Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-20 Thread M. Piscaer

Hal Vaughan schreef:
I have a workstation and several other computers on my LAN, all running 
Linux -- either Debian or Ubuntu (Kubuntu for the workstation, Sarge on 
the rest -- please don't start on the version, I'll be updating it in 
my copious amounts of free time one year).


I am connecting to a computer through ssh and running some Perl programs 
on it.  I need to be able to see what is going out from that computer 
to a web site so I can verify the HTTP headers and data going both 
ways.  If this were on the workstation, I'd use Wireshark, but this 
system is console only and I'm not about to install X on it and deal 
with switching monitors for this one issue.


Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this 
computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the same 
way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?


And if that doesn't work, is there a way to get Wireshark to read what 
goes between other NICs?


The workstation is the only computer on the LAN with X, so I can't run 
Wireshark on any server or firewall system.



Thanks!

Hal


  


I use tcpdump in an situation like that. With the option -w filename 
-s0, you capture all of the packets in an file. With scp i copy the file 
to the local machine, en use wireshare to analise the file.


Regards,

Michiel Piscaer


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:16:19PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
 
 Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this 
 computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the same 
 way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?
 
 And if that doesn't work, is there a way to get Wireshark to read what 
 goes between other NICs?
 
 The workstation is the only computer on the LAN with X, so I can't run 
 Wireshark on any server or firewall system.
 

Why not put wireshark on the target box, set up ssh with X-forwarding,
run wireshark on the server from the workstation via xterm sshing to the
target box?  It will run on the server but display on the workstation.

Doug.


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 16 June 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:16:19PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
  Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this
  computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the
  same way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?
 
  And if that doesn't work, is there a way to get Wireshark to read
  what goes between other NICs?
 
  The workstation is the only computer on the LAN with X, so I can't
  run Wireshark on any server or firewall system.

 Why not put wireshark on the target box, set up ssh with
 X-forwarding, run wireshark on the server from the workstation via
 xterm sshing to the target box?  It will run on the server but
 display on the workstation.

I thought of that, but figured I'd run into a lot of dependency issues.  
I didn't follow the entire tree, but I know Ethereal (the target box is 
still on Sarge for a while longer) needs gtk, and I haven't checked 
from there just what other graphic packages or such it needed.

Also I'd have to change my settings on the workstation, since I'm logged 
in to the target box under a different username and I remember that I'd 
have to dig into the X config somewhere to let X display a program run 
under a different user name than the one I'm logged in as.

Thanks for the idea, but for now tshark is handling it.  Unfortunately, 
I missed the deadline.  The system I was working with went down for 
upkeep at midnight and today my system is doing work until at least 
5:30 so I have to leave it alone until then.


Hal


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Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
I have a workstation and several other computers on my LAN, all running 
Linux -- either Debian or Ubuntu (Kubuntu for the workstation, Sarge on 
the rest -- please don't start on the version, I'll be updating it in 
my copious amounts of free time one year).

I am connecting to a computer through ssh and running some Perl programs 
on it.  I need to be able to see what is going out from that computer 
to a web site so I can verify the HTTP headers and data going both 
ways.  If this were on the workstation, I'd use Wireshark, but this 
system is console only and I'm not about to install X on it and deal 
with switching monitors for this one issue.

Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this 
computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the same 
way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?

And if that doesn't work, is there a way to get Wireshark to read what 
goes between other NICs?

The workstation is the only computer on the LAN with X, so I can't run 
Wireshark on any server or firewall system.


Thanks!

Hal


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun June 15 2008 20:16:19 Hal Vaughan wrote:
 Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this
 computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the same
 way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?

tshark can display packets in realtime or capture to a pcap file
which can be copied across the network for display in wireshark.

--Mike Bird


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote:
 On Sun June 15 2008 20:16:19 Hal Vaughan wrote:
  Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this
  computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the
  same way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?

 tshark can display packets in realtime or capture to a pcap file
 which can be copied across the network for display in wireshark.

I'm looking into that.  Unfortunately it's not in Sarge.  I have found a 
few since I posted by changing my search terms.  (I tend to always pick 
what sounds like good search terms that don't give me good hits!)

I just started looking at tcpdump, but I'm not sure if it'll give more 
than packet headers.  Unfortunately, I need to get this done tonight 
and this is the big hold up -- once I clear this, the rest will be 
easy, so it's one of those cases where I'm hoping I can find an easy to 
use tool that I don't have to spend hours learning how to configure.


Hal


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-15 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun June 15 2008 20:31:32 Hal Vaughan wrote:
 On Sunday 15 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote:
  On Sun June 15 2008 20:16:19 Hal Vaughan wrote:
   Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on this
   computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can scan in the
   same way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a system?
 
  tshark can display packets in realtime or capture to a pcap file
  which can be copied across the network for display in wireshark.

 I'm looking into that.  Unfortunately it's not in Sarge.  I have found a
 few since I posted by changing my search terms.  (I tend to always pick
 what sounds like good search terms that don't give me good hits!)

 I just started looking at tcpdump, but I'm not sure if it'll give more
 than packet headers.  Unfortunately, I need to get this done tonight
 and this is the big hold up -- once I clear this, the rest will be
 easy, so it's one of those cases where I'm hoping I can find an easy to
 use tool that I don't have to spend hours learning how to configure.

I don't have any systems running Sarge but the Packages file in the
repository says that Sarge includes tethereal, which was tshark before
the name change.

I used to use tcpdump and it was pretty good but these days the
ethereal/wireshark family seem to do a better job of analyzing
packets.

--Mike Bird


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Re: Monitoring Net Traffic From the Console or Another Comptuer

2008-06-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 15 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote:
 On Sun June 15 2008 20:31:32 Hal Vaughan wrote:
  On Sunday 15 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote:
   On Sun June 15 2008 20:16:19 Hal Vaughan wrote:
Is there any program (I couldn't find one) that I can run on
this computer, via SSH, that will give me packet info I can
scan in the same way I do with Wireshark when I've got X on a
system?
  
   tshark can display packets in realtime or capture to a pcap file
   which can be copied across the network for display in wireshark.
 
  I'm looking into that.  Unfortunately it's not in Sarge.  I have
  found a few since I posted by changing my search terms.  (I tend to
  always pick what sounds like good search terms that don't give me
  good hits!)
 
  I just started looking at tcpdump, but I'm not sure if it'll give
  more than packet headers.  Unfortunately, I need to get this done
  tonight and this is the big hold up -- once I clear this, the rest
  will be easy, so it's one of those cases where I'm hoping I can
  find an easy to use tool that I don't have to spend hours learning
  how to configure.

 I don't have any systems running Sarge but the Packages file in the
 repository says that Sarge includes tethereal, which was tshark
 before the name change.

 I used to use tcpdump and it was pretty good but these days the
 ethereal/wireshark family seem to do a better job of analyzing
 packets.

After your suggestion, I did find tethereal, but it doesn't seem to have 
as much as tshark.  I found it in the Sarge backports, along with 
wireshark-common, which it needed.  I got it up and running, dumped the 
output to a file and loaded it in with Wireshark on my workstation, so 
it's doing what I need now.

Thanks!


Hal


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