Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-29 Thread wmccall
My lexmark Optra e310 has native postscript support and emulates pcl6.
$350.  I shopped and bought it for exactly that reason.  Works fine
on NT also.

It seems rather normal to check if desired hardware works on your
system before buying.  

there is also a compatability database at suse.com to prevent future
disasters.

On Fri, 28 May 1999 20:21:08 GMT, you wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:11:12 -0400, you wrote:
I had a conversation with a dealer, and he assured me
that Lexmark supports Linux...

I am sure that Lexmark's PostScript printers work with Linux :-/

Greetings
Marc

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Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread John Gay


This is a reply I received in response to a request for Linux drivers for the
Colour Inkjet 3200 printer from Lexmark. I guess I should have checked printer
compatibility a bit better before I bought it : (


In reference to your e-mail of 25/05/99, unfortunatly at present we do not have
the drivers to work with Linux and have no plans to introduce it in the near
future. If there is any move to introduce a range of drivers for Linux, we will
inform all customers.

If any othrer problems arise with your printer you can contact our technical
support line on 01812801701, Monday to Friday 9am to 5.30 pm.

Best regards,


I especially like the 'Best regards,' bit. Rather Ironic, I think. On a related
note, does any one have any experience with attempting to get this printer to
work from Linux? I'd have thought that 'a printer was a printer, was a printer'
But apparently not. I am not a programmer/hacker type, just an ex-Windows user
who is trying to move to something better. I have WindowsNT on a 2G partition,
while I learn the ropes of Linux. I hope to re-format that partition within the
year, though. I don't want to see what happens with WindowsNT come Y2K. Thanks
again for all your help in the past, and all the help I'm sure you will continue
to provide in the future.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: [ILUG] Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread Vincent Cunniffe
 I especially like the 'Best regards,' bit. Rather Ironic, I think. On a 
 related
 note, does any one have any experience with attempting to get this printer to
 work from Linux? I'd have thought that 'a printer was a printer, was a 
 printer'

In theory, they should be... sadly, a lot of hardware these days is
being
tampered with to make it work with specific operating systems... no
prizes
for guessing which ones. First modems, then cablemodems, now printers...

Anyway, there is a project to produce drivers for such printers, but I'm
not sure whether they've addressed this particular one yet. The only 
relevant mention I can find wasn't successful, sadly.

http://www.linuxhardware.net/cgi-bin/view.cgi?1999-05-22_20:22:37

Vin


Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread Marc Mongeon
John:

Check the printer manual to see whether your printer emulates any
of the HP Laserjet models (or, even better, Postscript-- but this isn't
likely).  If it does, you can set up filters (using ghostscript, most likely)
to print anything you want.

I don't know the details about your specific printer, but my experience
has been that most printers provide some level of HP emulation.

Marc


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 John Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28 8:23 AM 


This is a reply I received in response to a request for Linux drivers for the
Colour Inkjet 3200 printer from Lexmark. I guess I should have checked printer
compatibility a bit better before I bought it : (


In reference to your e-mail of 25/05/99, unfortunatly at present we do not have
the drivers to work with Linux and have no plans to introduce it in the near
future. If there is any move to introduce a range of drivers for Linux, we will
inform all customers.

If any othrer problems arise with your printer you can contact our technical
support line on 01812801701, Monday to Friday 9am to 5.30 pm.

Best regards,


I especially like the 'Best regards,' bit. Rather Ironic, I think. On a related
note, does any one have any experience with attempting to get this printer to
work from Linux? I'd have thought that 'a printer was a printer, was a printer'
But apparently not. I am not a programmer/hacker type, just an ex-Windows user
who is trying to move to something better. I have WindowsNT on a 2G partition,
while I learn the ropes of Linux. I hope to re-format that partition within the
year, though. I don't want to see what happens with WindowsNT come Y2K. Thanks
again for all your help in the past, and all the help I'm sure you will continue
to provide in the future.

Cheers,

 John Gay



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Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread Bob Brown
I had the same conversation with Lexmark about a year ago.  However, I
recall reading a post in this list re: someone who had hacked a driver.
My solution was to give the printer to my kids (win-machine) and buy a Canon
BJC-610 - that I found was compatible via the supported hardware page.
Let the buyer beware.  I had a conversation with a dealer, and he assured me
that Lexmark supports Linux... I repeat, Let the buyer beware :~{
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From: John Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 9:27 AM
Subject: Lexmark is less than helpful : 




 This is a reply I received in response to a request for Linux drivers for
the
 Colour Inkjet 3200 printer from Lexmark. I guess I should have checked
printer
 compatibility a bit better before I bought it : (


 In reference to your e-mail of 25/05/99, unfortunatly at present we do not
have
 the drivers to work with Linux and have no plans to introduce it in the
near
 future. If there is any move to introduce a range of drivers for Linux, we
will
 inform all customers.

 If any othrer problems arise with your printer you can contact our
technical
 support line on 01812801701, Monday to Friday 9am to 5.30 pm.

 Best regards,


 I especially like the 'Best regards,' bit. Rather Ironic, I think. On a
related
 note, does any one have any experience with attempting to get this printer
to
 work from Linux? I'd have thought that 'a printer was a printer, was a
printer'
 But apparently not. I am not a programmer/hacker type, just an ex-Windows
user
 who is trying to move to something better. I have WindowsNT on a 2G
partition,
 while I learn the ropes of Linux. I hope to re-format that partition
within the
 year, though. I don't want to see what happens with WindowsNT come Y2K.
Thanks
 again for all your help in the past, and all the help I'm sure you will
continue
 to provide in the future.

 Cheers,

  John Gay



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Re: Lexmark is less than helpful : -

1999-05-28 Thread John Gay


I just found the link, it is:

http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?make=Lexmark

This will give you a list of ALL Lexmark printers. The 1000 is listed as
'paperweight' i.e. does NOT work with Linux : ( a number of other Lexmark
printer do work, though. Like I said, the best thing is to use this list BEFORE
buying a printer, not after, like I did. But, with the support Linux has been
getting from all corners lately, I feel it will only be a matter of time before
Lexmark and others start to fall in line. What ever happened to 'The customer is
ALWAYS Right'? I let Lexmark know I was looking for Linux drivers for their
printer, if enough of their other customer also start looking for Linux drivers,
they may change their mind about supporting Linux.

*WARNING

This must NOT turn into an ugly battle. HATE Mail is always forwarded to
/dev/null. legitimate requests from customers, though are never ignored for
long. I believe there is a HOW-TO for Linux Advocacy which would be good reading
before firing off loads of requests for drivers. Myself, when I find a device
that isn't supported, I send a simple request for Linux drivers, and hope that
others will do the same.
That's my 1.575302 Euros worth.

Cheers,

 John Gay



Re: Lexmark is less than helpful : -

1999-05-28 Thread Michael Stenner
An effective (although not completely honest :) ) way to do it is:

Instead of saying:
  I just bought your printer -- do you have linux drivers

Say:
  I'm thinking about buying your printer -- do you have linux drivers?

-Michael

On Fri, 28 May 1999, John Gay wrote:

I just found the link, it is:

http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?make=Lexmark

This will give you a list of ALL Lexmark printers. The 1000 is listed as
'paperweight' i.e. does NOT work with Linux : ( a number of other Lexmark
printer do work, though. Like I said, the best thing is to use this list BEFORE
buying a printer, not after, like I did. But, with the support Linux has been
getting from all corners lately, I feel it will only be a matter of time before
Lexmark and others start to fall in line. What ever happened to 'The customer 
is
ALWAYS Right'? I let Lexmark know I was looking for Linux drivers for their
printer, if enough of their other customer also start looking for Linux 
drivers,
they may change their mind about supporting Linux.

*WARNING

This must NOT turn into an ugly battle. HATE Mail is always forwarded to
/dev/null. legitimate requests from customers, though are never ignored for
long. I believe there is a HOW-TO for Linux Advocacy which would be good 
reading
before firing off loads of requests for drivers. Myself, when I find a device
that isn't supported, I send a simple request for Linux drivers, and hope that
others will do the same.
That's my 1.575302 Euros worth.

Cheers,

 John Gay



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Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:11:12 -0400, you wrote:
I had a conversation with a dealer, and he assured me
that Lexmark supports Linux...

I am sure that Lexmark's PostScript printers work with Linux :-/

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-28 Thread Kent West
John Gay wrote:
 
 This is a reply I received in response to a request for Linux drivers for the
 Colour Inkjet 3200 printer from Lexmark. I guess I should have checked printer
 compatibility a bit better before I bought it : (
 
 In reference to your e-mail of 25/05/99, unfortunatly at present we do not 
 have
 the drivers to work with Linux and have no plans to introduce it in the near
 future. If there is any move to introduce a range of drivers for Linux, we 
 will
 inform all customers.
 

That was pretty much the response I got from Lexmark on my
oldgiven-to-me-free WinWriter; of course by the name of it I knew it
was winhardware (aka garbage), but I hoped that Lexmark might have been
a little more helpful. I for one will recommend against any Lexmark
purchases when asked by my friends/family/etc.


Re: Lexmark is less than helpful : -

1999-05-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 28 May 1999 15:53:23 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
An effective (although not completely honest :) ) way to do it is:

Instead of saying:
  I just bought your printer -- do you have linux drivers

Say:
  I'm thinking about buying your printer -- do you have linux drivers?

I routinely do this even if I don't dream about using that piece of
hardware on a Linux system.

Greetings
Marc

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