Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-15 Thread Steven Isaacson

Has anyone had success using a Lite On 40/12/48(LTR40125S) burner with cdrecord and
debian? I was looking around and couldn't find any definative answer.

The drive is $40 cheaper then the 40x Plextor. I really don't care to
waste my money.

-steve
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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-15 Thread Edward Guldemond

I can't say that I've used the drive, although I do have a few general
comments.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:58:09PM -0500, Steven Isaacson wrote:
> 
> The drive is $40 cheaper then the 40x Plextor. I really don't care to
> waste my money.
> 

Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs
a day, I can tell you that these options are important.  I'm not
criticizing your choice of drive, I'm just saying that sometimes those
additional $40 can make the difference between a drive that you can use
to backup just about anything, and a drive that you can only record ISOs
with.

Happy to help,

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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-15 Thread ThanhVu Nguyen

don't know about the 40x but the 16/10 works fine   I don't really
use this Liteon drive that much to say how reliable it is.  Also have a
12/10 Plextor and this one is extremely solid under Linux & cdrecord.  

ThanhVu Nguyen


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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-15 Thread Jason Pepas

On Tuesday 15 October 2002 04:58 pm, Steven Isaacson wrote:
> Has anyone had success using a Lite On 40/12/48(LTR40125S) burner with
> cdrecord and debian? I was looking around and couldn't find any definative
> answer.
>
> The drive is $40 cheaper then the 40x Plextor. I really don't care to
> waste my money.
>
> -steve

http://www.storagereview.com/

check them out - very in depth review of hard drives and optical drives.  They 
previously had a Lite-On drive recommended on their leader board, but I don't 
think it was the 40x.

-jason pepas


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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Michael Heironimus

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:02:29PM -0400, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
> about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs

I can't speak specifically for the 40x, but VideoCD hobbyists absolutely
love the current Lite-On burners, and those are exactly the kinds of
things that they need to do. The Lite-Ons also seem to reliably support
overburning (within the constraints of the media) and 90/99min blanks.

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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Guldemond

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:20:18PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:02:29PM -0400, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> > Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
> > about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs
> 
> I can't speak specifically for the 40x, but VideoCD hobbyists absolutely
> love the current Lite-On burners, and those are exactly the kinds of
> things that they need to do. The Lite-Ons also seem to reliably support
> overburning (within the constraints of the media) and 90/99min blanks.

This was a thinly veiled disguise for advice on these drives because
mine is dying. :-)  Now that I know, I'll consider LiteOns, however, I
never burn my Video CDs over 1x and Super Video CDs over 4x for
compatibility reasons.

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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Steven Isaacson

* Edward Guldemond ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:58:09PM -0500, Steven Isaacson wrote:
> > 
> > The drive is $40 cheaper then the 40x Plextor. I really don't care to
> > waste my money.
> > 
> 
> Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
> about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs
> a day, I can tell you that these options are important.  I'm not
> criticizing your choice of drive, I'm just saying that sometimes those
> additional $40 can make the difference between a drive that you can use
> to backup just about anything, and a drive that you can only record ISOs
> with.

I ended up going with the 40x plextor. Its only $101 at newegg.com. It's
about twice as fast as the LiteOn at DAE which I use extensively. Both
support raw write and DAO. 

The plextor drive also has a black tray which is supposed to increase
the speed and reliablity of the drive. I also wasn't that confident in
how supported LiteOn's SmartBurn technology is. Plextor has a FAQ that
says that all their burners are supported with 3rd party tools in linux.

-steve
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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Marc Wilson

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:58:09PM -0500, Steven Isaacson wrote:
> Has anyone had success using a Lite On 40/12/48(LTR40125S) burner with cdrecord and
> debian? I was looking around and couldn't find any definative answer.

I realize you've already bought the Plextor (good drive), but thought I'd
still comment about the 40125S since I own one and have been using it quite
a bit.

It does DAE hella fast.  REALLY hella fast.  Problem is, it doesn't deal
well at all with discs that aren't absolutely pristine while doing it.  I
have more than a few discs that it returns media errors on while my stodgy
ol' SCSI Toshiba SD-M1201 DVD-ROM has no trouble with them (although at
about half the speed).  This may be limited to my configuration (as I have
the drive doing UDMA) or it may be endemic to the model... I have no idea.
I did put the latest firmware in it and the behavior didn't change.

As far as burning goes, it works well.  I don't make videoCD's, so I can't
speak to that, but it burns even cheap discs very reliably.  It supports
DAO, but it's one of the drives that insists on knowing how large the track
is, or it won't accept the CUE sheet.  This caused me no end of trouble
figuring out because my previous Lite-On burner (4120B combo drive) didn't
care... it just burned whatever you fed it and didn't complain.  It was
just slow about it. :)

I'm not sure yet whether I'd rather have that behavior or a drive that was
a little smarter and tried not to overrun the disc. :)

This also affects its ability to overburn a disc (like to burn a 90 or 99
minute CD).  It's perfectly willing to do it, but only in DAO, and then you
have to use 'tsize=' to cdrecord to tell it how much data it's going to
write.  I had to hack eroaster (my fave burning front-end) to make the
additional call to mkisofs to determine the size before I could create 90
min discs with it.

Note that the previous only applies to data discs... it creates 90 minute
audio discs without any complaints.
 
> The drive is $40 cheaper then the 40x Plextor. I really don't care to
> waste my money.

Plextor is *never* a waste of money.  And now I understand they're planning
on getting back into SCSI...

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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-18 Thread Colin Keefe
* Steven Isaacson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-15 16:58:09 -0500]:

> Has anyone had success using a Lite On 40/12/48(LTR40125S) burner with
> cdrecord and debian? I was looking around and couldn't find any
> definative answer.
> 
I am.  I've had it since the beginning of August and am using it with
X-CD-Roast.  It works great although I haven't tried it at the higher
burn speeds.  It's worth the money IMO.
  Colin

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