Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On 2011-07-11 21:52 +0200, Tech Geek wrote: >> AFAIK the kernel in the installer is >> split into many small packages from the regular linux-image package. So >> the possible differences are version skews when a newer kernel hits the >> archive, and missing modules that are not packaged for the installer. > You are right. I discovered that the pata-modules-* package that ships > with Debian Install disc, did not have the driver module for my RDC > PATA controller and hence it failed to detect it. > > The thing that I find surprising is that the kernel itself > (2.6.32-5-486) has the support for the controller: > CONFIG_PATA_RDC=m > So why does it have to depend on packages like pata-modules to detect > the IDE interface. Can't the kernel detect the type (deviceid) of IDE > interface and load the appropriate module (from it's initrd?) I guess > may be I do not fully understand the installation mechanism. I do not claim to understand it either, but I suppose the installer is actually running from an initramfs, and if a full-blown kernel with all its modules were put there, the memory requirements for installing Debian would increase considerably. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrfo8tb0@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
Sven, > AFAIK the kernel in the installer is > split into many small packages from the regular linux-image package. So > the possible differences are version skews when a newer kernel hits the > archive, and missing modules that are not packaged for the installer. You are right. I discovered that the pata-modules-* package that ships with Debian Install disc, did not have the driver module for my RDC PATA controller and hence it failed to detect it. The thing that I find surprising is that the kernel itself (2.6.32-5-486) has the support for the controller: CONFIG_PATA_RDC=m So why does it have to depend on packages like pata-modules to detect the IDE interface. Can't the kernel detect the type (deviceid) of IDE interface and load the appropriate module (from it's initrd?) I guess may be I do not fully understand the installation mechanism. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calxxvm555wpfa73wemrccnwo2ynt3hjohchdens84qzvurj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On 2011-07-08 22:41 +0200, Tech Geek wrote: >> It should be available at /boot/config-`uname -r` > That would be true after the system installation finishes. What I am > looking for is the config file for the kernel runs the installation > process. For some reasons I suspect that there might be some > difference between the kernel that installs Debian and the kernel that > gets installed on the hard drive. This might indeed be the case, however you will generally not be able to tell that from the kernel config. AFAIK the kernel in the installer is split into many small packages from the regular linux-image package. So the possible differences are version skews when a newer kernel hits the archive, and missing modules that are not packaged for the installer. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aacnwv83@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:41:32 -0700, Tech Geek wrote: >> It should be available at /boot/config-`uname -r` > That would be true after the system installation finishes. What I am > looking for is the config file for the kernel runs the installation > process. For some reasons I suspect that there might be some difference > between the kernel that installs Debian and the kernel that gets > installed on the hard drive. (...) You can compare both by downloading the kernel package and browsing the .deb file using MC, for instance: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.09.10.30...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On 07/08/11 at 02:26pm, Tech Geek wrote: > > It is in the boot directory of the linux-image package, which is on the > > first disk or in the packages section at www.debian.org. > > So, from what you just said, it means that both the kernels, one that > runs from the install disc and the one that gets installed on the hard > drive are exactly the same, am I correct in my understanding? If yes, > then the problem (about install kernel failing to detect my IDE > controller) is somewhere else. Correct. The debian-installer CD for i386 is currently using the kernel from linux-image-2.6.32-5-486. You can download that package and mount/extract the ISO and compare files. ./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-486 from the package should match install.i386/vmlinuz from the ISO. The debian-installer image is automatically generated from current packages, not a custom kernel build, probably to alleviate the very concern you were talking about. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On Fri 08 Jul 2011 at 14:26:25 -0700, Tech Geek wrote: > > It is in the boot directory of the linux-image package, which is on the > > first disk or in the packages section at www.debian.org. > > So, from what you just said, it means that both the kernels, one that > runs from the install disc and the one that gets installed on the hard > drive are exactly the same, am I correct in my understanding? If yes, > then the problem (about install kernel failing to detect my IDE > controller) is somewhere else. For the list of files on the first cd (i386) there is: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/list-cd/ For the kernels available in Squeeze: http://packages.debian.org/stable/kernel/ You can compare and confirm your understanding. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708224126.GF15615@desktop
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
> It is in the boot directory of the linux-image package, which is on the > first disk or in the packages section at www.debian.org. So, from what you just said, it means that both the kernels, one that runs from the install disc and the one that gets installed on the hard drive are exactly the same, am I correct in my understanding? If yes, then the problem (about install kernel failing to detect my IDE controller) is somewhere else. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALXXvm76abPX=bhws_ug1fxxzuihssn9lksgcmcqrzqu8_b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On Fri 08 Jul 2011 at 11:58:00 -0700, Tech Geek wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering where can I find (or view) the .config file for the > kernel (vmlinuz) that comes on the Debian Squeeze install discs. I > tried searching on the internet but nothing came up. It is in the boot directory of the linux-image package, which is on the first disk or in the packages section at www.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708203014.GE15615@desktop
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
> It should be available at /boot/config-`uname -r` That would be true after the system installation finishes. What I am looking for is the config file for the kernel runs the installation process. For some reasons I suspect that there might be some difference between the kernel that installs Debian and the kernel that gets installed on the hard drive. To see what I am talking about, please see the bug report [1]. Thanks. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633128 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calxxvm7+tuvemvmc3pwxzvon0ty-q6g+rqqyhigmnmkm-ev...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
On 07/08/2011 03:58 PM, Tech Geek wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering where can I find (or view) the .config file for the > kernel (vmlinuz) that comes on the Debian Squeeze install discs. I > tried searching on the internet but nothing came up. It should be available at /boot/config-`uname -r` -- "The algorithm to do that is extremely nasty. You might want to mug someone with it." -- M. Devine, Computer Science 340 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e1763bc.6060...@kalinowski.com.br
Kernel Config file for Debian Squeeze Install Disc
Hello, I was wondering where can I find (or view) the .config file for the kernel (vmlinuz) that comes on the Debian Squeeze install discs. I tried searching on the internet but nothing came up. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALXXvm4vA0bMA5d6HkMQsbqXRmVxzGAq=emaezc2ou9m1ky...@mail.gmail.com
