Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 20 April 2006 07:31, Matthias Julius wrote:

> Another aspect is that there is no convenient way to send a private
> reply to the sender when he had set Reply-To to the list.  You then
> can only do this by manually copy/paste of the From address.

Right, of course.  If someone sets Reply-To to the list, they don't want a 
private reply...

> The worst is when the list manager software automaticalle sets
> Reply-To to the list address.

I wish this wasn't the default on so many mailing list managers...

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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2006-04-20, Matthias Julius penned:
>
> Another aspect is that there is no convenient way to send a private
> reply to the sender when he had set Reply-To to the list.  You then
> can only do this by manually copy/paste of the From address.

Well, yes, that's exactly why some of us want to do that =)

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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Matthias Julius
"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2006-04-19, Wayne Topa penned:
>>> 
>>
>> folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To:
>> 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
>
> It must be considered harmful by somebody:
>
> http://gmane.org/faq.php
>
> [quote]
> But I did use a valid email address.
> Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed to the
> mailing list. Don't do that.
> [/quote]
>
> Other than that (and I'm not sure why they don't like it), it sounds
> like a reasonable approach to me.

There is a distinction between a reply (goes to the sender) and a
followup (goes to the list).  Gnus for example supports both concepts
(don't know about other user agents).  Now if somebody wants to send a
(private) reply to the sender and the sender had set Reply-To to the
list the mail goes to the list instead.  This might be not a good
thing.

Another aspect is that there is no convenient way to send a private
reply to the sender when he had set Reply-To to the list.  You then
can only do this by manually copy/paste of the From address.

The worst is when the list manager software automaticalle sets
Reply-To to the list address.

Matthias


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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2006-04-19, Wayne Topa penned:
>> 
>
> folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To:
> 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'

It must be considered harmful by somebody:

http://gmane.org/faq.php

[quote]
But I did use a valid email address.
Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed to the
mailing list. Don't do that.
[/quote]

Other than that (and I'm not sure why they don't like it), it sounds
like a reasonable approach to me.

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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Matthew R. Dempsky([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how
> > > to get muttng to put it in mails.
> > > 
> > 
> > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> 
> Are you recommending this because muttng broke mutt's excellent 
> Mail-Followup-To support, or just because you think it's a 
> quicker/better fix to the problem?

No, just because I have had it setup that for years

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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how
> > to get muttng to put it in mails.
> > 
> 
> folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'

Are you recommending this because muttng broke mutt's excellent 
Mail-Followup-To support, or just because you think it's a 
quicker/better fix to the problem?


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Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote:
> >Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100:
> >
> >>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software,
> >>like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the
> >>senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header
> >>as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list.
> >
> >It's not the mailing list software's job, it's yours.  Search for the
> >'Mail-Followup-To' header.
> 
> Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how
> to get muttng to put it in mails.
> 

folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'

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Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote:
>Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100:
>
>>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software,
>>like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the
>>senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header
>>as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list.
>
>It's not the mailing list software's job, it's yours.  Search for the
>'Mail-Followup-To' header.

Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how
to get muttng to put it in mails.

/M

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