Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-03 Thread Alexander LIST
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Paul Seelig wrote:

 This was the case with the first beta because of a failure on behalf of
 the developers when they compiled the release. The newer betas are
 corrected in this regard. So you have to buy your Motif anyway. And apart
 from that it's still not even worth trying for people with standard
 hardware. StarOffice needs an incredible amount of resources. Don't even
 bother trying it unless you have a Pentium with at least 64 Megs of RAM.
 All else should be a real pain.

Sorry, I can't agree with you. At my site, we have several Am586/133 (ASUS
486 boards with the AMD processor), mostly 16MB of ram, and everything
NFS-mounted. It's true that the first beta was painfully slow, but it was
faster than booting Novell, Windows 3.11 and starting Word 6.

Now, with the second beta, it's a lot faster than Winword. Even with
16megs of RAM on a 486. Of course, I haven't tried it on my 386 yet...

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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-03 Thread Marco Mariani
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote:

 Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to
 history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly
 like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so 
 on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable
 terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format? 

Try MS-KERMIT 3.14, you won't believe you're connecting from a DOS machine..

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit (if memory serves me well)


All The Best,
 Marco

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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-02 Thread Jerzy Kakol

On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Alexander LIST wrote:

 
 Have a look at http://www.stardivision.com/. They have StarOffice 3.1, a
 complete office solution for different platforms, in public beta now.
 Noncommercial use is free AFAIK and the Wordprocessor, StarWriter, can
 read/write MS-Winword-6.0, _and_ has built in HTML capabilities. You can
 even surf the Web from the Wordprocessor.
 

Unfortunately StarOffice package requires Motif 2.0. Is their any way to
deal without it? How about lesstiff. BTW, text file format RTF seems to be
quite good and relatively harmless (and loseless) way to realize document
exchange between Linux and Windoze zones. Winword has appropriate
conventer, on the Linux side in turn there exist such a tool like
latex2rtf. It is better than another common format like PostScript which
is not human editable.


 customizable telnet client with remote saving/printing capabilities for
 the Austrian Press Agency... 


I'd like to add equally important cabability - configurable terminal
compatibility. Only user keeping the console can take full advantage
from the TERM environment variable set to linux. All other network
users must torture themselves with VT100 compatible telnet clients, 
what affects very negatively the prestige of my Debian GNU Linux
Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to
history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly
like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so 
on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable
terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format? 

BTW, recently I tried to make DEC OSF 3.2 a Unix with human face. I
compiled gcc, libg++, bash, binutils, color-ls, git and copied termcap
from my Debian Linux box wroking as a server in my network. Everything works OK 
but regarding terminal all I've achieved is possibility of running telnet
with TERM=ansi because TERM=linux causes 'Terminal entry too long'
message. What else should I exchange, may be DEC's getty? 


Thanx for reading this,



   Jerzy Kakol

Institute of Microbiology
   Wroclaw University



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Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)

1996-12-02 Thread Shaya Potter
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote:

 
 On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Alexander LIST wrote:
 
  
  Have a look at http://www.stardivision.com/. They have StarOffice 3.1, a
  complete office solution for different platforms, in public beta now.
  Noncommercial use is free AFAIK and the Wordprocessor, StarWriter, can
  read/write MS-Winword-6.0, _and_ has built in HTML capabilities. You can
  even surf the Web from the Wordprocessor.
  
 
 Unfortunately StarOffice package requires Motif 2.0. Is their any way to
 deal without it? 

Star office includes all the motif you need.  Just make link from 
lbso312.(something)  to libxm.so.2 and run ldconfig and tada you have 
motif.  This is all from memory so I can't verify it, but it enabled me 
to run the star office installation program which required motif.

Shaya
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