. However they seem to be ignoring
 most IPV6 systems connection. I.E. I can browse IPV6 network
 connections and my router from Verizon has IPV6 settings enabled for
 both DHCPv6  Staticv6 connections. I am wondering if it would be
 possible to set up bind to run on my server with IPV6 initialized and
 run my server using it as an IPV6 static site while they (Verizon)
 happily use the same IPV4 installation they are already using. Could
 this setup coexist on one machine. BTW: I am able to set up IPV6 DNS
 thru Godaddy at their dns zone manager for my server, to point to my
 unique IPV6 address. Only issue thereafter is where to get the proper
 IPV6 unique addres for my machine.
 ANY suggestions or comment are greatly appreciated.
 john
 
 
 
 Even if you get a unique IPV6 address, Verizon would have to tell the
 rest of the internet the routing to your address.  And unless you get it
 from Verizon, chances are they aren't going to do it.
 
 Yes, it could coexist on one machine - but ANY IP routing is dependent
 on the next machine in the chain passing the routing information on.
 Without this, no one (not even someone else on the Verizon network) will
 be able to access your IP.
 
 Your best bet is going to be to get an IPV6 address from Verizon.  But
 please remember - most internet users (and even many ISPs) are still
 using IPV4 only, and will not be able to access your site.
 
 Jerry

There's a company I heard of a few years ago that provides IPv6-over-IPv3 
tunnelling.  I think it's called Hurricane Electric.  Look it up, see if 
it fits your needs.

-- hendrik
 


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IPV6 dns server running on IPV4 Connection??

2014-09-03 Thread John Foster
I have Verizon as my ISP; of course they don't want or allow the running 
of static addressed servers. However they seem to be ignoring most IPV6 
systems connection. I.E. I can browse IPV6 network connections and my 
router from Verizon has IPV6 settings enabled for both DHCPv6  Staticv6 
connections. I am wondering if it would be possible to set up bind to 
run on my server with IPV6 initialized and run my server using it as an 
IPV6 static site while they (Verizon) happily use the same IPV4 
installation they are already using. Could this setup coexist on one 
machine. BTW: I am able to set up IPV6 DNS thru Godaddy at their dns 
zone manager for my server, to point to my unique IPV6 address. Only 
issue thereafter is where to get the proper IPV6 unique addres for my 
machine.

ANY suggestions or comment are greatly appreciated.
john


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Re: IPV6 dns server running on IPV4 Connection??

2014-09-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Whoops... should have gone to the list. Sorry about that!

On 9/3/2014 10:48 AM, John Foster wrote:
 I have Verizon as my ISP; of course they don't want or allow the running
 of static addressed servers. However they seem to be ignoring most IPV6
 systems connection. I.E. I can browse IPV6 network connections and my
 router from Verizon has IPV6 settings enabled for both DHCPv6  Staticv6
 connections. I am wondering if it would be possible to set up bind to
 run on my server with IPV6 initialized and run my server using it as an
 IPV6 static site while they (Verizon) happily use the same IPV4
 installation they are already using. Could this setup coexist on one
 machine. BTW: I am able to set up IPV6 DNS thru Godaddy at their dns
 zone manager for my server, to point to my unique IPV6 address. Only
 issue thereafter is where to get the proper IPV6 unique addres for my
 machine.
 ANY suggestions or comment are greatly appreciated.
 john
 
 

Even if you get a unique IPV6 address, Verizon would have to tell the
rest of the internet the routing to your address.  And unless you get it
from Verizon, chances are they aren't going to do it.

Yes, it could coexist on one machine - but ANY IP routing is dependent
on the next machine in the chain passing the routing information on.
Without this, no one (not even someone else on the Verizon network) will
be able to access your IP.

Your best bet is going to be to get an IPV6 address from Verizon.  But
please remember - most internet users (and even many ISPs) are still
using IPV4 only, and will not be able to access your site.

Jerry


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