Re: Loadlin alternatives
Ivo Wever wrote: you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand what you are talking about. I run Woody and boot from Win98, using loadlin. [snip] but Loadlin can't understand it. This problem is documented in the bug reports. See bugs.debian.org/loadlin to see the description. But essentially, it says that the compressed BZ file is bad, system halted. Anyhow, I'm still interested in seeing what alternatives I have. I build my kernels 'the Debian way' [1] and loadlin runs any kernel image I have build that way. Perhaps that's the alternative you are looking for? Or do I lack the knowledge of different options in kernel baking to understand your problem? 1) http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking *SIGH* That's exactly what I'm doing, the debian way, except that I also run one additional step, make BzImage if I want a BzImage. No matter whether I use the kernel BzImage or VmLinuz, I get the error mentioned at bugs.debian.org/loadlin The image does not work with Loadlin, it's compression is wrong. So... back to the original question: What other alternatives are out there, that I can use instead of Loadlin, and what are their characteristics? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
On Thursday 30 May 2002 06:55 am, DSC Siltec wrote: [snip] *SIGH* That's exactly what I'm doing, the debian way, except that I also run one additional step, make BzImage if I want a BzImage. No matter whether I use the kernel BzImage or VmLinuz, I get the error mentioned at bugs.debian.org/loadlin The image does not work with Loadlin, it's compression is wrong. the compression errors may be due to misplaced uppercase letters. on my system, it's vmlinuz, and only the i in bzimage is uppercase. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
DSC == DSC Siltec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DSC *SIGH* That's exactly what I'm doing, the debian way, except that I DSC also run one additional step, make BzImage if I want a DSC BzImage. The kernel-package default for i386 is BzImage, so you should not have to run that extra step. manoj -- Everybody is given the same amount of hormones, at birth, and if you want to use yours for growing hair, that's fine with me. Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Loadlin alternatives
Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] If that is the case, it is a shame, because I suspect there are a lot of users like me who want to keep Windows as their main bootup option just in case they have problems with Linux and don't understand enough to boot up. But anyhow, since Loadlin won't work, I'd like to know about other bootup options. Also, I keep my root directory on /hdc3, outside of the normal bootup range. My Windoze boots on /hda1 (indeed, /hdaonly). Ideally, I'd like to keep DOS/Windoze98 as the primary, preferred boot, and allow myself just to switch into Linux when I want that. Can someone compare the different bootup methods for me, and also tell which ones would be most compatible with my desires here? - Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:07:18AM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote: Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] Out of interest, what's the problem? (Did I miss a thread?) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 10:07 am, DSC Siltec wrote: Snip But anyhow, since Loadlin won't work, I'd like to know about other bootup options. Mike. I don't have a hard drive inside my computer. Instead I have three hard drives each in a removeable tray (caddy). There is one slot on the front of my machine, into which a tray can be plugged. Each drive is self-contained with a different operating system, and I simply plug in which ever OS I want to use. I think this is better than dual or triple booting as the different systems are completely separate. I have used this method for some time, without any problems. Just a thought as an alternative. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
On 29 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:07:18AM +0200, DSC Siltec wrote: Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] Out of interest, what's the problem? (Did I miss a thread?) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Funny - it's still working here, with Woody and kernel 2.4.18. I keep DOS around largely because it allows me to boot easily into Linux without messing around with Lilo and without hassles regarding different kernel versions. AC -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux GNU/Debian (Windows-free zone) For electronic books on the Assassins and on homeopathy, skeptical essays, and over 160 book reviews, go to: http://www.acampbell.org.uk/ Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. [Carl Sagan] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] If that is the case, it is a shame, because I suspect there are a lot of users like me who want to keep Windows as their main bootup option just in case they have problems with Linux and don't understand enough to boot up. I don't understand what you are talking about. I run Woody and boot from Win98, using loadlin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] If that is the case, it is a shame, because I suspect there are a lot of users like me who want to keep Windows as their main bootup option just in case they have problems with Linux and don't understand enough to boot up. I don't understand what you are talking about. I run Woody and boot from Win98, using loadlin. The problem comes when I rebuild. Rebuilding creates a BZfile that loadlin cannot understand. Yes, the original kernel works under woody and loadlin. But if I try rebuilding to get vmlinuz-2.18.xx or whatever, that kernel doesn't work. Or if I use make BzImage (caps indicate statement only), a BzImage is made, but Loadlin can't understand it. This problem is documented in the bug reports. See bugs.debian.org/loadlin to see the description. But essentially, it says that the compressed BZ file is bad, system halted. Anyhow, I'm still interested in seeing what alternatives I have. - Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadlin alternatives
DSC Siltec wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it looks like Loadlin and Woody will not be compatible for some time [I hate to say not ever... but I wonder...] If that is the case, it is a shame, because I suspect there are a lot of users like me who want to keep Windows as their main bootup option just in case they have problems with Linux and don't understand enough to boot up. I don't understand what you are talking about. I run Woody and boot from Win98, using loadlin. The problem comes when I rebuild. Rebuilding creates a BZfile that loadlin cannot understand. Yes, the original kernel works under woody and loadlin. But if I try rebuilding to get vmlinuz-2.18.xx or whatever, that kernel doesn't work. Or if I use make BzImage (caps indicate statement only), a BzImage is made, but Loadlin can't understand it. This problem is documented in the bug reports. See bugs.debian.org/loadlin to see the description. But essentially, it says that the compressed BZ file is bad, system halted. Anyhow, I'm still interested in seeing what alternatives I have. - Mike There was a thread concerning this about one or two weeks ago. It turns out that there's a bug in the loadlin program that can't handle newer kernel bzImages, or something like that. I don't remember the details. It's a reported bug; you should be able to find out more in the mailing list archives or perhaps in Bugzilla (or wherever such bugs would be searchable). Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]