Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
On Sunday 30 July 2006 23:39, Magnus Pedersen wrote: > Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > On Sunday 30 July 2006 16:53, Magnus Pedersen wrote: > >> Bruno Costacurta wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' > >>> or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. > >>> > >>> Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer > >>> is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove > >>> alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. > >>> Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. > >>> > >>> Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log > >>> files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session > >>> / shutdown' are called. > >>> > >>> Bye, > >>> Bruno > >> > >> Is there any difference between shutting down as root or as a normal > >> user? > >> > >> /Magnus > >> -- > >> The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. > > > > Sorry, but I (as recommended) never log as root. > > Bruno > > No, but that's not the same as trying to su to root and then try the > halt command. > > If your problem is related to some permission problem it might go > away if you try this. And then perhaps the problem can be narrowed down. > > /Magnus > -- > The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. Thanks for details. I'll try but definitely difficult to track this problem as it appear time to time. I start to think it's *maybe* related to thermal problem... Bye, Bruno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
On Sunday 30 July 2006 14:25, Bruno Costacurta shared this with us all: >--> Hello, >--> >--> my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' >--> or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. >--> >--> Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer >--> is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove >--> alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. >--> Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. >--> >--> Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log > files ?) --> about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session > / shutdown' --> are called. >--> >--> Bye, >--> Bruno >--> >--> I have two Acer laptops and both shutdown without any problems, and I also live where the heat is intense and similarly find them both very efficient with their cooling. I run etch on one, 3614WLCi and this shuts down by itself, but I have to admit I always do that as root. in the GUI through a shell, "shutdown -h now" Or just get out of the GUI and do similarly. The other an Acer Aspire 1350 has been running sarge since it was unstable, and shutdown the same way. I use both as desktops. Simply because we run on solar power alone. Just being upgraded to Etch now. But maybe doing it the long way doesn't suit everyone. In Fact I don't even know how to do it otherwise now I come to think of it? HTH -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ People ask for criticism, but they only want praise. ..W. Somerset Maugham >>> Linux Debian Etch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
Bruno Costacurta wrote: On Sunday 30 July 2006 16:53, Magnus Pedersen wrote: Bruno Costacurta wrote: Hello, my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / shutdown' are called. Bye, Bruno Is there any difference between shutting down as root or as a normal user? /Magnus -- The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. Sorry, but I (as recommended) never log as root. Bruno No, but that's not the same as trying to su to root and then try the halt command. If your problem is related to some permission problem it might go away if you try this. And then perhaps the problem can be narrowed down. /Magnus -- The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
On Sunday 30 July 2006 17:30, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (30/07/06 16:25), Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > Hello, > > > > my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' > > or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. > > > > Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer > > is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove > > alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. > > Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. > > > > Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log > > files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / > > shutdown' are called. > > This may be heat related - I've had similar problems with a 1524WLMi (64 > bit). It's been back to Acer twice but for the last few months has been > OK. Acer won't act on Linux symptoms, so I downloaded something called > HotPC or HotCPU (I'm not in windows to check) which stress tests your > processor. Might be worth eliminating hardware as the cause. > > Regards > > Clive > > -- > www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... > ...strategies for business Clive, indeed this might be a reason but so why to freeze under a 'end current session' request ? I would accept this pseudo-freeze during a shutdown as the fan might run few seconds or minutes until the motherboard / CPU reach a cooler temperature to avoid any damage. Also this feature should not be related to any OS but only to BIOS / hardware implementation as ideally the CPU should not run to allow efficient refreshment and so should be documented by Acer as nice feature. (note: I didn't check this into the Acer documenttaion but might worth a look). Note: I'll have a look at HotPC / HotCPU as you mentionned. Bye, Bruno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
On Sunday 30 July 2006 16:53, Magnus Pedersen wrote: > Bruno Costacurta wrote: > > Hello, > > > > my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' > > or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. > > > > Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer > > is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove > > alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. > > Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. > > > > Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log > > files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / > > shutdown' are called. > > > > Bye, > > Bruno > > Is there any difference between shutting down as root or as a normal > user? > > /Magnus > -- > The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. Sorry, but I (as recommended) never log as root. Bruno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
On (30/07/06 16:25), Bruno Costacurta wrote: > Hello, > > my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' > or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. > > Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer > is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove > alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. > Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. > > Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log files ?) > about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / shutdown' > are called. This may be heat related - I've had similar problems with a 1524WLMi (64 bit). It's been back to Acer twice but for the last few months has been OK. Acer won't act on Linux symptoms, so I downloaded something called HotPC or HotCPU (I'm not in windows to check) which stress tests your processor. Might be worth eliminating hardware as the cause. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
Bruno Costacurta wrote: Hello, my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / shutdown' are called. Bye, Bruno Is there any difference between shutting down as root or as a normal user? /Magnus -- The flaw in your argument is that you think you're right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop freeze after 'end current session' or 'shutdown'
Hello, my laptop often freeze after end 'current session' or 'shutdown' operations. I'm using etch on an Acer Aspire 9100. Difficult to give more details as nothing is displayed but computer is still on (ie. fan is running..etc..) and I have to remove alimentation (sector+battery) to switch it off. Even more tricky as this freeze happens not allways but around 50%. Thanks for any clue, or ways to grab more information (dedicated log files ?) about what happens when related fonctions 'end current session / shutdown' are called. Bye, Bruno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
