Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Am 2006-05-25 18:45:04, schrieb Ron Johnson: > "Most GNOME documents assume that you are using a standard (for > UNIX) 3-button mouse. It is common to refer to mouse buttons by > numbers: MB1, MB2, MB3. If you are using a usual 3-button mouse, > then MB1 is left, MB2 is middle, and MB3 is left; if you are > using2-button mouse, MB1 is left, MB3 is right, and you can > emulate MB2 by simultaneously pressing left and right mouse > buttons. If you are using a wheel mouse, the wheel plays the > role of MB2, Which is not right since the Double-Click (RL) is definitivly MB3. Note: I have found several different documentations which give Steve and YOU right... :-/ Greetings Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > s. keeling wrote: >> You: * 3 * > > Uh, no. That's called industry standard. The buttons are numbered in the > order that they appeared. We had a one button mouse, then a 2 button mouse > and then a 3 button mouse. The 2nd button went to the right of the first > hence RMB vs LMB and it is also button number 2. The third button to appear > was in the center, so it is button number 3. 4/5 appeared at the same time > and are on a rocker to the side. 4 foward, 5 back. > > Sorry that I'm following industry standard convention on this one but > don't blame me. Blame the 20 or so years of mouse development. North Carolina State University, the National Center for Atmospheric Research & GNOME agree with s.keeling. http://www.ncsu.edu/it/essentials/connections_labs/workstations/unix/basic_mouse.html The mouse attached to a Unix workstation has three buttons. Each button does something different. Let's start by giving each button a name. First, position the mouse so that the cord is at the top. * MB1 (mouse button 1) is the left button. * MB2 (mouse button 2) is the middle button. * MB3 (mouse button 3) is the right button. http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idv/docs/workshop/installandstart/basics/MouseAndKeyboard.html All references to mouse buttons are in respect to a 3-button right-handed mouse: * MB1 (mouse button 1) is the left button. * MB2 (mouse button 2) is the middle button. * MB3 (mouse button 3) is the right button. If you are using a left-handed mouse, MB1 is the right button and MB3 is the left-button. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2000-October/msg00138.html "Most GNOME documents assume that you are using a standard (for UNIX) 3-button mouse. It is common to refer to mouse buttons by numbers: MB1, MB2, MB3. If you are using a usual 3-button mouse, then MB1 is left, MB2 is middle, and MB3 is left; if you are using2-button mouse, MB1 is left, MB3 is right, and you can emulate MB2 by simultaneously pressing left and right mouse buttons. If you are using a wheel mouse, the wheel plays the role of MB2, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEdkF+S9HxQb37XmcRAvOLAJ9kUudjZTn0W/XNsLojAIbLILqUyQCg0mWO ejVGqFguMU7p9wKgo7tYZq0= =8POc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Christopher Nelson wrote: > A smart mail client shouldn't hide parts of the message unless you tell > it to, it should show you everything it can, and tell you what it can't > (with an option to set up an external handler). And most clients these days have an option, normally by default, to hide signatures. :P > At least when I change such a setting in mutt it assumes I want it > global unless I specifically tell it otherwise, which I can do per > folder(s) :) Yes, but there's no inheritance in Mutt. Only global or singular local. Which does not run counter to what I said. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
s. keeling wrote: > You: * 3 * Uh, no. That's called industry standard. The buttons are numbered in the order that they appeared. We had a one button mouse, then a 2 button mouse and then a 3 button mouse. The 2nd button went to the right of the first hence RMB vs LMB and it is also button number 2. The third button to appear was in the center, so it is button number 3. 4/5 appeared at the same time and are on a rocker to the side. 4 foward, 5 back. Sorry that I'm following industry standard convention on this one but don't blame me. Blame the 20 or so years of mouse development. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > s. keeling wrote: > > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some > > > such. > > > > ..^^^ Maybe on your mouse. On mine, that would be MB3. > > Maybe on your mouse, MB3 here is "center". :P Ick. Right handed: 1 2 3 Left handed: 3 2 1 You: * 3 * Ick. Ick. Ick. I really hate what's taken place in the mouse market lately. There are mice that sell for over C$80.00, and none with three buttons. Tragic. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
s. keeling wrote: > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some such. > ...^^^ Maybe on your mouse. On mine, that would be MB3. Maybe on your mouse, MB3 here is "center". :P -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Nelson wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 08:19:05PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > >>> But now I've got to do this for *every* folder? Yech. >> Yeah, I wouldn't mind a way to do some settings en masse when it comes to >> folders (like turning on threading, new mail checks) but since it's generally >> once once per install it's a minor inconvenience at best. At least it does >> inherit a lot of settings from the account itself which puts it head and >> shoulders above mutt. > > At least when I change such a setting in mutt it assumes I want it > global unless I specifically tell it otherwise, which I can do per > folder(s) :) And in Evo also. But the "individual folder" scheme that T-bird uses does have the benefit of reducing network traffic. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEczsXS9HxQb37XmcRAno+AJ9itcIWCYYr+wwSxnnuyrymeNrJZwCcD3Y0 dXRw6ZsJZFhPQ6g4VTEpfqs= =4A0p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 08:19:05PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Write the script once, add pithy little sayings to the data file as > > you find/hear them. Doesn't take much time... > > Which means what I said should tell you exactly how much importance I > place on such a little thing. I mean, c'mon, most email clients in use on > this list today hide the signature so most people aren't going to see them > anyway. Did *you* notice when I changed my signature (the first time in > almost 10 years)? Do you know what it was before? Could you recognize where > either saying came from? A smart mail client shouldn't hide parts of the message unless you tell it to, it should show you everything it can, and tell you what it can't (with an option to set up an external handler). Last place I heard the recent one was in an Evanescence song, though I'm young so it probably well predates that. > > But now I've got to do this for *every* folder? Yech. > > Yeah, I wouldn't mind a way to do some settings en masse when it comes to > folders (like turning on threading, new mail checks) but since it's generally > once once per install it's a minor inconvenience at best. At least it does > inherit a lot of settings from the account itself which puts it head and > shoulders above mutt. At least when I change such a setting in mutt it assumes I want it global unless I specifically tell it otherwise, which I can do per folder(s) :) -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- If you can't understand it, it is intuitively obvious. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some such. ...^^^ Maybe on your mouse. On mine, that would be MB3. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Write the script once, add pithy little sayings to the data file as >> you find/hear them. Doesn't take much time... > > Which means what I said should tell you exactly how much importance I > place on such a little thing. I mean, c'mon, most email clients in use on > this list today hide the signature so most people aren't going to see them > anyway. Neither Evo nor Maozilla/Tbird do. And I doubt KMail does. > Did *you* notice when I changed my signature (the first time in > almost 10 years)? Do you know what it was before? Could you recognize where > either saying came from? I actually do read them, and occasionally "borrow" them. >> But now I've got to do this for *every* folder? Yech. > > Yeah, I wouldn't mind a way to do some settings en masse when it comes to > folders (like turning on threading, new mail checks) but since it's generally > once once per install it's a minor inconvenience at best. At least it does > inherit a lot of settings from the account itself which puts it head and > shoulders above mutt. Now if T-bird would just implement Reply To List... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEb+0DS9HxQb37XmcRAkiyAKDNUPb3DrtSzZxJblawoYUEXU3GSwCfUv6S IO4wfgVHrznPetwLDGsSD/s= =nRhg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Ron Johnson wrote: > Write the script once, add pithy little sayings to the data file as > you find/hear them. Doesn't take much time... Which means what I said should tell you exactly how much importance I place on such a little thing. I mean, c'mon, most email clients in use on this list today hide the signature so most people aren't going to see them anyway. Did *you* notice when I changed my signature (the first time in almost 10 years)? Do you know what it was before? Could you recognize where either saying came from? > But now I've got to do this for *every* folder? Yech. Yeah, I wouldn't mind a way to do some settings en masse when it comes to folders (like turning on threading, new mail checks) but since it's generally once once per install it's a minor inconvenience at best. At least it does inherit a lot of settings from the account itself which puts it head and shoulders above mutt. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Q1. How do you use a executable .signature (fortune, etc)? > > *shrug* Never saw the appeal myself. If ya need more than one or two > pithy little sayings at the end of your messages then ya have too much > time on your hands. :) Write the script once, add pithy little sayings to the data file as you find/hear them. Doesn't take much time... >> Q2. I get my mail from an IMAP store that uses server-side >> filtering. How do I tell T-bird to scan all folders for new >> mail? Clicking on every folder gets old. > > RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some such. > Using Squirrelmail right now so can't tell you the exact terminology. Thanks, found it. But now I've got to do this for *every* folder? Yech. I guess I understand why they did it, since it then does not have to check big, old "archive" folders. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEb1mIS9HxQb37XmcRAvXcAKDnpO0xWFidAZhrz5hr56r86trLRwCgmcs8 4vcrU1pVQMji42pTO067GAw= =iPMG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Ron Johnson wrote: > Q1. How do you use a executable .signature (fortune, etc)? *shrug* Never saw the appeal myself. If ya need more than one or two pithy little sayings at the end of your messages then ya have too much time on your hands. :) > Q2. I get my mail from an IMAP store that uses server-side > filtering. How do I tell T-bird to scan all folders for new > mail? Clicking on every folder gets old. RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some such. Using Squirrelmail right now so can't tell you the exact terminology. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
Ron Johnson wrote: > Q1. How do you use a executable .signature (fortune, etc)? *shrug* Never saw the appeal myself. If ya need more than one or two pithy little sayings at the end of your messages then ya have too much time on your hands. :) > Q2. I get my mail from an IMAP store that uses server-side > filtering. How do I tell T-bird to scan all folders for new > mail? Clicking on every folder gets old. RMB on the folder, properties, click "check for new mail" or some such. Using Squirrelmail right now so can't tell you the exact terminology. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More questions about T-bird (was Re: Problem with T-bird (was ...))
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 16:35 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Even sub-folders? >> Not sure, never had a server that did subfolders so never really cared. >> OTOH I did care that I tried prior to Thunderbird seemed capable of storing >> sent mail on the server. Seemed dumb to me to force local folders for sent >> mail, drafts and other such storage when one might just want to have access >> to >> them from more than one client. >> >> So far in my recent tests (I'm a glutton for punishment) only Evolution >> and Thunderbird seem capable of using IMAP in that fashion and Evolution >> fails >> since it doesn't seem to talk IMAPS. > > After reading how much you like T-bird, I installed it and tried > it. However, it does not let me use sendmail as the outgoing > email method. That's... unbelievable. Ok, I'm using T-bird now, since I'm trying out XFce4. But there are a couple of things that Evo does that I can't find in T-bird. Q1. How do you use a executable .signature (fortune, etc)? Q2. I get my mail from an IMAP store that uses server-side filtering. How do I tell T-bird to scan all folders for new mail? Clicking on every folder gets old. Thanks, Ron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEbcxbS9HxQb37XmcRAmPkAJ9XFb4no+e0eyseKJ30Xz9CWpZGxgCg2/7T lIGySGhEYh08xvwHgGsTlhQ= =pE4q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
