Re: Keeping stable stable.
Stan Hoeppner a écrit : You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough Oddly ? The recommended upgrade path described in the Release notes is usually more complex than just running apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade. Also it allows you to choose when to upgrade to the new stable, preferably (in my case) after the first point release which fixes the biggest bugs that were not discovered during the testing phase. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de754b9.6050...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On 02/06/11 01:07, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? Be careful, when there is a major upgrade from one stable to the next one, the upgrade path might be more complicated (eg. from lenny to squeeze, you had to upgrade in two steps due to the changes in udev). If you want to keep a stable version, you'd be better to get the distrib name in the sources.list, studying the upgradepath when a new stable distrib is released, and doing this upgrade when and how fits best for you (this might imply some service interrupt, which you would not want to happen at the wrong time). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de75631.7060...@rail.eu.org
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 12:07:40AM +0100, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? One of the advantages of sticking with the named release in your sources.list is that when the next release becomes stable you can still install/update/etc. your old system until such time as you are ready to sit down and do the dist-upgrade to the new stable in a planned manner. It's important to plan your major updates and make sure you have time to fix any unexpected issues which may arise before hitting the return key on 'apt-get dist-upgrade', even on your own [non-production] machines to avoid headaches and panicking when things do not go as intended. Laurence -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110602091944.gb77...@diss-84-211.lut.ac.uk
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:07:40 -0400, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. That seems a contradictory selection of words :-) Stable is _now_ squeeze but it will be wheezy as soon as it gets released. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? To keep your system in the stable branch regardless Debian's development cycle you need to use codenames in your sources.list file, i.e., squeeze. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.02.11.29...@gmail.com
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Stan Hoeppner a écrit : You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough Oddly ? It's another of the strange idioms of the English language. That usage of oddly enough actually means something more like and it should be blatantly obvious why that is the case. Without the enough tagged on it would really mean oddly. Cheers, Tom -- ignisecond, n: The overlapping moment of time when the hand is locking the car door even as the brain is saying, my keys are in there! -- Rich Hall, Sniglets signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On 06/02/11 at 02:08pm, Tom Furie wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Stan Hoeppner a écrit : You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough Oddly ? It's another of the strange idioms of the English language. That usage of oddly enough actually means something more like and it should be blatantly obvious why that is the case. Without the enough tagged on it would really mean oddly. Not to get into language lessons, but although it is frequently (mis-)used this way, oddly enough really does mean the same thing as oddly. It is just very rarely used without sarcasm or irony. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/11 at 02:08pm, Tom Furie wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:15:37AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Stan Hoeppner a écrit : You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough Oddly ? It's another of the strange idioms of the English language. That usage of oddly enough actually means something more like and it should be blatantly obvious why that is the case. Without the enough tagged on it would really mean oddly. Not to get into language lessons, but although it is frequently (mis-)used this way, oddly enough really does mean the same thing as oddly. It is just very rarely used without sarcasm or irony. Or by people who can't write or aren't paying attention. It's called unnecessary words. One of the best things a proof reader can do is recommend the deletion of things like that. IMHO Though, I'm not writing anything professional here and am guessing the poster wasn't either so I'll chalk it up to not paying attention.
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On 06/01/2011 04:07 PM, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? I'd stick with Squeeze in sources.list. That way you can upgrade to the next Stable release at your convenience. If you use stable instead of squeeze, your system will be less stable because the upgrade procedure is more complicated than changing sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade, and you could risk breakage when Stable switches from Squeeze to Wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de7e304.7040...@gmail.com
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 12:39:15AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/1/2011 6:07 PM, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? Why make such a change now? It will have no effect for the next ~2 years anyway. You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough, and is what the vast majority of Debian Stable users do, myself included. +1 Don't forget, even when Wheezy becomes the new Stable, Squeeze will still be stable. It'll be called Old Stable and will be supported for a year. You don't need to be in a rush to upgrade the moment the new Stable is released. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110603002358.ga20...@aurora.owens.net
Keeping stable stable.
I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ei3dtakj@ulanbator.myhome.westell.com
Re: Keeping stable stable.
Yes that's all. On Jun 1, 2011 7:15 PM, R. Clayton rvclay...@verizon.net wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ei3dtakj@ulanbator.myhome.westell.com
Re: Keeping stable stable.
R. Clayton writes: Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? Probably not (though I don't know exactly what you are trying to achieve). When the next release occurs the stable link will be abruptly changed to point to Wheezy (which is now testing). Squeeze will then become oldstable but will not change. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aae1t8nv@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Keeping stable stable.
On 6/1/2011 6:07 PM, R. Clayton wrote: I'm running squeeze on a system, and I'd like to keep the system on the stable release independent of what the release is called. I changed all non-commented appearances of squeeze with stable in sources.list; do I need to do anything else? Is this the right approach to take for a perpetually stable system? Why make such a change now? It will have no effect for the next ~2 years anyway. You're much better off simply changing sources.list right before your next distribution upgrade. This is what Debian recommends, oddly enough, and is what the vast majority of Debian Stable users do, myself included. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de72203.9050...@hardwarefreak.com
