Problem installing Etch using local mirror
Hi, I'm trying to install Debian Etch from floppy and local mirror. It fails with message: The specified Debian archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror. Before I get bashed for this question, I'd like to explain that I want to install Debian on a very old laptop (Celeron 300MHz, 64MB RAM), which doesn't have a CD/DVD drive, doesn't boot from network, doesn't boot from USB and I can't remove its HDD. That's why I decided to use Etch, as it still had floppy install images. Before I tried installing it on a real hardware, I decided to test everything on a virtual machine. First I tried a regular mirror over http - failed (I understand that, etch is archived). Then I tried archive.debian.org - failed. Then I created a local mirror on my bigger Debian machine using apt-mirror. The installation failed again with the same message. During several failed attempts, I created symbolic links stable and oldstable to etch. Then I spied a little using wireshark. The installation requests the release file /debian/dists/oldstable/Release - which is returned with HTTP OK. Then it requests /debian/dists/etch/Release, which also finishes with a successful file transfer. Still the same error. No other files are requested from the mirror. I assume it's not a network or file-naming problem. What else can be wrong? Corrupted mirror? Invalid signatures? The beggining of the release file is as follows: Origin: Debian Label: Debian Suite: oldstable Version: 4.0r9 Codename: etch Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:22:09 UTC Architectures: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc Components: main contrib non-free Description: Debian 4.0r9 Released 22nd May 2010 MD5Sum: 88e31747739f3ea9445fe543b21061b5 10910068 Contents-powerpc.g I mirrored main contrib and non-free, only i386. The VM is Virtual Box, configured for 32bit Debian with floppy, small HDD, bridged network and 64MB RAM. My mirror machine is 64 bit Debian on Core2Quad processor - Linux StrikeNoir 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 14 09:42:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux The old laptop is Twinhead with Celeron processor. If someone knows how to bypass this and install Linux on this old laptop in a different way, I'll be happy to hear that. Still, I want to know what is wrong with my current procedure. Please help. Best regards, Michal Kurowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1315594657.2806.35.ca...@strikenoir.home
Re: Problem installing Etch using local mirror
Lurker_pas wrote: Then I tried archive.debian.org - failed. I would poke at this more closely. Why is this failing? I have a few obsolete Etch and even Sarge machines still hitting that archive and they are validating the archive okay. Seems to me that part should be working and that problem is probably the root cause of your trouble. If you figure that out you might be golden. You should be able to point your newer machines at the archive. All of the package versions will be older and so nothing will want to install. But updating should validate the release signatures. You may need to add the old key to your apt-key though. But the older installation would already have it. Can you debootstrap Etch? I would think that you could. It might be another way to validate your archive. Not as an install method for your machine but as a way to validate that you could install from your archive. I just tried an Etch debootstrap and it worked okay for me. debootstrap etch etch-chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian If someone knows how to bypass this and install Linux on this old laptop in a different way, I'll be happy to hear that. Still, I want to know what is wrong with my current procedure. Another possibility would be Syslinux. The upstream Syslinux site is down for me at this moment making it hard for me to check docs but as I recall it still supports floppy disk booting and has a process to bootstrap a network boot from a floppy disk boot. And etherboot. The etherboot howtos are available now so I will pass those along. http://etherboot.org/wiki/howtos http://etherboot.org/wiki/removable Note that I haven't tried it yet. I just remember having seen it. But it looks like it might be a way for you to install over the network but bootstrapping yourself entirely from the floppy disk. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problem installing Etch using local mirror
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: […] Another possibility would be Syslinux. The upstream Syslinux site is down for me at this moment making it hard for me to check docs but as I recall it still supports floppy disk booting and has a process to bootstrap a network boot from a floppy disk boot. And etherboot. I vaguely recall that Etherboot has become gPXE some time ago. In my experience, a floppy with gPXE installed instantly brings the network boot capability to older hardware. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 Coming soon: Software Freedom Day http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo/ planning-ru (ru), sfd-discuss (en) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86obyt4ht1@gray.siamics.net
Installing Etch
I need to install Etch (or Etch-and-a-half). I have CD 1. In order to install a fully working Etch I need more than that. So, how can I get: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs (ouch) or a working sources list? I have googled, but can get nothing about installing Etch, now it is already off the cliff. I try to time limit, but Google brings up things, that it claims were posted only 3 days ago, that talk about the change from Sarge to Etch. :-/ I did myself ask a related question on this list a while ago, but I can't find that either. My Google-foo has clearly gone AWOL. So, again: how can I get one or all of: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs, or a funtioning sources.list? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281228.55756.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
Hi, here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. Regards --- Roman On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I need to install Etch (or Etch-and-a-half). I have CD 1. In order to install a fully working Etch I need more than that. So, how can I get: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs (ouch) or a working sources list? I have googled, but can get nothing about installing Etch, now it is already off the cliff. I try to time limit, but Google brings up things, that it claims were posted only 3 days ago, that talk about the change from Sarge to Etch. :-/ I did myself ask a related question on this list a while ago, but I can't find that either. My Google-foo has clearly gone AWOL. So, again: how can I get one or all of: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs, or a funtioning sources.list? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281228.55756.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I need to install Etch (or Etch-and-a-half). I have CD 1. In order to install a fully working Etch I need more than that. So, how can I get: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs (ouch) or a working sources list? here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. Many thanks, Roman! Just what I needed. :-)) I did not expect it to be that simple!! (My own one attempt to install was frankly a mess!) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281241.55213.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
you're welcome! Yeah, but haven't found CD-s archive, just for curiosity, where they might be?... hmm. Regards Roman On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I need to install Etch (or Etch-and-a-half). I have CD 1. In order to install a fully working Etch I need more than that. So, how can I get: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs (ouch) or a working sources list? here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. Many thanks, Roman! Just what I needed. :-)) I did not expect it to be that simple!! (My own one attempt to install was frankly a mess!) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281241.55213.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
ahaa, found it: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Roman Khomasuridze khomasuri...@gmail.comwrote: you're welcome! Yeah, but haven't found CD-s archive, just for curiosity, where they might be?... hmm. Regards Roman On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I need to install Etch (or Etch-and-a-half). I have CD 1. In order to install a fully working Etch I need more than that. So, how can I get: a full set of DVDs, a full set of CDs (ouch) or a working sources list? here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. Many thanks, Roman! Just what I needed. :-)) I did not expect it to be that simple!! (My own one attempt to install was frankly a mess!) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281241.55213.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
Roman wrote: you're welcome! Yeah, but haven't found CD-s archive, just for curiosity, where they might be?... hmm. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old points at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, A state of bliss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1q4crg-0004ev...@jack.mossbank.org.uk
Re: Installing Etch
On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: Hi, here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. That repository appears to be non-existent. I couldn't even ping it. :-( I tried a fair number of other repositories. They existed, but said that the requested files didn't. Plan B (the DVDs). Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281511.37331.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch
On Lu, 28 mar 11, 15:11:37, Lisi wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: Hi, here is repository: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free That's not going to work, since etch is archived. I guess, if you have CD1 this will be enough, just install it and then extend with above repository. That repository appears to be non-existent. I couldn't even ping it. :-( I tried a fair number of other repositories. They existed, but said that the requested files didn't. Plan B (the DVDs). Lisi, you need archive.debian.org. Not sure exactly how the sources.list line should look like though, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch
On 2011-03-28 09:18:31 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 28 mar 11, 15:11:37, Lisi wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 12:37:41 Roman Khomasuridze wrote: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free That repository appears to be non-existent. I couldn't even ping it. :-( I tried a fair number of other repositories. They existed, but said that the requested files didn't. Plan B (the DVDs). Lisi, you need archive.debian.org. Not sure exactly how the sources.list line should look like though, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out. For Free Software: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main For Sources deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian etch main Getting contrib, non-free, and their corresponding sources is left as an exercise for the reader. Note that Etch has a number of known, unpatched security vulnerabilities and receives no real support from the Debian project. Moving to Lenny should be made a priority; any time spend working with Etch should be (at least) matched with the same amount of time pursuing an upgrade to Lenny. (Even Lenny is oldstable, but at least you should get 10+ months of security support on that and it's the first step in upgrading to Squeeze anyway.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Thanks! was Re: Installing Etch
On Monday 28 March 2011 16:20:18 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Note that Etch has a number of known, unpatched security vulnerabilities and receives no real support from the Debian project. Moving to Lenny should be made a priority; any time spend working with Etch should be (at least) matched with the same amount of time pursuing an upgrade to Lenny. Thanks for the warning, Boyd. But this is for an assessment question in a course I am doing, not for a machine in use. The questions centre on X and Etch, and given how much methods of dealing with X have changed between Etch and Squeeze, I thought that it might be nice to do at least some of it on the right version. Then I got pig-headed when I was failing. I can be quite stubborn about not giving up. Using the DVDs would presumably also work. Thanks all of you for all the help. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103281715.24278.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 05:12:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:06:41AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Where is the actual install media? That's one thing I'm not clear about. Not one article I've found on the web that has explained this has said where to put any install media. I was beginning to wonder if data was automatically pulled from a URL or something since I did not see instructions on placing any other install files. Indeed, the install guide is not so clear at this point. It merely points you to a complete tarball that includes the whole PXE network layout. But doesn't really tell you how to add it to an existing layout. I did find out, from experience, though, that there is no need for an installation medium. The entire install was either in the initrd or downloaded by the installer that was in there. I don't have that page in my browser at the moment so I don't remember if it was in a wiki or not. I think it may have been. I did get an account on the Soekris wiki, which had the instructions for everything to do except how to set up the PXEBoot (and for that it linked to the page we're discussing) and I added in the part about specifying the console as the serial device and the baud rate in the config file. Oh, and as an experiment, considering all the trouble I had, at one point I just unzipped the entire netboot.tgz (or was it tar.gz?) file in the tftpboot directory and edited the default config file and it worked perfectly. I think it was easier to add 2-3 lines to the config file than to be straight on which file to delete and which link to delete and replace. Which is why I prefer a preseed file to point to the mirror. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Saturday 11 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:06:41AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Where is the actual install media? That's one thing I'm not clear about. Not one article I've found on the web that has explained this has said where to put any install media. I was beginning to wonder if data was automatically pulled from a URL or something since I did not see instructions on placing any other install files. Indeed, the install guide is not so clear at this point. It merely points you to a complete tarball that includes the whole PXE network layout. But doesn't really tell you how to add it to an existing layout. I did find out, from experience, though, that there is no need for an installation medium. The entire install was either in the initrd or downloaded by the installer that was in there. I don't have that page in my browser at the moment so I don't remember if it was in a wiki or not. I think it may have been. I did get an account on the Soekris wiki, which had the instructions for everything to do except how to set up the PXEBoot (and for that it linked to the page we're discussing) and I added in the part about specifying the console as the serial device and the baud rate in the config file. Oh, and as an experiment, considering all the trouble I had, at one point I just unzipped the entire netboot.tgz (or was it tar.gz?) file in the tftpboot directory and edited the default config file and it worked perfectly. I think it was easier to add 2-3 lines to the config file than to be straight on which file to delete and which link to delete and replace. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Sunday 12 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 05:12:47AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 11 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:06:41AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Where is the actual install media? That's one thing I'm not clear about. Not one article I've found on the web that has explained this has said where to put any install media. I was beginning to wonder if data was automatically pulled from a URL or something since I did not see instructions on placing any other install files. Indeed, the install guide is not so clear at this point. It merely points you to a complete tarball that includes the whole PXE network layout. But doesn't really tell you how to add it to an existing layout. I did find out, from experience, though, that there is no need for an installation medium. The entire install was either in the initrd or downloaded by the installer that was in there. I don't have that page in my browser at the moment so I don't remember if it was in a wiki or not. I think it may have been. I did get an account on the Soekris wiki, which had the instructions for everything to do except how to set up the PXEBoot (and for that it linked to the page we're discussing) and I added in the part about specifying the console as the serial device and the baud rate in the config file. Oh, and as an experiment, considering all the trouble I had, at one point I just unzipped the entire netboot.tgz (or was it tar.gz?) file in the tftpboot directory and edited the default config file and it worked perfectly. I think it was easier to add 2-3 lines to the config file than to be straight on which file to delete and which link to delete and replace. Which is why I prefer a preseed file to point to the mirror. At this point, I've got mine working and likely won't need it again until/unless I reinstall in the future instead of just upgrading from Etch to Lenny and so on. For now mine stays as it is, mainly as part of the if it ain't broke, don't fix it idea, but this is something I'll certainly look into if I have to change it around in the future. The irony is the PXEBoot server I set up on the old system will be transferred to the one I just set up using PXEBoot soon. I'll just transfer it with rsync. When it comes time to make changes, I'll look at the preseed file and see if that works for me. Thanks for making the point. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:06:41AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Where is the actual install media? That's one thing I'm not clear about. Not one article I've found on the web that has explained this has said where to put any install media. I was beginning to wonder if data was automatically pulled from a URL or something since I did not see instructions on placing any other install files. Indeed, the install guide is not so clear at this point. It merely points you to a complete tarball that includes the whole PXE network layout. But doesn't really tell you how to add it to an existing layout. We just include the kernel (vmlinux) and network-install initrd in our custom PXE menu. We also use a simple preseed script to give the rest of the parameters to the installer. The entry I have thus far is: LABEL install-etch MENU LABEL Install Debian Etch KERNEL debian-installer/linux.etch.r4 APPEND initrd=debian-installer/initrd.etch.r4.gz DEBCONF_PRIORITY=critical vga=normal auto=true ramdisk_size=32768 url=http://myserver/netinst/debian.preseed -- debian.preseed contains the rest of the instructions for the installer, including the Debian mirror to use. On previous versions you could just take an install CD image and loopback-mount it as an installation source. This no longer works without some tweaks, as CDs now are not signed. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
I don't think the hardware is going to be the issue here. I'm pretty sure it's a config issue. I have a Soekris Net5501 box I'm installing Etch on. I'm hooked up to the box with a null modem cable for the console and it's also hooked up to my LAN. I've setup a PXE boot on my DNS server using tftpd-hpa. The 5501 starts up and I get data on the console (I'm using either Minicom or the screen command to read/write to the serial port). I do get the boot menu from the netboot, such as it is (since pxelinux seems limited to 15 columns of display) and when I get the prompt, I type install and Linux starts to load, including the long row of dots, then the screen clears and the cursor sits on the left side of the screen and nothing happens from then on. My guess is that once Linux loads communication is stopping with the serial port. I don't think it's going at a different baud rate because there's no garbage, but if it had a simple prompt, it could come up so fast I miss it before the screen clears. Here is the file structure in /var/lib/tftpboot: . |-- boot-screens | |-- boot.txt | |-- f1.txt | |-- f10.txt | |-- f2.txt | |-- f3.txt | |-- f4.txt | |-- f5.txt | |-- f6.txt | |-- f7.txt | |-- f8.txt | |-- f9.txt | `-- splash.rle |-- initrd.gz |-- linux |-- orig-bu | |-- debian | | `-- etch | | `-- i386 | | |-- initrd.gz | | `-- linux | |-- pxelinux.0 | `-- pxelinux.cfg | |-- boot.txt | `-- default |-- pxelinux.0 |-- pxelinux.cfg | `-- default `-- pxelinux.cfg.serial-9600 `-- default I thought it might be a baud rate issue. The 5501 starts with 19200 baud, so I altered pxelinux.cfg/default to use the same speed and to specify the right console (before I added CONSOLE 0 on one line, I'd get double characters). Here's the pxelinux.cfg file: SERIAL 0 19200 CONSOLE 0 DISPLAY boot-screens/boot.txt F1 boot-screens/f1.txt F2 boot-screens/f2.txt F3 boot-screens/f3.txt F4 boot-screens/f4.txt F5 boot-screens/f5.txt F6 boot-screens/f6.txt F7 boot-screens/f7.txt F8 boot-screens/f8.txt F9 boot-screens/f9.txt F0 boot-screens/f10.txt DEFAULT install LABEL install kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL linux kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL expert kernel linux append priority=low vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL rescue kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz rescue/enable=true -- LABEL auto kernel linux append auto=true priority=critical vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- PROMPT 1 TIMEOUT 0 I would think this would specify the right baud rate. Linux is loading and so is initrd. It's just that I get no prompt or any screen activity or response after both Linux and initrd load. I tried stopping my term program (in this case screen) and starting it again at 9600, which I saw somewhere should be the default baud rate, but it didn't help and was still unresponsive. I've been using this page (http://wiki.soekris.info/Installing_Debian_Linux_(4.0r1_Etch)) as a guide and had the same problems when I did everything as that page suggested. Then I changed and used the setup files from Debian, which is how it's set up now. What am I doing wrong or what do I need to change so after Linux and initrd.gz load I get a prompt or the Etch installer when it's done? Do I need to include install files as well? I didn't see that mentioned in any of the pages that discussed this. If so, would I just snag a net install CD and copy all the files into a special directory somewhere in /var/lib/tftpboot? Thanks for any help or pointers! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Thursday 09 October 2008, Hal Vaughan wrote: I don't think the hardware is going to be the issue here. I'm pretty sure it's a config issue. I have a Soekris Net5501 box I'm installing Etch on. I'm hooked up to the box with a null modem cable for the console and it's also hooked up to my LAN. I've setup a PXE boot on my DNS server using tftpd-hpa. The 5501 starts up and I get data on the console (I'm using either Minicom or the screen command to read/write to the serial port). I do get the boot menu from the netboot, such as it is (since pxelinux seems limited to 15 columns of display) and when I get the prompt, I type install and Linux starts to load, including the long row of dots, then the screen clears and the cursor sits on the left side of the screen and nothing happens from then on. I used a capture file and can add to this point: After typing install which should start the Linux kernel and initrd.gz, I get this: Loading linux... Loading initrd.gz. Ready. After the Ready. there is one character: 0x0A and nothing else. That's when I always lose communication. Nothing else appears, not even gibberish, and there's no response if I try to type anything new. My guess is that once Linux loads communication is stopping with the serial port. I don't think it's going at a different baud rate because there's no garbage, but if it had a simple prompt, it could come up so fast I miss it before the screen clears. Here is the file structure in /var/lib/tftpboot: . |-- boot-screens | | |-- boot.txt | |-- f1.txt | |-- f10.txt | |-- f2.txt | |-- f3.txt | |-- f4.txt | |-- f5.txt | |-- f6.txt | |-- f7.txt | |-- f8.txt | |-- f9.txt | | `-- splash.rle |-- initrd.gz |-- linux |-- orig-bu | | |-- debian | | `-- etch | | `-- i386 | | | | |-- initrd.gz | | | | `-- linux | |-- pxelinux.0 | | `-- pxelinux.cfg | | |-- boot.txt | | `-- default |-- pxelinux.0 |-- pxelinux.cfg | `-- default `-- pxelinux.cfg.serial-9600 `-- default I thought it might be a baud rate issue. The 5501 starts with 19200 baud, so I altered pxelinux.cfg/default to use the same speed and to specify the right console (before I added CONSOLE 0 on one line, I'd get double characters). Here's the pxelinux.cfg file: SERIAL 0 19200 CONSOLE 0 DISPLAY boot-screens/boot.txt F1 boot-screens/f1.txt F2 boot-screens/f2.txt F3 boot-screens/f3.txt F4 boot-screens/f4.txt F5 boot-screens/f5.txt F6 boot-screens/f6.txt F7 boot-screens/f7.txt F8 boot-screens/f8.txt F9 boot-screens/f9.txt F0 boot-screens/f10.txt DEFAULT install LABEL install kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL linux kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL expert kernel linux append priority=low vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- LABEL rescue kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz rescue/enable=true -- LABEL auto kernel linux append auto=true priority=critical vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- PROMPT 1 TIMEOUT 0 I would think this would specify the right baud rate. Linux is loading and so is initrd. It's just that I get no prompt or any screen activity or response after both Linux and initrd load. I tried stopping my term program (in this case screen) and starting it again at 9600, which I saw somewhere should be the default baud rate, but it didn't help and was still unresponsive. I've been using this page (http://wiki.soekris.info/Installing_Debian_Linux_(4.0r1_Etch)) as a guide and had the same problems when I did everything as that page suggested. Then I changed and used the setup files from Debian, which is how it's set up now. What am I doing wrong or what do I need to change so after Linux and initrd.gz load I get a prompt or the Etch installer when it's done? Do I need to include install files as well? I didn't see that mentioned in any of the pages that discussed this. If so, would I just snag a net install CD and copy all the files into a special directory somewhere in /var/lib/tftpboot? Thanks for any help or pointers! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:28:43PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: I don't think the hardware is going to be the issue here. I'm pretty sure it's a config issue. I have a Soekris Net5501 box I'm installing Etch on. I'm hooked up to the box with a null modem cable for the console and it's also hooked up to my LAN. I've setup a PXE boot on my DNS server using tftpd-hpa. The 5501 starts up and I get data on the console (I'm using either Minicom or the screen command to read/write to the serial port). You should tell that to linux. I do get the boot menu from the netboot, such as it is (since pxelinux seems limited to 15 columns of display) and when I get the prompt, I type install and Linux starts to load, including the long row of dots, then the screen clears and the cursor sits on the left side of the screen and nothing happens from then on. My guess is that once Linux loads communication is stopping with the serial port. I don't think it's going at a different baud rate because there's no garbage, but if it had a simple prompt, it could come up so fast I miss it before the screen clears. Here is the file structure in /var/lib/tftpboot: . |-- boot-screens | |-- boot.txt | |-- f1.txt | |-- f10.txt | |-- f2.txt | |-- f3.txt | |-- f4.txt | |-- f5.txt | |-- f6.txt | |-- f7.txt | |-- f8.txt | |-- f9.txt | `-- splash.rle |-- initrd.gz |-- linux |-- orig-bu | |-- debian | | `-- etch | | `-- i386 | | |-- initrd.gz | | `-- linux | |-- pxelinux.0 | `-- pxelinux.cfg | |-- boot.txt | `-- default |-- pxelinux.0 |-- pxelinux.cfg | `-- default `-- pxelinux.cfg.serial-9600 `-- default Where is the actual install media? I thought it might be a baud rate issue. The 5501 starts with 19200 baud, so I altered pxelinux.cfg/default to use the same speed and to specify the right console (before I added CONSOLE 0 on one line, I'd get double characters). Here's the pxelinux.cfg file: SERIAL 0 19200 CONSOLE 0 DISPLAY boot-screens/boot.txt F1 boot-screens/f1.txt F2 boot-screens/f2.txt F3 boot-screens/f3.txt F4 boot-screens/f4.txt F5 boot-screens/f5.txt F6 boot-screens/f6.txt F7 boot-screens/f7.txt F8 boot-screens/f8.txt F9 boot-screens/f9.txt F0 boot-screens/f10.txt DEFAULT install LABEL install kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- also append: console=ttyS0,19200 -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:28:43PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: I don't think the hardware is going to be the issue here. I'm pretty sure it's a config issue. I have a Soekris Net5501 box I'm installing Etch on. I'm hooked up to the box with a null modem cable for the console and it's also hooked up to my LAN. I've setup a PXE boot on my DNS server using tftpd-hpa. The 5501 starts up and I get data on the console (I'm using either Minicom or the screen command to read/write to the serial port). You should tell that to linux. I'm not clear what you mean by that. I do get the boot menu from the netboot, such as it is (since pxelinux seems limited to 15 columns of display) and when I get the prompt, I type install and Linux starts to load, including the long row of dots, then the screen clears and the cursor sits on the left side of the screen and nothing happens from then on. My guess is that once Linux loads communication is stopping with the serial port. I don't think it's going at a different baud rate because there's no garbage, but if it had a simple prompt, it could come up so fast I miss it before the screen clears. Here is the file structure in /var/lib/tftpboot: . |-- boot-screens | | |-- boot.txt | |-- f1.txt | |-- f10.txt | |-- f2.txt | |-- f3.txt | |-- f4.txt | |-- f5.txt | |-- f6.txt | |-- f7.txt | |-- f8.txt | |-- f9.txt | | `-- splash.rle |-- initrd.gz |-- linux |-- orig-bu | | |-- debian | | `-- etch | | `-- i386 | | | | |-- initrd.gz | | | | `-- linux | |-- pxelinux.0 | | `-- pxelinux.cfg | | |-- boot.txt | | `-- default |-- pxelinux.0 |-- pxelinux.cfg | `-- default `-- pxelinux.cfg.serial-9600 `-- default Where is the actual install media? That's one thing I'm not clear about. Not one article I've found on the web that has explained this has said where to put any install media. I was beginning to wonder if data was automatically pulled from a URL or something since I did not see instructions on placing any other install files. I thought it might be a baud rate issue. The 5501 starts with 19200 baud, so I altered pxelinux.cfg/default to use the same speed and to specify the right console (before I added CONSOLE 0 on one line, I'd get double characters). Here's the pxelinux.cfg file: SERIAL 0 19200 CONSOLE 0 DISPLAY boot-screens/boot.txt F1 boot-screens/f1.txt F2 boot-screens/f2.txt F3 boot-screens/f3.txt F4 boot-screens/f4.txt F5 boot-screens/f5.txt F6 boot-screens/f6.txt F7 boot-screens/f7.txt F8 boot-screens/f8.txt F9 boot-screens/f9.txt F0 boot-screens/f10.txt DEFAULT install LABEL install kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- also append: console=ttyS0,19200 I'm switching to a different system for the tftp server to make it easier, so once I'm done, I'll find out how that works. Thanks! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch With TFTP: Linux starts, I/O Stops
On Friday 10 October 2008, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:28:43PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: ... I thought it might be a baud rate issue. The 5501 starts with 19200 baud, so I altered pxelinux.cfg/default to use the same speed and to specify the right console (before I added CONSOLE 0 on one line, I'd get double characters). Here's the pxelinux.cfg file: SERIAL 0 19200 CONSOLE 0 DISPLAY boot-screens/boot.txt F1 boot-screens/f1.txt F2 boot-screens/f2.txt F3 boot-screens/f3.txt F4 boot-screens/f4.txt F5 boot-screens/f5.txt F6 boot-screens/f6.txt F7 boot-screens/f7.txt F8 boot-screens/f8.txt F9 boot-screens/f9.txt F0 boot-screens/f10.txt DEFAULT install LABEL install kernel linux append vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- also append: console=ttyS0,19200 It seems like this, added to the append line, is all that was needed. It's working fine now and starts the install -- where the install program comes from, I'm not clear (on the ramdrive?), but it works. Thank you! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
Le Monday 03 March 2008 23:01:23 Douglas A. Tutty, vous avez écrit : On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:50:15PM -0300, Juan Seet wrote: Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. You don't say if this is Sarge, Etch, Lenny, or Sid. Its important. Equally important, you should read the installation manual where it says what to do if you have a problem: the same as if you don't: send in an installation report. Since you have a problem, subscribe to debian-boot first where your email well get posted by the installation reports system. The people who lurk on that list are the people who write the installer and ensure that it boots. They will either know right away what to do, or will tell you what magical incantation to give the kernel so that it says something that will help them help you. Good luck. Doug. hi, Sometimes the kernel panic message is issued because the kernel etch-installer version is old, and you need a custom installer with newer kernel versio 2.6.21 and upper. you can try this installer http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.21/etch-custom-0720.iso I hope it will works. bye. -- thanks. fuzzy _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel panic installing Etch
Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. Juanseet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:50:15PM -0300, Juan Seet wrote: Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. You don't say if this is Sarge, Etch, Lenny, or Sid. Its important. Equally important, you should read the installation manual where it says what to do if you have a problem: the same as if you don't: send in an installation report. Since you have a problem, subscribe to debian-boot first where your email well get posted by the installation reports system. The people who lurk on that list are the people who write the installer and ensure that it boots. They will either know right away what to do, or will tell you what magical incantation to give the kernel so that it says something that will help them help you. Good luck. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
2008/3/3, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:50:15PM -0300, Juan Seet wrote: Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. You don't say if this is Sarge, Etch, Lenny, or Sid. Its important. Equally important, you should read the installation manual where it says what to do if you have a problem: the same as if you don't: send in an installation report. Since you have a problem, subscribe to debian-boot first where your email well get posted by the installation reports system. The people who lurk on that list are the people who write the installer and ensure that it boots. They will either know right away what to do, or will tell you what magical incantation to give the kernel so that it says something that will help them help you. Good luck. Doug. 0k thanks, I'll suscribe to debian-boot, but this mail subject is Kernel panic installing Etch ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
2008/3/3, Juan Seet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/3/3, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:50:15PM -0300, Juan Seet wrote: Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. You don't say if this is Sarge, Etch, Lenny, or Sid. Its important. Equally important, you should read the installation manual where it says what to do if you have a problem: the same as if you don't: send in an installation report. Since you have a problem, subscribe to debian-boot first where your email well get posted by the installation reports system. The people who lurk on that list are the people who write the installer and ensure that it boots. They will either know right away what to do, or will tell you what magical incantation to give the kernel so that it says something that will help them help you. Good luck. Doug. 0k thanks, I'll suscribe to debian-boot, but this mail subject is Kernel panic installing Etch ;) I can't find the debian-boot list, maybe you meant http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/ ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Any idea? Thanks for your time. You don't say if this is Sarge, Etch, Lenny, or Sid. Its important. He did (look in the subject line) say that it was on Etch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
Juan Seet wrote: I can't find the debian-boot list, maybe you meant http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/ ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel panic installing Etch
On Monday 03 March 2008 23:50, Juan Seet wrote: Hello, I downloaded netinst for AMD64, I tried to install it and I get the following message: Code: 89 d5 81 e5 ff 00 00 00 75 70 48 c1 ea 08 48 8d b3 18 10 00 console shuts up ... 0Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! System data: Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2100 MHz (10.5 x 200) 4000+ Motherboard: ECS AMD690GM-M2 Chipset: AMD 690G, AMD Hammer Memory: 2048 MB (DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM) Video card: ATI Radeon X1650 Series (512 MB) Any idea? Thanks for your time. Juanseet Did you to start the install with things like acpi=off and/or noapic? It may help. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Installing Etch and upgrading or Lenny directly
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:41:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Installing Etch and upgrading or Lenny directly To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/10/07, Guillermo Garron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After almost a year with Etch, I want to go to Lenny, I am going to reinstall my Debian (other reasons), the question is: Why not simply adjust your sources list to reflect lenny (or testing) and do # aptitude update # aptitude dist-upgrade I did that - about 6 months ago, back then I had actually ran etch (stable) for about 2 months or so. (I know it is more bandwidth installing etch and then go to lenny, but I am talking about the Debian itself) If your disk is wiped, start from the latest available lenny disks (or the jigdo weekly build) as a base, then update dist-upgrade to get the latest lenny. If you already have debian on the hard drive, then you shouldn't need to reinstall anyihing to get to lenny, just update your sources.list and do the update dist-upgrade. etch vs stable If you specify etch - you get to keep on using etch. Eventually, lenny will become stable, so when that happens, you get to keep running etch. You may not want to do that. If you specify stable you will always be running the stable du jour (or is it du an? :) and when Lenny becomes stable, you'll be running lenny. lenny vs testing Same thing. If you run lenny you will reach a point when lenny becomes stable, and you will always be running lenny - so at some point, little to no updates, other than security/bugfixes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch and upgrading or Lenny directly
Hi, After almost a year with Etch, I want to go to Lenny, I am going to reinstall my Debian (other reasons), the question is: Should I use my Etch installation disk and then upgrade to Lenny or is it any better to download the Lenny installation disk and go directly to Lenny. (I know it is more bandwidth installing etch and then go to lenny, but I am talking about the Debian itself) BTW, what is the difference between having in my sources.list etch vs stable or lenny vs testing ? I suppose that using testing I will always stay on testing no matter when Lenny becomes stable, but besides that? thanks. -- Guillermo Garron Linux IS user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are. http://feeds.feedburner.com/go2linux http://www.go2linux.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing etch: no HD detected
On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 12:04 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert mode with the following parameters: acpi=off pnpbios=off noapic noapm (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD, so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect any HD... The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during the installation... Any help will be very welcome. Hello! thanks to everyone who write helping. Finally, I used the lenny bussinescard cd, and the HD disk was recognized. Now, I am running lenny in the same machine with M$ Vista. Thanks again Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems installing etch: no HD detected
Hi! I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert mode with the following parameters: acpi=off pnpbios=off noapic noapm (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD, so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect any HD... The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during the installation... Any help will be very welcome. Regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing etch: no HD detected
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert mode with the following parameters: acpi=off pnpbios=off noapic noapm (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD, so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect any HD... The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during the installation... Any help will be very welcome. Etch defaults with a 2.6.18 kernel which might not have the drivers for your chipset. Give lenny or sid a try, or if your heart is set on etch, then perhaps look for a custom etch install with backported kernels. 2.6.22 would probably detect your drive. Cheers, sorry, I clicked on the wrong reply button, so here it is back to the list.
Re:problems installing etch: no HD detected
so sorry I sent the reply to the wrong address!it's my first time to use maillist. i meant, for your laptop, perhaps you should use the up-to-date kernel, 2.6.22.* version. it might contain the proper drivers for your hardware. 在2007-08-31，Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道： Hi! I need to install etch in a notebook which has MS-Vista installed. I have shrinked the HD (using diskpart from inside Vista) in order to get room for etch. I am using the etch netinstall cd, and the gui-expert mode with the following parameters: acpi=off pnpbios=off noapic noapm (I need these parameters in order to boot the Knoppix live CD, so, I guess the same are need for etch). Everything is going fine until the stage where the HD is detected: the etch installer doesn't detect any HD... The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during the installation... Any help will be very welcome. Regards Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems installing etch: no HD detected
The installed HD is a Western Diginal Scorpio HD (WD800BEVS), using the SATA port 1. I wonder if I need any special module to be loaded during the installation... Hi Maybe, might be a controller problem. So, debian don't see any hard disk. Try switch to shell and do dmesg command. Or try daily netinstall snapshot. U might try with ubuntu live 6.10 (it doesn't install anything on hard disk) and check if ubuntu's kernel check your controller (and disk). So, u could understand what's the problem. Best r. Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive etc I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine that the problem is the SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which has three modes of operation: * IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux... I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions. Thanks, Peter :-} -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive etc I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine that the problem is the SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which has three modes of operation: * IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux... I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions. Hi Peter, That's a bummer. I have no solution other than trying different hw. Do you have another spare CD drive that you can try with that board? That would not get you very far though, because the hdd is not recognized either? What does Knoppix offer? Does that boot? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive etc I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine that the problem is the SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which has three modes of operation: * IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux... I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions. Hi Peter, Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA? You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware. -- work hard, die young IT Stuff on http://blog.mc-thias.org Thias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive etc I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine that the problem is the SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which has three modes of operation: * IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux... I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions. Hi Peter, Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA? You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware. It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... I have seen that Ubuntu can be booted via USB stick in order to get a working system running. I believe something similar is possible for Debian although I have never tried it. Does that seem promising? thanks, Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:22:07PM +0200, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive etc I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine that the problem is the SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which has three modes of operation: * IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux... I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions. Hi Peter, Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA? You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware. It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... I have seen that Ubuntu can be booted via USB stick in order to get a working system running. I believe something similar is possible for Debian although I have never tried it. Does that seem promising? thanks, Peter Have you tried with some live CD as Knoppix, or the debian/testing installer? It might be interesting to see how Knoppix handles the device... You may try a different setting in your SATA configuration, at least during the installation. You may have something else than AHCI, and be careful on how your sata DVD drive is plugged (master/slave/...) -- work hard, die young IT Stuff on http://blog.mc-thias.org Thias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:22:07 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player. Cheers Frank -- Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:51:00PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:22:07 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all! I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player. Cheers Frank Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection. It is a DVD reader/recorder. For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of the Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather long list of CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick. Thanks, Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player. Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection. It is a DVD reader/recorder. For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of the Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather long list of CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick. From a quick Google search I found some Linuxers running the drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the Bios is the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer? Cheers Frank -- Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:22:19PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to read itself... What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player. Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection. It is a DVD reader/recorder. For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of the Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather long list of CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick. From a quick Google search I found some Linuxers running the drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the Bios is the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer? Yeah, I actually googled first before deciding to buy these components. I bought the components from a company here that assembled the parts, tested everything with Windows XP, and then thankfully were nice enough to remove that software from my computer. So for better or worse I take it that the hardware works and that there is a setup problem. As I say, I tried the three options to set up SATA, being *IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID, * SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID and * RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled. There didnt appear to be much else to do in the BIOS settings, but I am no big expert. thanks Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:02:44 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:22:19PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote: I bought a new computer with the following components: Intel Desktop Board DG965WH Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600) ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive From a quick Google search I found some Linuxers running the drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the Bios is the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer? Yeah, I actually googled first before deciding to buy these components. I bought the components from a company here that assembled the parts, tested everything with Windows XP, and then thankfully were nice enough to remove that software from my computer. So for better or worse I take it that the hardware works and that The thing I would suggest at this point is to get in touch with customer support at Asus - they may have a solution or put you on the right track anyway. I don't run anything needing SATA so I am almost as much in the dark as you are :) Cheers Frank -- Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch on a VME PPC CPU Board
On 05/30/07 22:56, SHS wrote: After running the default install from SCSI CDROM on an MVME2700-3361 the GUI will not start. It fails with No screens found. The video card is a Motorola MPMC301 with a Cirrus Logic GD5446 chip. I've tried two of the MPMC301. I've used an MVME2604-1361 with the MPMC301 VGA card and an MVME4604-5461 with an on-board VGA chip and they have the same error. Is there a way to get the boot process to skip the IDE probe, the board is booting from the SCSI port and hangs for several minutes while trying to look at the IDE hardware which I don't think is there. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Since VME boards are quite specialized, these two mailing lists would better server you: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/ http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/ -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch on a VME PPC CPU Board
After running the default install from SCSI CDROM on an MVME2700-3361 the GUI will not start. It fails with No screens found. The video card is a Motorola MPMC301 with a Cirrus Logic GD5446 chip. I've tried two of the MPMC301. I've used an MVME2604-1361 with the MPMC301 VGA card and an MVME4604-5461 with an on-board VGA chip and they have the same error. Is there a way to get the boot process to skip the IDE probe, the board is booting from the SCSI port and hangs for several minutes while trying to look at the IDE hardware which I don't think is there. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, -Bill
Re: Installing Etch on a VME PPC CPU Board
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:56:40PM -0500, SHS wrote: [snipped lamentable failure of x system] Is there a way to get the boot process to skip the IDE probe, the board is booting from the SCSI port and hangs for several minutes while trying to look at the IDE hardware which I don't think is there. I don't know a thing about the system you're working with, but I would think building a kernel without IDE support, *or* excluding IDE modules from the initrd (if you use one) would probably do the trick. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
installing etch on a ibm 8364 netvista
Hi list, i'd like to install etch on a the above machine... but, that machine have only a hd; no floppy-drive or cdrom. Xubuntu is installed on the hd and boot without any problem. Is there a way to replace xubuntu by etch ?? and how can i do that ? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. mess-mate -- Be free and open and breezy! Enjoy! Things won't get any better so get used to it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing etch on a ibm 8364 netvista
mess-mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, i'd like to install etch on a the above machine... but, that machine have only a hd; no floppy-drive or cdrom. Xubuntu is installed on the hd and boot without any problem. Is there a way to replace xubuntu by etch ?? and how can i do that ? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. mess-mate debootstrap should do the trick. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: installing etch on a ibm 8364 netvista
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | mess-mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hi list, | i'd like to install etch on a the above machine... | but, that machine have only a hd; no floppy-drive or cdrom. | Xubuntu is installed on the hd and boot without any problem. | Is there a way to replace xubuntu by etch ?? and how can i do that ? | Thanks in advance for any suggestion. | mess-mate | | debootstrap should do the trick. | Do you mean creating a debootstrap and when logging into, deleting the xubuntu system and then recreate new partitions and installing etch into ? (without the debootstrap of course) mess-mate -- You will be awarded some great honor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing etch on a ibm 8364 netvista
mess-mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | mess-mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hi list, | i'd like to install etch on a the above machine... | but, that machine have only a hd; no floppy-drive or cdrom. | Xubuntu is installed on the hd and boot without any problem. | Is there a way to replace xubuntu by etch ?? and how can i do that ? | Thanks in advance for any suggestion. | mess-mate | | debootstrap should do the trick. | Do you mean creating a debootstrap and when logging into, deleting the xubuntu system and then recreate new partitions and installing etch into ? (without the debootstrap of course) Well I don't know your setup, but I know debootstrap was built to do what you need. I think it is possible to setup etch directly onto a fresh partition (if you have the space available) and then just point grub/lilo to it. After everything is in place you can choose to remove xubuntu. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: issues after installing Etch
On Mar 8, 8:50 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new install of Etch has a few issues. [1] Even though my keyboard mapping is correct, xterms and rxvt's don't have the Alt key mapped to Meta, like other apps do (emacs/xemacs, etc). Checked the keymapping in xkeycaps, and it was right. How do i fix the way blah, blah, blah. Okay, i finally googled and tinkered enough, and figured this one out. Had to put the following in my ~/.Xdefaults: XTerm*altSendsEscape: true XTerm*eightBitInput: false And that solved it. Once again my fingers know what to do in an xterm. Guess i'm naming that batch of beer after _me_. [2] I installed sawfish, and got it configured mostly. Can't do Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 to get the Gnome popups for menu and 'run' (or whatever it's called). Any hints on this? It worked great on the Slackware 10.0 that i'm migrating from. No idea what's blocking it. Could still use some help on this one, though. I have nary a clue. /E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
issues after installing Etch
My new install of Etch has a few issues. [1] Even though my keyboard mapping is correct, xterms and rxvt's don't have the Alt key mapped to Meta, like other apps do (emacs/xemacs, etc). Checked the keymapping in xkeycaps, and it was right. How do i fix the way terminals (and console mode, too) read the Alt key? I've tried fixing the console key mapping --tried all the available US mappings, in fact. None of them helped. A possible clue: The X versions of Xemacs and GnuEmacs work fine, but when i run either of them in console mode in an xterm they don't. Also, here's what some of the Alt/Meta key combos yield in xterms: Alt and yields --- -- b â f æ d ä I'm at my wit's end on this. I'll name my next batch of beer after the first person w/the solution. [2] I installed sawfish, and got it configured mostly. Can't do Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 to get the Gnome popups for menu and 'run' (or whatever it's called). Any hints on this? It worked great on the Slackware 10.0 that i'm migrating from. No idea what's blocking it. thanks in advance, Eric
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:30:51 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] There is one more quick thing that you can try: Go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ [snip] I've done that now. The 'auto' search didn't work, but I was able to find in the database all the working drivers for a T20. The S3 Savage card works with the 'savagefb' driver. However, I'll leave this for the time being as I now have a fully working install of Etch with Kde. Just to make sure that you will not waste time later on: The savagefb driver is a framebuffer driver which has nothing to do with X. It can be used instead of the generic vesafb for the tty (non-X console) displays. You probably have already seen Chris Bannister's recent post in this thread; try the s3 and the s3virge driver that he suggests in your xorg.conf. (You need the packages xserver-xorg-video-s3 and xserver-xorg-video-s3virge to have them available. Maybe these packages were missing in your first install and that caused the problem with X.) Thanks for this information and advice. I've seen Chris Bannister's post, so thanks to him also. As the last install (with the savage driver) gives me a good result; better than the one with the vesa driver, I've decided to leave well alone for the time being - should anything go wrong later, I think all the advice I've received should enable me to sort things out provided any new proble is in the same area. With gratitude for the help, Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:12AM +, john gennard wrote: Section Device Identifier S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV Driver savage BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection I would try changing the line: Driver savage to Driver vesa (you can do this from dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you prefer.) If that works, then I'd try the 's3', 's3virge', drivers until I got an acceptable display. Of course, if choosing the 'vesa' driver doesn't help, the problem lies elsewhere. -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 15:30:51 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] There is one more quick thing that you can try: Go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and copy/paste your lspci -n output into the form. You will get a list of known drivers for your hardware. Maybe you have to choose a different driver to get best performance. I've done that now. The 'auto' search didn't work, but I was able to find in the database all the working drivers for a T20. The S3 Savage card works with the 'savagefb' driver. However, I'll leave this for the time being as I now have a fully working install of Etch with Kde. Just to make sure that you will not waste time later on: The savagefb driver is a framebuffer driver which has nothing to do with X. It can be used instead of the generic vesafb for the tty (non-X console) displays. You probably have already seen Chris Bannister's recent post in this thread; try the s3 and the s3virge driver that he suggests in your xorg.conf. (You need the packages xserver-xorg-video-s3 and xserver-xorg-video-s3virge to have them available. Maybe these packages were missing in your first install and that caused the problem with X.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: (You need the packages xserver-xorg-video-s3 and xserver-xorg-video-s3virge to have them available. FWIW, the only X server package I've got installed on my T20 is xserver-xorg-video-savage, which seems to work fine. -- Best wishes, Max Hyre signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:13:16 +, john gennard wrote: [...] This morning, I reconfigured X using the 'vesa' driver and you were perfectly right in your supposition. It now boots directly into Gnome (some tweaking will be necessary - the display is not very good due no doubt to some of the choices I made). I shall revert to Kde later (at present, I have to deal with another problem - the major upgrade to Etch on my main box has broken Kde). There is one more quick thing that you can try: Go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and copy/paste your lspci -n output into the form. You will get a list of known drivers for your hardware. Maybe you have to choose a different driver to get best performance. I've done that now. The 'auto' search didn't work, but I was able to find in the database all the working drivers for a T20. The S3 Savage card works with the 'savagefb' driver. However, I'll leave this for the time being as I now have a fully working install of Etch with Kde. Last night I deleted Etch with Gnome, formatted the partition and put the Etch with Kde CD in the drive and was asked to do nothing except decline the DHCP configuration - up came a flawless Kde desktop (of course, I still have the Trackpoint stuff showing as errors in Xorg.conf - but that has no effect). I don't know why things went flawlessly this time! However, it possible that your card is too new and that you have to wait for the next version of Xorg to have it fully supported. No, I don't think so - I believe the T20 may have been used by Moses when he was a boy. Once again, many thanks for all the time and effort. I bought the T20 secondhand for a one time purpose and have kept it on. I am now without my wireless connection and so can take it to a local Library where there is a free wireless hot-spot (limited to one hour usage per day) or to an Internet Cafe if I need to make very large downloads. Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:38:28 + andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? If you have a Windows installation on it you could try http://goodbye-microsoft.com Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:38:28 +, andy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? ..on my 5 old no-cd-nor-net-nor-pcmcia-boot ThinkPad 760ED's, I first put smartbootmanager on a floppy and put that on (hd0). I then halt the box and yank the floppy drive and put in a cd drive, they use the same bay. ..powering up, it boots up hd smartbootmanager and you just choose the cd drive from the menu, and if the cd drive is dodging reading the cd, just hit enter again and again 'till it catches and boots the cd. From then on, any boot cd works, I prefer net boot-n-install cd's over cd installer cd's on my 4x drives. ;o) ..if you don't have a lan debian mirror, you probably wanna use your desktop as a firewall, gateway and proxy server while installing your laptop. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:23:53 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] Normally when X is started during boot by [xkg]dm and it fails then you are just returned to the command prompt. If your box locks up completely then there might be something really wrong with the graphics driver or something is seriously wrong elsewhere. What is the last message that you see before your system locks up? I can't tell you that now. Earlier today I deleted Etch with Kde and replaced it with Etch having Gnome just to see what would happen. The result is the same, the box locks up and the logged error messages are identical, but I cannot see the last booting message for it's too quick and the screen immediately blanks out. As a quick test you can boot into single user mode and remove the runlevel 2 startup symlinks for the graphical log-in. This command will list the relevant links: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S???dm (There might be up to three links, for xdm, kdm, and gdm, respectively, but if you installed the Gnome desktop task then you will probably only have the gdm one.) After you remove these symlinks X will no longer be started automatically during boot. (Make a note of the links so that you can restore them later on.) If the system comes up normally without X then you can log in as your normal user and run startx manually. This should make it clear if X is to blame for the lockup or not. I bought this old laptop as it had XP installed and I had received a large amount of research data created by using Excel - it's still in the first partition. I'll have a look tomorrow to see what Graphics driver Windows used and get back to you. I don't think that the windows driver will tell us much. (The lspci information that you posted earlier is enough to identify the card, but we need someone who knows if this specific model has known issues with the xorg driver.) Sorry, I was so tired last night and I can't now understand why I mentioned the window's driver. This morning, I reconfigured X using the 'vesa' driver and you were perfectly right in your supposition. It now boots directly into Gnome (some tweaking will be necessary - the display is not very good due no doubt to some of the choices I made). I shall revert to Kde later (at present, I have to deal with another problem - the major upgrade to Etch on my main box has broken Kde). Many thanks, Florian, for all your help. Getting the problem solved is very satisfying but equally valuable has been the three detailed commands you provided taking me into areas where I've not ventured before. Best wishes, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? Thanks for any guidance /A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device
On Thu February 15 2007 09:38, andy wrote: Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? I'm sure there is but I haven't done that myself so I'm not sure of the details. I have an older box that I recently installed etch on. Much like you I had a dodgy CD drive (since replaced) that just wouldn't boot. I got the install floppy images (boot, root and two network card driver disks) and installed with that. If that laptop has a floppy drive you could do it that way. It was just like old times.. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:38:28PM +, andy wrote: Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? there are several methods: you could use a boot floppy to help you boot from the cd. You could use a floppy image to install from, but I'm not sure if that's really still supported or not. You could set up a dhcp/bootp server on your other machine (if the laptop will boot over the network). You could pull the hard-drive from the laptop and using a relatively inexpensive adaptor, install to it from your other machine. check the installation manual for more methods. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device
andy wrote: Good day I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway that I can exploit this arrangement to enable me to install onto the laptop? if your laptop supports it, try a network install with tftp boot see also http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/ch04s06 (i have never tried bootp, only pxe since my machines did support it...) yours albert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:13:16 +, john gennard wrote: [...] This morning, I reconfigured X using the 'vesa' driver and you were perfectly right in your supposition. It now boots directly into Gnome (some tweaking will be necessary - the display is not very good due no doubt to some of the choices I made). I shall revert to Kde later (at present, I have to deal with another problem - the major upgrade to Etch on my main box has broken Kde). There is one more quick thing that you can try: Go to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and copy/paste your lspci -n output into the form. You will get a list of known drivers for your hardware. Maybe you have to choose a different driver to get best performance. However, it possible that your card is too new and that you have to wait for the next version of Xorg to have it fully supported. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 14:02:20 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:24:54 +, john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. [...] There should be more info in the Xorg log. If you can switch to a terminal after a failed KDM startup, you can run egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get a list of all errors and warnings. Post this output here and we (hopefully) will know what is wrong. The output of the above command is:- [ snip: font directory warnings ] (EE) No devices detected. I had already looked at the xorg.log file, but I was looking only for errors and not warnings. The font directory warnings should be harmless. The fact that there is no other warning or error message before it fails with No devices detected suggests to me that you have some very basic misconfiguration or driver problem. What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output of lspci and post them here (lines mentioning VGA, graphic(s) or display). The only reference to VGA etc is:- 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) We also need more information about your xorg.conf. The output of the following command should be a good start: awk '/Section (Input)?Device/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRulesxorg Option XkbModelpc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ProtocolImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Synaptics Touchpad # Driver synaptics # Option SendCoreEvents true # Option Device /dev/psaux # Option Protocolauto-dev # Option HorizScrollDelta0 #EndSection Section Device Identifier S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV Driver savage BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection When trying to solve this problem myself, I 'disabled' the Trackpoint in Bios (it was by default set at 'auto disable' which I understand means it becomes disabled if an external mouse is attached), and commented out the 'Input Device' section in xorg.conf. This changed things and I went direct to a prompt, but an error message had been recorded indicating that the relevant entry in 'ServerLayout' also needed commenting out - this I did and the error message 'No devices detected' came up. As I said, I can now use a non-GUI installation by booting into 'single user mode' - trying a normal boot freezes everything. Thanks for your interest, Florian. Sorry for the delay - at the moment I have only a dial up connection and I've been upgrading Etch on two boxes (seems every Kde package had to upgraded, and that took almost 10 hours. Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:12 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output of lspci and post them here (lines mentioning VGA, graphic(s) or display). The only reference to VGA etc is:- 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) We also need more information about your xorg.conf. The output of the following command should be a good start: awk '/Section (Input)?Device/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Synaptics Touchpad # Driver synaptics # Option SendCoreEventstrue # Option Device/dev/psaux # Option Protocol auto-dev # Option HorizScrollDelta 0 #EndSection Section Device Identifier S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV Driver savage BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection There might be a problem with the savage driver and your card. SuperSavage/IX is mentioned as supported in man savage, but I cannot find your type number. Maybe somebody else knows more about this specific card. You could try to use the vesa driver instead, to see if it works at all. (This driver is very basic and will not offer hardware acceleration.) When trying to solve this problem myself, I 'disabled' the Trackpoint in Bios (it was by default set at 'auto disable' which I understand means it becomes disabled if an external mouse is attached), and commented out the 'Input Device' section in xorg.conf. This changed things and I went direct to a prompt, but an error message had been recorded indicating that the relevant entry in 'ServerLayout' also needed commenting out - this I did and the error message 'No devices detected' came up. As I said, I can now use a non-GUI installation by booting into 'single user mode' - trying a normal boot freezes everything. Normally when X is started during boot by [xkg]dm and it fails then you are just returned to the command prompt. If your box locks up completely then there might be something really wrong with the graphics driver or something is seriously wrong elsewhere. What is the last message that you see before your system locks up? -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:12 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output of lspci and post them here (lines mentioning VGA, graphic(s) or display). The only reference to VGA etc is:- 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) We also need more information about your xorg.conf. The output of the following command should be a good start: awk '/Section (Input)?Device/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRulesxorg Option XkbModelpc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ProtocolImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Synaptics Touchpad # Driver synaptics # Option SendCoreEvents true # Option Device /dev/psaux # Option Protocolauto-dev # Option HorizScrollDelta0 #EndSection Section Device Identifier S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV Driver savage BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection There might be a problem with the savage driver and your card. SuperSavage/IX is mentioned as supported in man savage, but I cannot find your type number. Maybe somebody else knows more about this specific card. You could try to use the vesa driver instead, to see if it works at all. (This driver is very basic and will not offer hardware acceleration.) When trying to solve this problem myself, I 'disabled' the Trackpoint in Bios (it was by default set at 'auto disable' which I understand means it becomes disabled if an external mouse is attached), and commented out the 'Input Device' section in xorg.conf. This changed things and I went direct to a prompt, but an error message had been recorded indicating that the relevant entry in 'ServerLayout' also needed commenting out - this I did and the error message 'No devices detected' came up. As I said, I can now use a non-GUI installation by booting into 'single user mode' - trying a normal boot freezes everything. Normally when X is started during boot by [xkg]dm and it fails then you are just returned to the command prompt. If your box locks up completely then there might be something really wrong with the graphics driver or something is seriously wrong elsewhere. What is the last message that you see before your system locks up? I can't tell you that now. Earlier today I deleted Etch with Kde and replaced it with Etch having Gnome just to see what would happen. The result is the same, the box locks up and the logged error messages are identical, but I cannot see the last booting message for it's too quick and the screen immediately blanks out. I bought this old laptop as it had XP installed and I had received a large amount of research data created by using Excel - it's still in the first partition. I'll have a look tomorrow to see what Graphics driver Windows used and get back to you. Again, thanks. Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:23:53 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] Normally when X is started during boot by [xkg]dm and it fails then you are just returned to the command prompt. If your box locks up completely then there might be something really wrong with the graphics driver or something is seriously wrong elsewhere. What is the last message that you see before your system locks up? I can't tell you that now. Earlier today I deleted Etch with Kde and replaced it with Etch having Gnome just to see what would happen. The result is the same, the box locks up and the logged error messages are identical, but I cannot see the last booting message for it's too quick and the screen immediately blanks out. As a quick test you can boot into single user mode and remove the runlevel 2 startup symlinks for the graphical log-in. This command will list the relevant links: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S???dm (There might be up to three links, for xdm, kdm, and gdm, respectively, but if you installed the Gnome desktop task then you will probably only have the gdm one.) After you remove these symlinks X will no longer be started automatically during boot. (Make a note of the links so that you can restore them later on.) If the system comes up normally without X then you can log in as your normal user and run startx manually. This should make it clear if X is to blame for the lockup or not. I bought this old laptop as it had XP installed and I had received a large amount of research data created by using Excel - it's still in the first partition. I'll have a look tomorrow to see what Graphics driver Windows used and get back to you. I don't think that the windows driver will tell us much. (The lspci information that you posted earlier is enough to identify the card, but we need someone who knows if this specific model has known issues with the xorg driver.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20: no screens in X
Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:- [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. However, as I have considerable arthritis in the hands and fingers, I have been using an external PS/2 mouse, so I can do without the 'fiddly' Trackpoint. I commented out references to Synaptics Touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but Kde still does not launch and the error messages )in Kdm.log) now say:- (EE) No devices detected Fatal Server error: no screens found. At the moment, to get into Etch, I have to boot into single user mode, otherwise the Laptop locks solid. I had a similar problem. It turned out my system was missing packages hal and udev. X.org wants to use keyboard and mouse via hardware abstraction layer, but the dependency was missing. Cameron Both 'hal' and 'udev' packages are fully installed. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:24:54 +, john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. However, as I have considerable arthritis in the hands and fingers, I have been using an external PS/2 mouse, so I can do without the 'fiddly' Trackpoint. I commented out references to Synaptics Touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but Kde still does not launch and the error messages )in Kdm.log) now say:- (EE) No devices detected Fatal Server error: no screens found. At the moment, to get into Etch, I have to boot into single user mode, otherwise the Laptop locks solid. I haven't yet tried to run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' as without a Manual I may not have enough info to answer some of the questions posed. Is what I am trying to do feasible? Can the trackpoint be brought into play? Any suggestions regarding a way forward would be apprciated (a more modern laptop is out unless I win the lottery!) There should be more info in the Xorg log. If you can switch to a terminal after a failed KDM startup, you can run egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get a list of all errors and warnings. Post this output here and we (hopefully) will know what is wrong. The output of the above command is:- (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi does not exist. (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi does not exist. (WW) The directory /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType does not exist. (EE) No devices detected. I had already looked at the xorg.log file, but I was looking only for errors and not warnings. John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 14:02:20 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:24:54 +, john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. [...] There should be more info in the Xorg log. If you can switch to a terminal after a failed KDM startup, you can run egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get a list of all errors and warnings. Post this output here and we (hopefully) will know what is wrong. The output of the above command is:- [ snip: font directory warnings ] (EE) No devices detected. I had already looked at the xorg.log file, but I was looking only for errors and not warnings. The font directory warnings should be harmless. The fact that there is no other warning or error message before it fails with No devices detected suggests to me that you have some very basic misconfiguration or driver problem. What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output of lspci and post them here (lines mentioning VGA, graphic(s) or display). We also need more information about your xorg.conf. The output of the following command should be a good start: awk '/Section (Input)?Device/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch with GUI on T20
I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. However, as I have considerable arthritis in the hands and fingers, I have been using an external PS/2 mouse, so I can do without the 'fiddly' Trackpoint. I commented out references to Synaptics Touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but Kde still does not launch and the error messages )in Kdm.log) now say:- (EE) No devices detected Fatal Server error: no screens found. At the moment, to get into Etch, I have to boot into single user mode, otherwise the Laptop locks solid. I haven't yet tried to run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' as without a Manual I may not have enough info to answer some of the questions posed. Is what I am trying to do feasible? Can the trackpoint be brought into play? Any suggestions regarding a way forward would be apprciated (a more modern laptop is out unless I win the lottery!) Regards, John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20: no screens in X
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. However, as I have considerable arthritis in the hands and fingers, I have been using an external PS/2 mouse, so I can do without the 'fiddly' Trackpoint. I commented out references to Synaptics Touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but Kde still does not launch and the error messages )in Kdm.log) now say:- (EE) No devices detected Fatal Server error: no screens found. At the moment, to get into Etch, I have to boot into single user mode, otherwise the Laptop locks solid. I had a similar problem. It turned out my system was missing packages hal and udev. X.org wants to use keyboard and mouse via hardware abstraction layer, but the dependency was missing. Cameron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:24:54 +, john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. The installation without GUI is fine, but Kde will not launch. Error messages in /var/log/kdm.log indicate that the installer assumed the laptop has a Synaptics Touchpad and this cannot be detected. /proc/bus/input/devices show that the device is in fact a 'TPPS/2 IBM Trackpoint' Googlings for the Trackpoint show a confusing picture which I don't understand. However, as I have considerable arthritis in the hands and fingers, I have been using an external PS/2 mouse, so I can do without the 'fiddly' Trackpoint. I commented out references to Synaptics Touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but Kde still does not launch and the error messages )in Kdm.log) now say:- (EE) No devices detected Fatal Server error: no screens found. At the moment, to get into Etch, I have to boot into single user mode, otherwise the Laptop locks solid. I haven't yet tried to run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' as without a Manual I may not have enough info to answer some of the questions posed. Is what I am trying to do feasible? Can the trackpoint be brought into play? Any suggestions regarding a way forward would be apprciated (a more modern laptop is out unless I win the lottery!) There should be more info in the Xorg log. If you can switch to a terminal after a failed KDM startup, you can run egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get a list of all errors and warnings. Post this output here and we (hopefully) will know what is wrong. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 20:24:54 +, john gennard wrote: I have an IBM T20 Laptop and want to put on it Etch (Kernel 2.6.18-3) with Kde. I'm writing this from Gnome on my T20---KDE should work just as well once X is running. It finds my Trackpoint, which works fine. I've never tried an external mouse; you'll have to futz around with to get that running. Here's my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, with all the fat cut out. I don't really know what's going on here, since it's mainly cut past, with some Ubuntu device-recognition thrown in. It seems some flesh went too, since this config runs only in 1024x768. I used to be able to get 640x480 and 800x600 using Ctrl-Alt-+ or Ctrl-Alt--. I can give you the whole thing, unabridged, if you want, once you get this running. Hope this helps. - Begin XF86Config-4 -- Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse # PS/2 Mouse using /dev/input/mice in Kernel 2.6 # Serial Mouse not detected #InputDeviceUSB Mouse CorePointer #InputDevice Mouse CorePointer EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AllowMouseOpenFail true EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX #Various additional fonts omitted---add back # whatever you need. EndSection #These may differ depending on the packages you # install. All I know is they Work For Me (tm). Section Module Load ddc # ddc probing of monitor Load GLcore Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load bitmap # bitmap-fonts Load speedo Load type1 Load freetype Load record EndSection #This is the Trackpoint... Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol PS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 Option DPMS true HorizSync28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker. #ModeLines for resolutions not available to the T20 # screen omitted. # Default modes distilled from # VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor # Timing, version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998. # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $ # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x35031.5 640 672 736 832350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync # 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x40031.5 640 672 736 832400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync # 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz ModeLine 640x48025.2 640 656 752 800480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 640x48031.5 640 664 704 832480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz ModeLine 640x48031.5 640 656 720 840480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync # 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz ModeLine 640x48036.0 640 696 752 832480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync # 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz ModeLine 800x60036.0 800 824 896 1024600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz ModeLine 800x60040.0 800 840 968 1056600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz ModeLine 800x60050.0 800 856 976 1040600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz ModeLine 800x60049.5 800 816 896 1056600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz ModeLine 800x60056.3 800 832
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
Douglas Tutty wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:15:57AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. You don't _need_ a broadband connection. You can even do it without any connection at install time. I'm on dial-up with a wonky phone line. Rather than risk the install dying due to a failed line, I just do a minimal install with the netinst.iso then install from within the minimal system. If you haven't got broadband you will need to be patient! It takes me 2 - 3 hours to install Etch over broadband. I installed Sarge once using a 56k dialup and it took a whole day. -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 10:18:28AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:15:57AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. If you haven't got broadband you will need to be patient! It takes me 2 - 3 hours to install Etch over broadband. I installed Sarge once using a 56k dialup and it took a whole day. Just to see (and to rearrange my raid/lvm setup), I installed Etch amd64 RC1 last night and chose a mirror and had it install the whole standard system from within the installer. It took 7 hrs. I imagine that if I had asked it to install Gnome it could have taken a week. To me, the goal of an install is to get the basic system installed so I can add stuff to it. It would be __very__ handy if there was a standard task in the task lists (or a metapackage) of aptitude that corresponded to the standard system task in tasksel during the install. If you forgo using a mirror during the netinst.iso install, you get a very basic system but one with enough to get more on it, with your drives and kernel setup. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:20:46AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 10:18:28AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:15:57AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. If you haven't got broadband you will need to be patient! It takes me 2 - 3 hours to install Etch over broadband. I installed Sarge once using a 56k dialup and it took a whole day. Just to see (and to rearrange my raid/lvm setup), I installed Etch amd64 RC1 last night and chose a mirror and had it install the whole standard system from within the installer. It took 7 hrs. I imagine that if I had asked it to install Gnome it could have taken a week. broadband or dial-up? my last install took me about 2 hours (I think, I was doing other stuff) on broadband rated at 6Mbps download (comcast cable internet). To me, the goal of an install is to get the basic system installed so I can add stuff to it. It would be __very__ handy if there was a standard task in the task lists (or a metapackage) of aptitude that corresponded to the standard system task in tasksel during the install. why not just unselect everything but manual package installation in tasksel. that's what i do. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
From: Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about installing etch Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:20:46 -0500 On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 10:18:28AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:15:57AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. If you haven't got broadband you will need to be patient! It takes me 2 - 3 hours to install Etch over broadband. I installed Sarge once using a 56k dialup and it took a whole day. Dear Debianists, Thank you for all this advice I installed the RC1 version of Etch over the internet using a netinstall CD I downloaded. It took me 1 hour to download the netinstall CD image. Installing the OS was quite fast. Downloading the packages from the internet once the install got underway took about 1 hour and ten minutes with the broadband connection I use. The whole install including farting around took about 2 hours I guess. I could have stuck with Sarge but I got this pesky problem of not being to be able configure the printer properly. I did install gimp print but it didn't solve the problem. I then realised that studying the manuals for Cups, Foomatic and also the file locations for ppd files supplied by gimprint could take quite a long time. Longer than installling Etch where gutenprint would be included automatically and might solve the problem. It did. Etch is very good. I think it is much better than Fedora Core 6 which did not install iptables properly and so is not secure. Regards, Michael Fothergill Just to see (and to rearrange my raid/lvm setup), I installed Etch amd64 RC1 last night and chose a mirror and had it install the whole standard system from within the installer. It took 7 hrs. I imagine that if I had asked it to install Gnome it could have taken a week. To me, the goal of an install is to get the basic system installed so I can add stuff to it. It would be __very__ handy if there was a standard task in the task lists (or a metapackage) of aptitude that corresponded to the standard system task in tasksel during the install. If you forgo using a mirror during the netinst.iso install, you get a very basic system but one with enough to get more on it, with your drives and kernel setup. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's Hotmail's 10th Birthday! Come and play Pass the Parcel http://www.msnpasstheparcel.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. Have a look at section 4.2 in http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Installing_Debian_on_a_small_partition for what to expect for a network install for Sarge - Etch is similar. -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
* Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [061214 04:26]: Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. In general, every image has an installer. To the best of my knowledge, there is no network installer as such; rather, the installer allows installation from the network or from CD, the choice being made by the user performing the installation. Also, to the best of my knowledge, the installer is not release-specific. After you boot from the first CD, you are free to make the installation from CDs corresponding to any build, or (if doing a netinstall) from the build currently in the Debian archives. If you already have downloaded the ISO image for the first CD of Etch, you can burn a CD and do a netinstall from that CD; you don't need a netinstall CD. The advantage of using a netinstall CD: (1) The ISO image is smaller, so it takes less time to download. (2) It may provide a later version of the Etch installer; read the release notes. A while back, I downloaded (with jigdo) a set of ISO images, burned the image first to CD, and, at the end of the installation, discovered that the installer was broken and that the installation could not be completed. The work-around was to revert to the previous set of CD images, and thus, the previous version of the installer. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:15:57AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Did you download the Etch RC1 installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Choose netinst CD image (100-150 MB). Burn the ISO image to a CD. Boot from the CD and press F3 at the prompt. You can choose a curses-bases installer or a GUI installer. The installer will install all the latest packages in Etch directly from the repository. You will need a broadband connection. You don't _need_ a broadband connection. You can even do it without any connection at install time. I'm on dial-up with a wonky phone line. Rather than risk the install dying due to a failed line, I just do a minimal install with the netinst.iso then install from within the minimal system. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:34:00PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? Unless you have good reasons to, don't. Time spent waiting for the full CD-1 to download can be used constructively in your current OS; time waiting for many of the same packages to download during an install cannot. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dumb question about installing etch....
Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Suggestions appreciated. Regards Michael Fothergill _ Find Singles In Your Area Now With Match.com! msnuk.match.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? I have never tried to install Etch. Suggestions appreciated. Regards Michael Fothergill _ Find Singles In Your Area Now With Match.com! msnuk.match.com Hello Michael Having just installed the daily snapshot of the Net install 07 December, I found it was a pretty straight-forward business: ncurses interface and responding to a series of prompts. On most systems I understand that the default options are likely to be correct. There are Debian-specific tips 'n' tricks, but by and large those are post-installation. I come from a Slackware background though, and it uses the same ncurses install UI so I was okay with that. YMMV. I would suggest that, if you haven't already done so, at least skim through the reference on how to install on the Debian site, and allow yourself an installation dry run just to familiarise yourself with the process and options in situ. But, really, if you have any experience with Linux, you'll find it reassuringly familiar. HtH /A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about installing etch....
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:34:00PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debianists, If I wanted to install etch as a net install, how do I do this? On the installation web page there is a choice of a weekly snapshot or a daily built image. The daily built image has a netinstall CD in it. Is there a netinstall CD for the weekly one? nope. doesn't look like it. its either rc1 or daily build. I have never tried to install Etch. Suggestions appreciated. don't you already have sarge installed? you can just upgrade your way to etch without re-installing. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
First of all, thanks to you all. I've tried installgui acpi=off tasksel/first=kde-desktop The installation starts without complaining, but kde is not installed. Searching with synaptic, there is no metapackage called kde-desktop. I mispelled something? There is any documentation about the booting parameters? (in the F1-F10 help screens there is nothing about tasksel) Thanks Mirto Gustavo Franco wrote: On 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: If the user wants to use the GUI frontend it would be ''installgui tasksel/first=kde-desktop', right? Couldn't we change the options adding 'installdesktop', 'installguidesktop', 'installdesktopkde' and 'installguidesktopkde' ? Sounds like a combinational explosion to me. I imagine syslinux has some upper bound on the number of supported labels. Don't see the benefit. When leaving a conference, being asked 'hey, how can i install kde/gnome desktop by default?' i would be able to answer 'type installdesktop or installdesktopkde and press enter'. This is way more user friendly than 'install tasksel/first=gnome-desktop' that a human won't be able to remember if said that way i wrote above. It happens, it really happens all the time and actually i've no answer. regards, -- stratus -- __ Mirto Silvio Busico ICT Consultant Tel. +39 333 4562651 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
Hi all, How cai I select Kde instead of Gnome during a fresh install? For now I have to install the base system and then install Kde. Then I have to swicth the login interface. Any hint? Thanks Mirto -- __ Mirto Silvio Busico ICT Consultant Tel. +39 333 4562651 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: How cai I select Kde instead of Gnome during a fresh install? Type install tasksel/first=kde-desktop at the installer's boot prompt. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
On 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: How cai I select Kde instead of Gnome during a fresh install? Type install tasksel/first=kde-desktop at the installer's boot prompt. Hi Joey, If the user wants to use the GUI frontend it would be ''installgui tasksel/first=kde-desktop', right? Couldn't we change the options adding 'installdesktop', 'installguidesktop', 'installdesktopkde' and 'installguidesktopkde' ? Yeah, looks ugly at first, but is way better to a end-user remember than the line preseeding the tasksel answer, IMHO. Thoughts? regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
Gustavo Franco wrote: If the user wants to use the GUI frontend it would be ''installgui tasksel/first=kde-desktop', right? Couldn't we change the options adding 'installdesktop', 'installguidesktop', 'installdesktopkde' and 'installguidesktopkde' ? Sounds like a combinational explosion to me. I imagine syslinux has some upper bound on the number of supported labels. Don't see the benefit. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
On 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: If the user wants to use the GUI frontend it would be ''installgui tasksel/first=kde-desktop', right? Couldn't we change the options adding 'installdesktop', 'installguidesktop', 'installdesktopkde' and 'installguidesktopkde' ? Sounds like a combinational explosion to me. I imagine syslinux has some upper bound on the number of supported labels. Don't see the benefit. When leaving a conference, being asked 'hey, how can i install kde/gnome desktop by default?' i would be able to answer 'type installdesktop or installdesktopkde and press enter'. This is way more user friendly than 'install tasksel/first=gnome-desktop' that a human won't be able to remember if said that way i wrote above. It happens, it really happens all the time and actually i've no answer. regards, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
Gustavo Franco wrote: When leaving a conference, being asked 'hey, how can i install kde/gnome desktop by default?' i would be able to answer 'type installdesktop or installdesktopkde and press enter'. This is way more user friendly than 'install tasksel/first=gnome-desktop' that a human won't be able to remember if said that way i wrote above. It happens, it really happens all the time and actually i've no answer. I could add a tasksel/first preseed alias, then install tasks=gnome-desktop -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Etch: how to select KDE instead of GNOME?
On 8/22/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: When leaving a conference, being asked 'hey, how can i install kde/gnome desktop by default?' i would be able to answer 'type installdesktop or installdesktopkde and press enter'. This is way more user friendly than 'install tasksel/first=gnome-desktop' that a human won't be able to remember if said that way i wrote above. It happens, it really happens all the time and actually i've no answer. I could add a tasksel/first preseed alias, then install tasks=gnome-desktop sounds great, Joey! thanks in advance, -- stratus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
