Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 11:01:54AM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote:
> 
> > 3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz
> Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with
> prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under
> /usr/local,  so nothing will get overwritten or anything.  In general,  a
> lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install
> under /usr/local.

With respect to 1. and 2., one has to be careful here.

Native Debian packages don't touch /usr/local, so it is safe to put local
add ons there (and this is the intended and formal correct place).

BUT inofficial *.deb files and *.rpm files converted with alien may very
well contain /usr/local files, please check this with the "--contents"
option prior installation.

I believe you can even convert tar files to deb files. This is intereting if
you want to make /usr/local managed by dpkg.

Thank you,
Marcus

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Re: Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, G. Kaplan wrote:

> Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed
> module ?
Not sure what you're asking here.

> Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through  dpkg  , where is it
> reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard
> distribution; but are:
> 1. a properly defined .deb package,
These can be handled by dpkg -- even if they're not in the "current
distribution",  it'll install them and keep track of them for you.  It'll
mark them as Obselete/Local in its package listing (because they don't
fit in its current notion of what the distribution is,  but otherwise
with no side effects), but won't complain about installing or managing
them for you.

> 2. a properly defined .rpm package
Use "alien" to convert it to a .deb and then see #1.

> 3. a primary module i.e. .xyz.tar.gz
Generally it's safest to untar, compile and install these with
prefix=/usr/local ... debian packages won't touch anything under
/usr/local,  so nothing will get overwritten or anything.  In general,  a
lot of stuff you compile from tarballs yourself has a default install
under /usr/local.

Will
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Maintaining the operating environment Questions:

1998-07-31 Thread G. Kaplan
Is there any way to determine the distribution source of an installed
module ?

Suppose I wanted to maintain a system through  dpkg  , where is it
reasonable to store files that are not part of the current standard
distribution; but are:
1. a properly defined .deb package,
2. a properly defined .rpm package, or
3. a primary module i.e.. xyz.tar.gz
What are the consequences with respect to 'Packages' , 'available',
'available-old', 'status', 'status-old'?
What side effects should I be on the look out for?

I am reading the programmer and policy documentation; but do not feel
comfortable with my lack of understanding of side effects.

Thank you.


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