Re: It's all so confusing, so should I get a CD Distribution?

1998-03-16 Thread shaul
> OK, I'm finding all this Linux thing really difficult because I'm using it
> on my home computer and have to go to my mother's college to download
> things, and I'm a total newbie  so I
> don't have a clue when it comes to recompiling the Kernel to put NTFS
> compatibility on, and installing X Window etc. Therefore, I am considering
> buying a distribution.
> 
> 1) Would you recommend a distribution disk for a newbie?
I Think a newbie (and also others with out fast and handy internet connection) 
should have a CD. Take a look at www.debian.org. Some commercial companies 
that I recall selling CDs are www.chaepbytes.com, www.lsl.com. I think that 
those CD cost about $20 or less, mostly for overseas shipment.

> 2) Are there different ones to get? 
Yes. The differences are the addition to the "standard" Linux software. For 
example, There might be an "office" software for Linux, or an integrated clone 
of Motif, or a book (www.linuxpress.com), to name only some possibilities.

> 3) I know this is a Debian list, but do you recommend Debian for
> user-friendliness? What are its advantages/disadv. ? I read an article about
> Red Hat being good, but it's expensive (£50 = $85)
I would recommend Debian for user-friendliness. The fact that a package tells 
you what its dependencies and if they are fullfiled seems to me very user 
freindly. And the new deity are said to overcome the difficult sides of 
dselect.
By the way, I think that an official Red Hat can be bought for $40 or even 
$20, without shipment. It may be that the mentioned $85 includes more then a 
bare Red Hat distribution.

> 4) Can I dual-boot Windows NT and Debian?
I believe you can althgough I never tried to. 


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Re: It's all so confusing, so should I get a CD Distribution?

1998-03-16 Thread Damon Muller
G'day

>1) Would you recommend a distribution disk for a newbie?
>
>2) Are there different ones to get? 
>
>3) I know this is a Debian list, but do you recommend Debian for
>user-friendliness? What are its advantages/disadv. ? I read an article about
>Red Hat being good, but it's expensive (£50 = $85)

Well, I have now installed both RedHat 4.2 and Debian 1.3, and found them
both pretty easy to install (actually, debian was a bit of a pain, but only
because I was using an old laptop with a small HD and no CD-ROM!), and if I
had to install one again, i think i'd probably go with debian... 

Redhat is pretty easy to install, but it seems to me (even tho I've only
been using Linux for a few months) that the guts of Debian is a little
easier to get a hand on than RedHat... RedHat has some nice X-Windows
configuration tools, but using them you never really learn what's going on,
and changing something by hand then becomes quite difficuly...

>4) Can I dual-boot Windows NT and Debian?

Yes, you certainly can... My system boots between RedHat, Win95 and WinNT4.
There is actually a HOWTO that describes how to add Linux to the NT boot
loader, which it pretty cool :)

NTFS support in Linux is still a little shakey (seems to work, but i
wouldn't want to bet important data on it)

YMMV, but I tended to find that Linux was easist to set up on a disk by
itself (that's if you have a HD to spare...) but lots of ppl seem to be
using dual-boot systems, so I guess it can't be too hard!

Anyway, hope that helped a little...

damon



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Re: It's all so confusing, so should I get a CD Distribution?

1998-03-15 Thread mwb
On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Tristan Day  wrote:

> OK, I'm finding all this Linux thing really difficult because I'm using it
> on my home computer and have to go to my mother's college to download
> things, and I'm a total newbie  so I
> don't have a clue when it comes to recompiling the Kernel to put NTFS
> compatibility on, and installing X Window etc. Therefore, I am considering
> buying a distribution.

You should still compile a kernel with a distribution.  I kernel
compiled for your system will be better than the generic ones provided
to load an boot an installation.  Besides, if you don't compile your own,
you probably won't be able to use your sound card, and stuff not provided
with an installation kernel.
> 
> 1) Would you recommend a distribution disk for a newbie?

If you want the 'easy' way out, buy a hard drive that already has
linux installed on it.  Otherwise, bite the bullet, read the docs,
and ask questions to the list.
> 
> 2) Are there different ones to get? 
> 
> 3) I know this is a Debian list, but do you recommend Debian for
> user-friendliness? What are its advantages/disadv. ? I read an article about
> Red Hat being good, but it's expensive (£50 = $85)

I think we are a friendly to users.

Debian has better program dependancy/conflict checks than Red-Hat.
Red-Hat has better commercial software support.  You can download
bot of them for free, or find them on disks cheap, but if you want
some of the commercial software/support, thats what jacks up the price
on red-hat.

> 
> 4) Can I dual-boot Windows NT and Debian?

Yes.

Mark



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Re: It's all so confusing, so should I get a CD Distribution?

1998-03-15 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Tristan Day  wrote:

> 1) Would you recommend a distribution disk for a newbie?

Yes.

> 2) Are there different ones to get? 

Quite a few: RedHat, SUSE, Debian, Slackware, ...


> 3) I know this is a Debian list, but do you recommend Debian for
> user-friendliness? What are its advantages/disadv. ? I read an article about
> Red Hat being good, but it's expensive (£50 = $85)

Since this is a debian list, debian of course!  It still is difficult
to install for a UNIX novice.

> 4) Can I dual-boot Windows NT and Debian?

Yes.  There is a HOWTO which describes the steps required.

There are comparisons of the different distributions available.
Search the WWW.

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It's all so confusing, so should I get a CD Distribution?

1998-03-15 Thread Tristan Day
OK, I'm finding all this Linux thing really difficult because I'm using it
on my home computer and have to go to my mother's college to download
things, and I'm a total newbie  so I
don't have a clue when it comes to recompiling the Kernel to put NTFS
compatibility on, and installing X Window etc. Therefore, I am considering
buying a distribution.

1) Would you recommend a distribution disk for a newbie?

2) Are there different ones to get? 

3) I know this is a Debian list, but do you recommend Debian for
user-friendliness? What are its advantages/disadv. ? I read an article about
Red Hat being good, but it's expensive (£50 = $85)

4) Can I dual-boot Windows NT and Debian?


Thanks.




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