Re: International Characters from a US Keyboard?
On Thursday 26 August 2004 12:29 am, David Wright wrote: French. Is there a way to produce the standard accented characters (at least in Gnome applications) using keyboard combinations? I'm very tired of mousing up to the little gnome character pallet utility every few words when write a multi-page document. I'd like to be able to do something like ALT- + O to produce an umlauted O. I haven't used GNOME in years, and I have no idea if the new one still has this or not, but I imagine it almost certainly does. What I do in KDE is use the keyboard layout switcher to flip between languages. This seems like a lot of trouble perhaps, but if you write at any length in other languages it's really much more convenient than any other way of generating the special characters. I used to type circles around people who were doing the alt-0123 thing back in school (foreign language major.) I've just checked, and the Spanish layout seems suitable for German too, I think. You could make do just learning one alternative. Je peux crire en franais, o en espaol, and if memory serves, German needs only the umlaut and the thing, with maybe an accute accent or two somewhere or other. I think I can type everything from here in the Spanish layout. I can't find an oe thing, but that's one French can live without anyway. By the way, Windows has had this feature nailed down pat for about the last decade. Same key combinations, doesn't depend on the window manager, session manager, or application. Amazing. :-) Mayhap, but it's still impractical for anything other than very occasional use. I had a keyboard switcher flummy for Windows too. It's worth the time to learn if you do anything more than the most trivial little bit of some other language. -- Michael McIntyre Silvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/
Re: Re: International Characters from a US Keyboard?
Thanks for the tip! It works. Looking at various web pages on xmodmap, it even looks possible, via a slightly more complex syntax, to define a compose key, so that all the Windows key combinations for all the Latin-1 accented characters could be reproduced. Is there some reason the Debian standard xmodmap.us doesn't ship this way? (And, or course, all the other xmodmap.XX files with the corresponding Windows conventions for those locales?) Is it just an aversion to anything Microsoft has done, or is there some better reason not to do this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: International Characters from a US Keyboard?
On August 26, 2004 00:21, David Wright wrote: Thanks for the tip! It works. Looking at various web pages on xmodmap, it even looks possible, via a slightly more complex syntax, to define a compose key, so that all the Windows key combinations for all the Latin-1 accented characters could be reproduced. Is there some reason the Debian standard xmodmap.us doesn't ship this way? (And, or course, all the other xmodmap.XX files with the corresponding Windows conventions for those locales?) Is it just an aversion to anything Microsoft has done, or is there some better reason not to do this? I think you would find this of interest, it is what I used to set up my keyboard http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/services/software/x11/xmodmap_en/ Hope this helps, RJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: International Characters from a US Keyboard?
Hi David,
I had a similar problem when I was switching to gnome 2.6. Before I had
set up the keyboard to produce German Umlauts via xmodmap, but for some
reason my /etc/X11/xmodmap has not been read any longer.
So I adapted the xkb configuration do do the stuff:
In /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc I created a file called custom_us with the
following contents:
partial default alphanumeric_keys
xkb_symbols basic {
// basierend auf US Keyboard mit 104 Tasten (Euro-Layout)
include us(pc104euro)
name[Group1]= US/ASCII;
name[Group2]= International customized;
// Umlaute
override key AD07 { [ u, U ], [ udiaeresis, Udiaeresis ] };
override key AD09 { [ o, O ], [ odiaeresis, Odiaeresis ] };
override key AC01 { [ a, A ], [ adiaeresis, Adiaeresis ] };
override key AC02 { [ s, S ], [ ssharp, section ] };
// Waehrung
override key AE05 { [ 5, percent ], [ EuroSign, cent ] };
override key AD03 { [ e, E ], [ EuroSign, cent] };
// Sonderzeichen
override key AD04 { [ r, R ], [ registered ] };
override key AB03 { [ c, C ], [ copyright ] };
override key AD05 { [ t, T ], [ trademark ] };
override key AB07 { [ m, M ], [ mu ] };
// Akzente
override key AE06 { [ 6, asciicircum ], [] };
override key AC11 { [ apostrophe, quotedbl ], [] };
override key TLDE { [ grave, asciitilde ], [] };
override key AE10 { [ 0, parenright ], [ degree ] };
override key AB08 { [ comma, less ], [] };
override key AB09 { [ period, greater ], [] };
override key AB10 { [ slash, question ], [] };
};
and in XF86Config-4 i simply selected custum_us instead of us
Works great here.
Just in case xmodmap shows similar problems as on my machine.
HTH
Christian
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International Characters from a US Keyboard?
I run the Gnome session manager on a Debian sid machine attached to a US keyboard. When I am writing in English, which is most of the time, that's fine. But I also often write in German and occasionally in French. Is there a way to produce the standard accented characters (at least in Gnome applications) using keyboard combinations? I'm very tired of mousing up to the little gnome character pallet utility every few words when write a multi-page document. I'd like to be able to do something like ALT- + O to produce an umlauted O. By the way, Windows has had this feature nailed down pat for about the last decade. Same key combinations, doesn't depend on the window manager, session manager, or application. Amazing. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: International Characters from a US Keyboard?
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 09:29:00PM -0700, David Wright wrote: I run the Gnome session manager on a Debian sid machine attached to a US keyboard. When I am writing in English, which is most of the time, that's fine. But I also often write in German and occasionally in French. Is there a way to produce the standard accented characters (at least in Gnome applications) using keyboard combinations? You can use the Multi_key on your keyboard. (You might have to assign a key to it with xmodmap). Multi - O - = Ö Multi - e - ` = è I have it assigned to that Menu key. I'm very tired of mousing up to the little gnome character pallet utility every few words when write a multi-page document. I'd like to be able to do something like ALT- + O to produce an umlauted O. Heh - there's an xmodmap command to put Multi on alt. By the way, Windows has had this feature nailed down pat for about the last decade. Same key combinations, doesn't depend on the window manager, session manager, or application. Amazing. :-) X is frighteningly configurable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
