Re: K Desktop Environment
Hi. I have tried the latest KDE .deb packages there and have found that the kfm file manager locks up and core-dumps on a regular basis. I have had more luck compiling from scratch, but currently I can't get kpanel to compile because I seem to be missing something called 'msgfmt'. Apparently my friends who have openwindows have it, but I haven't been able to locate it in Debian. Finally, KDE is impressive, but I think before I switch from my current WM to KDE for good, I would like to see them slim it down and make it run faster. Right now, even with 32M, I really notice that it is taking a big chunk out of my memory, and when I have other fat apps like Netscape Communicator going at the same time, the whole system really suffers. Ben. On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone... I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was very impressed with some of the things I saw. I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package form... For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it is a windows manager + other components which run on top of X and the QT graphics toolkit. From what I could see, the current applications seem to be of high quality, and looks like it has a lot of promise... Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: K Desktop Environment
If you still need msgfmt, install the xview-dev package. Apart from the usual libc5 and X packages xview-dev also needs the main xview package. The xview packages are in the X11 section. Ben wrote: Hi. I have tried the latest KDE .deb packages there and have found that the kfm file manager locks up and core-dumps on a regular basis. I have had more luck compiling from scratch, but currently I can't get kpanel to compile because I seem to be missing something called 'msgfmt'. Apparently my friends who have openwindows have it, but I haven't been able to locate it in Debian. // Heikki -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: K Desktop Environment
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone... I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was very impressed with some of the things I saw. I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package form... The debian package is fairly old. I strongly recommend you to download the actual tar.gz source distribution. I've used KDE on S.u.S.E. 5.0 and RedHat 4.2. It can be compiled without problems and is very usable even for an alpha release. A german version of debian, JF Lehmanns debian gnu/linux, also contains KDE. So it should work with debian as well. Please note that you also need the Qt Library. Regards Marc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: K Desktop Environment
Ahh. Thanks! That was a bit obscure. I did manage to get a copy from someone else, but I'd prefer to have the Debian version. I have another question about KDE: So far I have been unsuccessful at building a KDE which has a working kpanel. Am I missing something? kpanel seems to chew up all available memory and I end up having to kill it off. I'm wondering if this is something peculiar to Debian, or whether it's just because kpanel is currently in an unstable state. I have tried two different distributions since the end of August to no avail. Ben. On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Heikki Vatiainen wrote: If you still need msgfmt, install the xview-dev package. Apart from the usual libc5 and X packages xview-dev also needs the main xview package. The xview packages are in the X11 section. Ben wrote: Hi. I have tried the latest KDE .deb packages there and have found that the kfm file manager locks up and core-dumps on a regular basis. I have had more luck compiling from scratch, but currently I can't get kpanel to compile because I seem to be missing something called 'msgfmt'. Apparently my friends who have openwindows have it, but I haven't been able to locate it in Debian. // Heikki -- Heikki Vatiainen * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tampere University of Technology * Tampere, Finland -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
K Desktop Environment
Hello everyone... I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was very impressed with some of the things I saw. I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package form... For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it is a windows manager + other components which run on top of X and the QT graphics toolkit. From what I could see, the current applications seem to be of high quality, and looks like it has a lot of promise... Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: K Desktop Environment
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], writes: Hello everyone... I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was very impressed with some of the things I saw. I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package form... I tried using it for a while instead of fvwm. It still deserves its `alpha' designation, in my opinion. It has a tendency to hang at times. The kdehelp browser can't cope with relative links. No doubt such things will be improved in due course. It is a pleasant environment, but not yet very stable. I'm not sure what it has got that should make me change permanently from fvwm. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Make it idiot-proof, and someone will breed a better idiot. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: K Desktop Environment
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:06:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone... I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was very impressed with some of the things I saw. I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package form... Yes ... I use it all the time... it's kinda sorta stable (ok I'll explain) it's prety much stable ... I have about one or two seg faults / lockups a week ... however when it locks it locks so well you have to flip the power swich ... It also has a problem ... Kpanel will core dump when you exit it... Kfm is good if not a little slow on my 486x66 ... I like it Very flexable ... For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it is a windows manager + other components which run on top of X and the QT graphics toolkit. From what I could see, the current applications seem to be of high quality, and looks like it has a lot of promise... Yes ... although development seems to have slowed down somewhat ... -Kevin, kc5vxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Col, 3:23 Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.the-spa.com/shawn.fumo/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .