Re: NE2500 NIC

1999-12-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
Phil Brutsche said:
 Hrm... A quick grep through the kernel source indicates that this card
 uses the AMD PCnet (aka lance) chipset.  The driver is lance.o.  What
 specific problems are you having with this card?

During installation, I haven't been able to come up with a parameter string
which will successfully install the lance.o module.  It invariably responds,
Device or resource busy.  Installation failed.

 You might want to try some fairly radical ways of figuring out what this
 mystery card is.  It's one of the few things Windows 9x is good for

If I'm going to try that, this is certainly the right time to do it...

 (the
 other two are wasting time and playing computer games.  However, some
 might say those two are indistinguishable).

There are many ways to waste time, playing games is just one of the best of
them.

 Could the DOS program tell you what the IRQ  I/O settings are?  Based on
 my (admittedly limited) experience with this chipset, they don't use
 jumpers, but still aren't PnP.

Nope.  On startup, it displays default values of I/O 0x200, IRQ 3, DMA 7.  To
change them, you have to first turn off PnP support.  (I tried feeding those
values to lance.o even though IRQ 3 should belong to COM1.  Naturally, they
failed.)

 On that thought, AMD's web site might be of some help.

Why AMD?  The docs from the NE2500s only mention Microdyne and Eagle.  (Of
course, I've had them for a few years...  I suppose AMD may have bought that
line out...)

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Re: NE2500 NIC

1999-12-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
Shaul Karl said:
 1) /sbin/isapnp
 2) Donald Becker home page has links to programs to run that will give you 
 info about installed NIC.

Donald's page has a number of ISA card utilities, but they're all tied to
specific chipsets.  NE2500/Lance is not among them and, of course, trying to
use a chipset-specific utility on a mystery card would tend to get you
nowhere fast.  It looks like a good place to remember for future exploration,
though.

isapnp was the key, though.  Took a bit of playing around before I found
pnpdump to give me a start on a config file, and it worked well from there.
Thanks!

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NE2500 NIC

1999-12-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
I just salvaged a P100 system that the local university was throwing out and
am trying to set it up with an NE2500 ethernet card.  The card, however, is
not cooperating... thanks to Plug 'n' Pray.

I've found a Red Hat-based NE2500 howto, but it basically boils down to
'install the system using a different NIC, then swap cards and manually edit
the configuration to use the new one'.  The only ISA NICs I have, however,
are a pair of NE2500s and the card that was in the machine when I got it -
and I have no idea what kind of card that one is.  (Google searches on the
more important-looking of the numbers on the chips turned up no matches.  The
only text is the name Fil-Mag on one of the chips, which allowed me to
identify the chip as a filter.)

The NE2500s have a DOS-based config program which supposedly lets you turn
PnP off, but it complains that the card's EEPROM is the wrong revision and I
need to run the NE2500 patch program.  None of the three floppies that came
with the card contain any programs whose names suggest that they might patch
the EEPROM and the (pathetic) docs don't mention it either.  A Google search
for ne2500 patch only turned up sites where they sell both NE2500s and
patch cables...

So, any suggestions on how I might get the NE2500s to work for me and/or
identify the mystery NIC?

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Re: NE2500 NIC

1999-12-05 Thread Shaul Karl
1) /sbin/isapnp
2) Donald Becker home page has links to programs to run that will give you 
info about installed NIC.


 I just salvaged a P100 system that the local university was throwing out and
 am trying to set it up with an NE2500 ethernet card.  The card, however, is
 not cooperating... thanks to Plug 'n' Pray.
 
 I've found a Red Hat-based NE2500 howto, but it basically boils down to
 'install the system using a different NIC, then swap cards and manually edit
 the configuration to use the new one'.  The only ISA NICs I have, however,
 are a pair of NE2500s and the card that was in the machine when I got it -
 and I have no idea what kind of card that one is.  (Google searches on the
 more important-looking of the numbers on the chips turned up no matches.  The
 only text is the name Fil-Mag on one of the chips, which allowed me to
 identify the chip as a filter.)
 
 The NE2500s have a DOS-based config program which supposedly lets you turn
 PnP off, but it complains that the card's EEPROM is the wrong revision and I
 need to run the NE2500 patch program.  None of the three floppies that came
 with the card contain any programs whose names suggest that they might patch
 the EEPROM and the (pathetic) docs don't mention it either.  A Google search
 for ne2500 patch only turned up sites where they sell both NE2500s and
 patch cables...
 
 So, any suggestions on how I might get the NE2500s to work for me and/or
 identify the mystery NIC?
 
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Re: NE2500 NIC

1999-12-05 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 I just salvaged a P100 system that the local university was throwing
 out and am trying to set it up with an NE2500 ethernet card.  The
 card, however, is not cooperating... thanks to Plug 'n' Pray.

Hrm... A quick grep through the kernel source indicates that this card
uses the AMD PCnet (aka lance) chipset.  The driver is lance.o.  What
specific problems are you having with this card?

 The only ISA NICs I have, however, are a pair of NE2500s and the card
 that was in the machine when I got it - and I have no idea what kind
 of card that one is.

You might want to try some fairly radical ways of figuring out what this
mystery card is.  It's one of the few things Windows 9x is good for (the
other two are wasting time and playing computer games.  However, some
might say those two are indistinguishable).  The last time I tried SuSE
(around 6.1 or so) it had a pretty nifty PnP setup where it would try to
load all NIC drivers until it found one that worked.  You might try that.

 (Google searches on the more important-looking of the numbers on the
 chips turned up no matches.  The only text is the name Fil-Mag on
 one of the chips, which allowed me to identify the chip as a filter.)

I find that Google is useless more often than not - Yahoo! still works
better (IMO).

 The NE2500s have a DOS-based config program which supposedly lets you turn
 PnP off, but it complains that the card's EEPROM is the wrong revision and I
 need to run the NE2500 patch program.

Could the DOS program tell you what the IRQ  I/O settings are?  Based on
my (admittedly limited) experience with this chipset, they don't use
jumpers, but still aren't PnP.

On that thought, AMD's web site might be of some help.

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