Re: Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
Rogério Brito writes: > Dear people, > > As all my computers are quite old so far (including the ones that I > use to develop my packages and contribute to Debian), I would like to > get a "modern" desktop that is able to keep up with compiling stuff > and doing basic web surfing/web and typing texts in Emacs. > > Unfortunately, I have assembled computers way, way, way back then and > I don't know which processors should go with which motherboards and so > on. > > I would gladly appreciate some help choosing a computer (or computer > parts) that has a configuration along the following lines: > > * Is able to run Debian without any problems (I am willing to use > something that requires firmware from non-free, but not proprietary > drivers) > * Is a budget system (I'm short on money, unfortunately) > * Is silent, with as little fans as possible > * Has the ability to have 16GB or 32GB of memory (this is one of the > parts where I am willing to focus spending the money) > * Has a processor like a modern AMD Ryzen 5 or whatever is similar in > Intel-land (the 2nd part where I am willing to focus spending the > money) > * I don't care too much about video cards; As long as it can drive a > Full HD monitor, I am satisfied. Integrated card with the CPU is > perfectly ok with me (and, actually, preferred if that would make the > final cost of the computer lower). > > Any recommendations are more than welcome, > > Rogério Brito. Don't underestimate how quiet a fan can be -- I recently switched the fan/heatsink that came with my CPU for a "be quiet! BK010 Shadow Rock Slim" CPU cooler, and my machine is now nearly silent. My air conditioning vents are louder (but, I'll mention that since I live in the desert I have evaporative air conditioning, so my AC vents have to move quite a bit of air).
Re: Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
Rogério Brito wrote: > Any recommendations are more than welcome, I bought one used Fujitsu C200 for about 170,- few years ago. It has everything one would need incl. serial port - actually two of them. Intel Core5 - 4CPU 8GB of mem (but I think it can handle up to 16) I do not think it is necessary to buy very new hardware also because drivers might be having problems for newer hardware. regards
Re: Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 06:49:10PM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > Dear people, > > As all my computers are quite old so far (including the ones that I > use to develop my packages and contribute to Debian), I would like to > get a "modern" desktop that is able to keep up with compiling stuff > and doing basic web surfing/web and typing texts in Emacs. > > Unfortunately, I have assembled computers way, way, way back then and > I don't know which processors should go with which motherboards and so > on. > > I would gladly appreciate some help choosing a computer (or computer > parts) that has a configuration along the following lines: > > * Is able to run Debian without any problems (I am willing to use > something that requires firmware from non-free, but not proprietary > drivers) > * Is a budget system (I'm short on money, unfortunately) > * Is silent, with as little fans as possible > * Has the ability to have 16GB or 32GB of memory (this is one of the > parts where I am willing to focus spending the money) > * Has a processor like a modern AMD Ryzen 5 or whatever is similar in > Intel-land (the 2nd part where I am willing to focus spending the > money) > * I don't care too much about video cards; As long as it can drive a > Full HD monitor, I am satisfied. Integrated card with the CPU is > perfectly ok with me (and, actually, preferred if that would make the > final cost of the computer lower). > > Any recommendations are more than welcome, > If you are looking for something that is already built, then I have very good experience with System76, specifically with their laptops. They also have desktop/workstation systems available, they support Linux (Ubuntu and their own variant, Pop_OS!), and they are very stong supporters of completely open firmware. It is my understanding (based on their marketing communications) that they are pushing for fully open firmware on all their offerings and that they are making progress to achieve that. The only thing is that they are locted in Colorado, USA. According to their shipping information page, in South America they ship to Colombia, Perú, and Chile. Based on your email I am assuming you are located in Brazil, so this may present an obstacle if that is the case. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez
Re: Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
Have you looked at a NUC from Intel?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark.html#@PanelLabel70407
I’ve got a couple of them and I’m very happy.
Rick
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rogério Brito wrote:
>
> Dear people,
>
> As all my computers are quite old so far (including the ones that I
> use to develop my packages and contribute to Debian), I would like to
> get a "modern" desktop that is able to keep up with compiling stuff
> and doing basic web surfing/web and typing texts in Emacs.
>
> Unfortunately, I have assembled computers way, way, way back then and
> I don't know which processors should go with which motherboards and so
> on.
>
> I would gladly appreciate some help choosing a computer (or computer
> parts) that has a configuration along the following lines:
>
> * Is able to run Debian without any problems (I am willing to use
> something that requires firmware from non-free, but not proprietary
> drivers)
> * Is a budget system (I'm short on money, unfortunately)
> * Is silent, with as little fans as possible
> * Has the ability to have 16GB or 32GB of memory (this is one of the
> parts where I am willing to focus spending the money)
> * Has a processor like a modern AMD Ryzen 5 or whatever is similar in
> Intel-land (the 2nd part where I am willing to focus spending the
> money)
> * I don't care too much about video cards; As long as it can drive a
> Full HD monitor, I am satisfied. Integrated card with the CPU is
> perfectly ok with me (and, actually, preferred if that would make the
> final cost of the computer lower).
>
> Any recommendations are more than welcome,
>
> Rogério Brito.
>
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Re: Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 18:49:10 -0300 Rogério Brito wrote: > * Is silent, with as little fans as possible For that, I recommend https://silentpc.com/ I have two of their machines, and they are so quiet I can hear the hard drives doing their thing. Or check out http://www.silentpcreview.com/ -- "When we talk of civilization, we are too apt to limit the meaning of the word to its mere embellishments, such as arts and sciences; but the true distinction between it and barbarism is, that the one presents a state of society under the protection of just and well-administered law, and the other is left to the chance government of brute force." - The Rev. James White, Eighteen Christian Centuries, 1889 Key fingerprint = 38DD CE9F 9725 42DD E29A EB11 7514 6D37 A332 10CB https://charlescurley.com
Looking for suggestions of a "modern" desktop that runs Debian
Dear people,
As all my computers are quite old so far (including the ones that I
use to develop my packages and contribute to Debian), I would like to
get a "modern" desktop that is able to keep up with compiling stuff
and doing basic web surfing/web and typing texts in Emacs.
Unfortunately, I have assembled computers way, way, way back then and
I don't know which processors should go with which motherboards and so
on.
I would gladly appreciate some help choosing a computer (or computer
parts) that has a configuration along the following lines:
* Is able to run Debian without any problems (I am willing to use
something that requires firmware from non-free, but not proprietary
drivers)
* Is a budget system (I'm short on money, unfortunately)
* Is silent, with as little fans as possible
* Has the ability to have 16GB or 32GB of memory (this is one of the
parts where I am willing to focus spending the money)
* Has a processor like a modern AMD Ryzen 5 or whatever is similar in
Intel-land (the 2nd part where I am willing to focus spending the
money)
* I don't care too much about video cards; As long as it can drive a
Full HD monitor, I am satisfied. Integrated card with the CPU is
perfectly ok with me (and, actually, preferred if that would make the
final cost of the computer lower).
Any recommendations are more than welcome,
Rogério Brito.
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