Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. If this sounds like an attack, then yes, I am attacking your FUD. Your should not worry so much, I'm not arab. I have nothing against Arabs. Why would you think that? Yesterday Places, Programs buttons suddenly dissapeared from top panel. That would be annoying. What did you discover while looking for the cause? Some weeks ago system crashed down when properties for panel were changed. That does sound like a Gnome bug. Today were download of 3.4 GB file since morning (decided to put Solaris Express and see what it is), came back in half hour ago and found PC crashed (perhaps the reason is not in Gnome). No, that is not likely to be a Gnome issue. There were posts about that (except todays accident). What I must to thing after that? Which thing? Gnome? Your PC? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
On 15/02/2008, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. 1. Gnome fails to connect with a secure Webdav folder at my univ., while KDE works great. Hasn't worked for the last few years. Made me switch to KDE though -- not to mention I started to like KDE! I agree, if you need to remotely manage other machines, then Konqueror cannot be beat. I use it to manage quite a few servers. Nautilus does not even come close. 2. Gnomebaker does not erase DVD-RW discs. It just gets confused and gives an error no matter which back end I use, cdrecord or wodim. K3b however, works great. Apparently, others have reported this too and there is some noise on Ubuntu lists about this. I've also heard this. Now, I admit, one could argue these are not examples of unreliability since Gnome fails consistently :) But (1) above has been going on for so long and that I now have serious doubts whether Gnome (Nautilus, more specifically) developers really care about Webdav access functionality at all. Have you contributed to the related bug, or at least voted for it? I was looking for chance to rant, thanks for opportunity :) Mailing lists are great for that! You should check out usenet! But having said, I must also say that for a novice Linux desktop user, I would probably recommend Gnome. It is much more simpler (fewer customizations and options) than KDE. Gnome developers have done magnificent work. Of course, it is always going to need improvement and fixes here and there. I install KDE on new user's machines, but I configure it myself. Gnome, while simpler, seems to do things in unintuitive ways in my opinion. Many new Linux users do not like the menu at the top of the screen, for instance. At least, that is the impression I've gotten after switching 15-20 people's computers over from XP to Fedora/Ubuntu. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 15/02/2008, H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. 1. Gnome fails to connect with a secure Webdav folder at my univ., while KDE works great. Hasn't worked for the last few years. Made me switch to KDE though -- not to mention I started to like KDE! I agree, if you need to remotely manage other machines, then Konqueror cannot be beat. I use it to manage quite a few servers. Nautilus does not even come close. 2. Gnomebaker does not erase DVD-RW discs. It just gets confused and gives an error no matter which back end I use, cdrecord or wodim. K3b however, works great. Apparently, others have reported this too and there is some noise on Ubuntu lists about this. I've also heard this. Now, I admit, one could argue these are not examples of unreliability since Gnome fails consistently :) But (1) above has been going on for so long and that I now have serious doubts whether Gnome (Nautilus, more specifically) developers really care about Webdav access functionality at all. Have you contributed to the related bug, or at least voted for it? I was looking for chance to rant, thanks for opportunity :) Mailing lists are great for that! You should check out usenet! But having said, I must also say that for a novice Linux desktop user, I would probably recommend Gnome. It is much more simpler (fewer customizations and options) than KDE. Gnome developers have done magnificent work. Of course, it is always going to need improvement and fixes here and there. I install KDE on new user's machines, but I configure it myself. Gnome, while simpler, seems to do things in unintuitive ways in my opinion. Many new Linux users do not like the menu at the top of the screen, for instance. At least, that is the impression I've gotten after switching 15-20 people's computers over from XP to Fedora/Ubuntu. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? How to install a new KDE 4 on PC? Ihear it is much mare faster than old one. Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
On 15/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to install a new KDE 4 on PC? Ihear it is much mare faster than old one. The latest KDE is KDE 4.0.0, which, according to KDE developers, is _NOT_READY_ for end users. KDE 4.1, which is slated for October, will be ready for end users. KDE 4.0.x is feature-incomplete. It is not buggy in the sense that it crashes (it doesn't), however it does not have many features that one would expect in a window manager. I'm currently using the latest end_user_ready KDE, which is KDE 3.5.8 and I highly recommend it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Dotan Cohen wrote: Now, I admit, one could argue these are not examples of unreliability since Gnome fails consistently :) But (1) above has been going on for so long and that I now have serious doubts whether Gnome (Nautilus, more specifically) developers really care about Webdav access functionality at all. Have you contributed to the related bug, or at least voted for it? Its been quite a while when I first reported it. I am positive I raised this on Gnome's list. I wanted to file a bug, but a couple of similar bugs were already existed. They still appear to be unresolved. regards, -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
2008/2/14, Carlos Parada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks hi, what do you do before the Window Manager capplet is missing, please? Do you update the system? Do you change anything in the system or in the desktop manager? Do you install any new software or update any software? Regards, -- The capability to hear give possibility to understand much things Rashna Micaela Gallerini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Hi, Micaela. I've recently installed Debian 4.0 'Etch' as a VMWARE Virtual Machine (under Windows XP). I don't really know if some time that capplet was present, I've executed GNOME Control Center for the first time a couple of days ago. I've performed the updates that Update Manager suggested me and installed some software like Compiz, Xfe File Manager, Sawfish, Enlightenment... On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Micaela Gallerini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/14, Carlos Parada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks hi, what do you do before the Window Manager capplet is missing, please? Do you update the system? Do you change anything in the system or in the desktop manager? Do you install any new software or update any software? Regards, -- The capability to hear give possibility to understand much things Rashna Micaela Gallerini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Micaela Gallerini wrote: 2008/2/14, Carlos Parada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks hi, what do you do before the Window Manager capplet is missing, please? Do you update the system? Do you change anything in the system or in the desktop manager? Do you install any new software or update any software? Regards, Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/08 10:12, Andrius wrote: Micaela Gallerini wrote: 2008/2/14, Carlos Parada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks hi, what do you do before the Window Manager capplet is missing, please? Do you update the system? Do you change anything in the system or in the desktop manager? Do you install any new software or update any software? Regards, Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Really? I've never seen such problems with GNOME Panel. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtHpQS9HxQb37XmcRAollAKDEelntkaCJu4xkZEw3/O7FqzBoeACfcyY3 /2dNazIJlKuajBikZjqNHUs= =zbYH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. If this sounds like an attack, then yes, I am attacking your FUD. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/08 10:12, Andrius wrote: Micaela Gallerini wrote: 2008/2/14, Carlos Parada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I've noticed that in my GNOME Control Center the Window Manager capplet is missing... Any hint? Thanks hi, what do you do before the Window Manager capplet is missing, please? Do you update the system? Do you change anything in the system or in the desktop manager? Do you install any new software or update any software? Regards, Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Really? I've never seen such problems with GNOME Panel. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtHpQS9HxQb37XmcRAollAKDEelntkaCJu4xkZEw3/O7FqzBoeACfcyY3 /2dNazIJlKuajBikZjqNHUs= =zbYH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Perhaps unlucky version for me. Andrius P.S. Would like to change to KDE, but no buttons in panel to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. If this sounds like an attack, then yes, I am attacking your FUD. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Your should not worry so much, I'm not arab. Yesterday Places, Programs buttons suddenly dissapeared from top panel. Some weeks ago system crashed down when properties for panel were changed. Today were download of 3.4 GB file since morning (decided to put Solaris Express and see what it is), came back in half hour ago and found PC crashed (perhaps the reason is not in Gnome). There were posts about that (except todays accident). What I must to thing after that? Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
H.S. wrote: Andrius wrote: Perhaps unlucky version for me. Andrius P.S. Would like to change to KDE, but no buttons in panel to do that. If you want to start using KDE, or just give it a try, you have to choose KDE Session (from Sessions menu I believe) *before* logging in to your desktop. -HS There were autologin option marked before in Gnome and no idea how to change it now. Regards, Andrius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Andrius wrote: Perhaps unlucky version for me. Andrius P.S. Would like to change to KDE, but no buttons in panel to do that. If you want to start using KDE, or just give it a try, you have to choose KDE Session (from Sessions menu I believe) *before* logging in to your desktop. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 14/02/2008, Andrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnome panel sometimes doing various tricks. It is a good GUI, but not reliable. Please explain that comment, and provide details. I'm a KDE user, but I don't know Gnome to be unreliable. What, exactly (with examples) do you mean by unreliable. 1. Gnome fails to connect with a secure Webdav folder at my univ., while KDE works great. Hasn't worked for the last few years. Made me switch to KDE though -- not to mention I started to like KDE! 2. Gnomebaker does not erase DVD-RW discs. It just gets confused and gives an error no matter which back end I use, cdrecord or wodim. K3b however, works great. Apparently, others have reported this too and there is some noise on Ubuntu lists about this. Now, I admit, one could argue these are not examples of unreliability since Gnome fails consistently :) But (1) above has been going on for so long and that I now have serious doubts whether Gnome (Nautilus, more specifically) developers really care about Webdav access functionality at all. I was looking for chance to rant, thanks for opportunity :) But having said, I must also say that for a novice Linux desktop user, I would probably recommend Gnome. It is much more simpler (fewer customizations and options) than KDE. Gnome developers have done magnificent work. Of course, it is always going to need improvement and fixes here and there. regards, -HS If this sounds like an attack, then yes, I am attacking your FUD. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing option in GNOME Control Center
So is there any way of make appear the Window Manager Capplet?? Perhaps installing the newest version of GNOME Control Center...? aptitude install packet_name...
