My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Brad Alexander
Hi,

I'm posting this because I don't know where to begin looking. I have done a
few searches, and it seems to be alles in ordnung, but things still aren't
working.

To explain, I have a SBLive emu10k1 card in my sid workstation. All was
fine until a few weeks ago:

05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)

The drivers are installed and loaded:

snd_emu10k1_synth  13016  0
snd_emux_synth 29075  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_emu10k1   132168  5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_ac97_codec106837  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm68104  4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 13043  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem   12704  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep  13186  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_rawmidi23297  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer  22581  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 13137  5
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd52823  19
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
emu10k1_gp 12494  0
gameport   13649  2 emu10k1_gp

...however, alsamixer shows the card and chip being PulseAudio for
playback, and KDE shows the output as dummy and nothing in the capture
device. There seems to be a disconnect between pulse and alsa, and it only
cropped up a couple of weeks ago.

How do I get pulseaudio talking to the SBLive and get sound back to my
workstation?

Thanks,
--b


Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Rares Aioanei

On 11/19/2011 06:21 PM, Brad Alexander wrote:

Hi,

I'm posting this because I don't know where to begin looking. I have 
done a few searches, and it seems to be alles in ordnung, but things 
still aren't working.


To explain, I have a SBLive emu10k1 card in my sid workstation. All 
was fine until a few weeks ago:


05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 
(rev 07)


The drivers are installed and loaded:

snd_emu10k1_synth  13016  0
snd_emux_synth 29075  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_emu10k1   132168  5 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_ac97_codec106837  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm68104  4 snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 13043  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem   12704  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep  13186  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_rawmidi23297  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer  22581  3 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 13137  5 
snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd52823  19 
snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

emu10k1_gp 12494  0
gameport   13649  2 emu10k1_gp

...however, alsamixer shows the card and chip being PulseAudio for 
playback, and KDE shows the output as dummy and nothing in the 
capture device. There seems to be a disconnect between pulse and alsa, 
and it only cropped up a couple of weeks ago.


How do I get pulseaudio talking to the SBLive and get sound back to my 
workstation?


Thanks,
--b

What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Ingo Kasten



What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.


That's what I did, too. Removing pulseaudio instantly brings back the 
sound :-)
Unfortunately pulseaudio is a dependency of gnome(3)-core , which is, as 
far as I understand, just for keeping gnome consistant.

I removed it, too. So I'll have to keep an eye on gnome for myself...
(In fact I'm using KDE)

Ingo


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Brad Alexander
Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to keep
it from getting reinstalled?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Ingo Kasten ingo.kas...@nwn.de wrote:


  What I usually do is remove pulseaudio and it works afterwards.


 That's what I did, too. Removing pulseaudio instantly brings back the
 sound :-)
 Unfortunately pulseaudio is a dependency of gnome(3)-core , which is, as
 far as I understand, just for keeping gnome consistant.
 I removed it, too. So I'll have to keep an eye on gnome for myself...
 (In fact I'm using KDE)

 Ingo


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Graham
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:32:48 -0500
Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
 keep it from getting reinstalled?

Firstly, let me say that I've not got pulseaudio installed, so forgive
me if there's a better way. If there's no sensible way to disable
pulseaudio, you could create a dummy package using equivs, which you
install in place of pulseaudio to satisfy dependencies, and would then
stop the real pusleaudio getting pulled in. man equivs-control and man
equivs-build for instructions. Also there's this blog that deals with
the issue:
http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2005/09/creating-dummy-debian-package-for.html


Graham


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Ingo Kasten

Am 19.11.2011 21:40, schrieb Brad Alexander:

Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
keep it from getting reinstalled?



First, let me repeat (with other words): it is a dirty way. But I guess, 
if you do not install gnome-core again, you won't get pulseaudio as well.
On the other hand, this issue (feature?) is well-known, you'll find some 
suggestions to disable pulseaudio from getting loaded (please google 
pulseaudio, autospawn) but I felt like this being too uncomfortable 
for me.


Ingo


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Re: My sound blaster live disappeared

2011-11-19 Thread Brad Alexander
Yeah, the problem with that is that some package maintainer for some
package that I do use, down the line, may get the bright idea to make pulse
a dependency.

I also wonder if a newer build of Debian may work out the issues with
pulse. This particular box hasn't been rebuilt in about 5 years...I plan to
rebuild it in the next month or two because I want to upgrade from i386 to
amd64...


On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Ingo Kasten ingo.kas...@nwn.de wrote:

 Am 19.11.2011 21:40, schrieb Brad Alexander:

  Thanks, gents...That worked for a treat. Now what is the best way to
 keep it from getting reinstalled?


 First, let me repeat (with other words): it is a dirty way. But I guess,
 if you do not install gnome-core again, you won't get pulseaudio as well.
 On the other hand, this issue (feature?) is well-known, you'll find some
 suggestions to disable pulseaudio from getting loaded (please google
 pulseaudio, autospawn) but I felt like this being too uncomfortable for
 me.


 Ingo


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