Re: KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-21 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 21:49, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
snip
Thank you thank you thank you! After messing around in dependency hell 
(and actually having KDE and KDM removed) I finally have KDE3! :)


I look at upgrading, but it has the libvorbis0a package situation, which
will remove too many applications I use far more frequently than I touch
any aspect of KDE. As such, I'll hold off until that is fixed up...
Well, the only program that got removed that I'll actually miss (sorta 
kinda) is the KOffice group of programs.

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KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-20 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
I added

deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main

to my apt sources.list so I can upgrade to KDE 3.1.1.

Ran apt-get update to make sure everything was in order (had to run it a 
few times to run out a few duplicate entries), getting a successful 
update message.

So I run 'apt-get upgrade' to (finally) upgrade to the latest KDE (my 
mouth is drooling for the new KDE, I've been waiting to use it since it 
was released). Everything looks like it's going to be okay. 3 upgrades 
(a bit small, I admit), with a list of files being held back (no reason 
given). Once the three packages are updated, I run apt-get upgrade 
again. Again I'm told that a group of files (list at end) are being held 
back and 45 packages weren't upgraded! Am I doing something wrong?

Here is the list of packages that are being held back:

jan-jr-ent:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  ark artsbuilder karm kate kcalc kcharselect kcoloredit kcron kdebase 
kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdf
  kdict kdm kedit kfind kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kjots kmail 
kmix knewsticker knode
  knotes konqueror konsole korganizer korn kpackage kpaint kruler 
kscreensaver kshisen ksirc
  ksnapshot ksysv ktimer kuser kview libxine0 mpeglib noatun secpolicy
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45  not upgraded.
jan-jr-ent:~#

There is no difference in messages if I run from tty1-6 or from konsole 
as su -

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Re: KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-20 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Joseph A Nagy Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030320 20:49]:
 I added
 
 deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main
 
 to my apt sources.list so I can upgrade to KDE 3.1.1.
 
 Ran apt-get update to make sure everything was in order (had to run it a 
 few times to run out a few duplicate entries), getting a successful 
 update message.
 
 So I run 'apt-get upgrade' to (finally) upgrade to the latest KDE (my 
 mouth is drooling for the new KDE, I've been waiting to use it since it 
 was released). Everything looks like it's going to be okay. 3 upgrades 
 (a bit small, I admit), with a list of files being held back (no reason 
 given). Once the three packages are updated, I run apt-get upgrade 
 again. Again I'm told that a group of files (list at end) are being held 
 back and 45 packages weren't upgraded! Am I doing something wrong?
 
 Here is the list of packages that are being held back:
 
 jan-jr-ent:~# apt-get upgrade
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages have been kept back
   ark artsbuilder karm kate kcalc kcharselect kcoloredit kcron kdebase 
 kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdf
   kdict kdm kedit kfind kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kjots kmail 
 kmix knewsticker knode
   knotes konqueror konsole korganizer korn kpackage kpaint kruler 
 kscreensaver kshisen ksirc
   ksnapshot ksysv ktimer kuser kview libxine0 mpeglib noatun secpolicy
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45  not upgraded.
 jan-jr-ent:~#

I just read on debianplanet that KDE in sid is finally complete. So I
removed my entry for ~ccheney's debian repository and did the apt-get
update  upgrade. I get dozens of KDE packages held back. 

Since I was getting them from ~ccheney, does that mean my currently
installed packages are still newer ??


Hall


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Re: KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Joseph A Nagy Jr said:
 I added

 deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main

 jan-jr-ent:~# apt-get upgrade
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages have been kept back
ark artsbuilder karm kate kcalc kcharselect kcoloredit kcron kdebase
 kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdf
kdict kdm kedit kfind kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kjots kmail
 kmix knewsticker knode
knotes konqueror konsole korganizer korn kpackage kpaint kruler
 kscreensaver kshisen ksirc
ksnapshot ksysv ktimer kuser kview libxine0 mpeglib noatun secpolicy
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45  not upgraded.
 jan-jr-ent:~#

 There is no difference in messages if I run from tty1-6 or from konsole
 as su -


in situations like this, if theres a package I want, and it doesn't
upgrade from running apt-get upgrade, I usually call it via install

e.g.

apt-get install ark artsbuilder karm ..etc..

you probably only have to do a couple, chances are that the packages
depend on some common thing that for some reason the system doesn't
want to install by itself. but the specific instruction to install
a specific package, in my experience, will trigger the system to
do so. Be careful, take a look at what it will install, I reccmend
doing an apt-get -s first, to simulate what will be installed.

nate




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Re: KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-20 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
nate wrote:
snip
in situations like this, if theres a package I want, and it doesn't
upgrade from running apt-get upgrade, I usually call it via install
e.g.

apt-get install ark artsbuilder karm ..etc..

you probably only have to do a couple, chances are that the packages
depend on some common thing that for some reason the system doesn't
want to install by itself. but the specific instruction to install
a specific package, in my experience, will trigger the system to
do so. Be careful, take a look at what it will install, I reccmend
doing an apt-get -s first, to simulate what will be installed.
nate






Thank you thank you thank you! After messing around in dependency hell 
(and actually having KDE and KDM removed) I finally have KDE3! :)

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Re: KDE Not Upgrading

2003-03-20 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 21:49, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
 nate wrote:
 snip
  
  in situations like this, if theres a package I want, and it doesn't
  upgrade from running apt-get upgrade, I usually call it via install
  
  e.g.
  
  apt-get install ark artsbuilder karm ..etc..
  
  you probably only have to do a couple, chances are that the packages
  depend on some common thing that for some reason the system doesn't
  want to install by itself. but the specific instruction to install
  a specific package, in my experience, will trigger the system to
  do so. Be careful, take a look at what it will install, I reccmend
  doing an apt-get -s first, to simulate what will be installed.
  
  nate
  
  
  
  
 
 
 Thank you thank you thank you! After messing around in dependency hell 
 (and actually having KDE and KDM removed) I finally have KDE3! :)

I look at upgrading, but it has the libvorbis0a package situation, which
will remove too many applications I use far more frequently than I touch
any aspect of KDE. As such, I'll hold off until that is fixed up...
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