Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Paul Seelig wrote: This was the case with the first beta because of a failure on behalf of the developers when they compiled the release. The newer betas are corrected in this regard. So you have to buy your Motif anyway. And apart from that it's still not even worth trying for people with standard hardware. StarOffice needs an incredible amount of resources. Don't even bother trying it unless you have a Pentium with at least 64 Megs of RAM. All else should be a real pain. Sorry, I can't agree with you. At my site, we have several Am586/133 (ASUS 486 boards with the AMD processor), mostly 16MB of ram, and everything NFS-mounted. It's true that the first beta was painfully slow, but it was faster than booting Novell, Windows 3.11 and starting Word 6. Now, with the second beta, it's a lot faster than Winword. Even with 16megs of RAM on a 486. Of course, I haven't tried it on my 386 yet... -- Alexander List, Neue-Welt-Hoehe 52a, A-8042 Graz, Austria, EU phone: +43-316-474737 Home address: Dafens 4, A-6824 Schlins, Austria, EU phone: +43-5524-8560 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/alexlist -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3i mQCNAzKUShwAAAEEAKSeONtZF24pqL5eK3Q3PHJis0dI3uOKMFjOWwiwSyVyaKHp FCCmHCayDabMVgGUnjHxIUZj7Rmlz5RT1GGKMBSK67yFD0mGVrl8eGoH1bBDviGj S+quQ45SY/upp670EOqrxyp6pJk1uR+RjteFepzZ5am55tEMjGWTYnZjEXP1AAUR tEJBbGV4YW5kZXIgTS4gTGlzdCA8YWxleGxpc3RAc2JveC50dS1ncmF6LmFjLmF0 PiA0NDAyMDIwNzc0IDkzMzI1NTSJAJUDBRAylEocZZNidmMRc/UBAVyBA/9l8Qff Iuva0vmzrE4EbVfgonVjY4BKRVcB5QgxC9PTAILu2/aM4NyT8lOEhCjw4x5wzxLJ Z3FWw3kTe9R/r0RKU49SA1pE7Fge+sbdXH/Z7g+SLZ1myMVX3sZaVFDzhCOO0C7I FA4Izn2zQulIxsxcBaqEV5qIUW58cF7+JbJj6A== =SyLK -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote: Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format? Try MS-KERMIT 3.14, you won't believe you're connecting from a DOS machine.. http://www.columbia.edu/kermit (if memory serves me well) All The Best, Marco There are people who don't like capitalism, and there are people who don't like PCs, but there's no one who likes the PC who doesn't like Microsoft. - Bill Gates, interviewed by the L.A. Times, 22 nov. 96 - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Alexander LIST wrote: Have a look at http://www.stardivision.com/. They have StarOffice 3.1, a complete office solution for different platforms, in public beta now. Noncommercial use is free AFAIK and the Wordprocessor, StarWriter, can read/write MS-Winword-6.0, _and_ has built in HTML capabilities. You can even surf the Web from the Wordprocessor. Unfortunately StarOffice package requires Motif 2.0. Is their any way to deal without it? How about lesstiff. BTW, text file format RTF seems to be quite good and relatively harmless (and loseless) way to realize document exchange between Linux and Windoze zones. Winword has appropriate conventer, on the Linux side in turn there exist such a tool like latex2rtf. It is better than another common format like PostScript which is not human editable. customizable telnet client with remote saving/printing capabilities for the Austrian Press Agency... I'd like to add equally important cabability - configurable terminal compatibility. Only user keeping the console can take full advantage from the TERM environment variable set to linux. All other network users must torture themselves with VT100 compatible telnet clients, what affects very negatively the prestige of my Debian GNU Linux Server. The incredibly ancient VT-100 standard should pass to history long time ago. I would like to use a terminal emulator exactly like between two Linuxes - with comfort of bash, arrow keys, color ls and so on. So, does anybody know a DOS or Windows telnet client with configurable terminal definition in termcap or terminfo format? BTW, recently I tried to make DEC OSF 3.2 a Unix with human face. I compiled gcc, libg++, bash, binutils, color-ls, git and copied termcap from my Debian Linux box wroking as a server in my network. Everything works OK but regarding terminal all I've achieved is possibility of running telnet with TERM=ansi because TERM=linux causes 'Terminal entry too long' message. What else should I exchange, may be DEC's getty? Thanx for reading this, Jerzy Kakol Institute of Microbiology Wroclaw University -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS WORD format (and customizable telnet client) (fwd)
On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Jerzy Kakol wrote: On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Alexander LIST wrote: Have a look at http://www.stardivision.com/. They have StarOffice 3.1, a complete office solution for different platforms, in public beta now. Noncommercial use is free AFAIK and the Wordprocessor, StarWriter, can read/write MS-Winword-6.0, _and_ has built in HTML capabilities. You can even surf the Web from the Wordprocessor. Unfortunately StarOffice package requires Motif 2.0. Is their any way to deal without it? Star office includes all the motif you need. Just make link from lbso312.(something) to libxm.so.2 and run ldconfig and tada you have motif. This is all from memory so I can't verify it, but it enabled me to run the star office installation program which required motif. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]