Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Geoff R Deasey wrote:

> If you type ping -c 5 www.microsoft.com
> how long does it take before you see the first 
> line ?  
> 
> This almost sounds like a DNS timeout.

Here is the output:
bridge:~ ! ping -c 5 www.microsoft.com
PING www.microsoft.com (207.68.137.59): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=0 ttl=49 time=214.8 ms
64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=213.0 ms
64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=218.7 ms
64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=207.3 ms
64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=207.4 ms

--- www.microsoft.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 207.3/212.2/218.7 ms
bridge:~ !

Just for comparison the central communication host of our
university:

bridge:~ ! ping -c 5 mlucom
PING mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de (141.48.3.3): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=251 time=5.6 ms
64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=251 time=5.5 ms
64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=251 time=6.0 ms
64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=251 time=5.8 ms
64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=251 time=13.6 ms

--- mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 5.5/7.3/13.6 ms
bridge:~ !

I don't know what times to expect. But why have lynx to
look at www.microsoft.com (or any other host for instance).
How to avoid looking at hosts which are situated oversea?

Andreas.


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Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-16 Thread Geoff R Deasey
If you type ping -c 5 www.microsoft.com
how long does it take before you see the first 
line ?  

This almost sounds like a DNS timeout.

--Jeff  (just a guess)


On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Brian C. White wrote:

> > > The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
> > > it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking
> > > an external process.
> >
> > Where is 2.12 available. I can only find 2.11 on my nearest Debian
> > mirror.
> 
> It was stuck in incoming until this morning.  As soon as ftp.debian.org
> catches up to master, it will be in Bo.
> 
> 
> > Lynx takes so terribly long time form me to start that I wonder if
> > I should install a plain ASCII-reader in my Midnight-Commander for
> > html files.
> > 
> > Are there possibly other reasons for this behaviour?
> 
> Not that I know of.
> 
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Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-16 Thread Brian C. White
> > The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
> > it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking
> > an external process.
>
> Where is 2.12 available. I can only find 2.11 on my nearest Debian
> mirror.

It was stuck in incoming until this morning.  As soon as ftp.debian.org
catches up to master, it will be in Bo.


> Lynx takes so terribly long time form me to start that I wonder if
> I should install a plain ASCII-reader in my Midnight-Commander for
> html files.
> 
> Are there possibly other reasons for this behaviour?

Not that I know of.

  Brian
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Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Brian C. White wrote:

> >  Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start?
> 
> It takes forever because they both read the entire file and run every
> single test condition they encounter.
> 
> The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
> it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking
> an external process.
Where is 2.12 available. I can only find 2.11 on my nearest Debian
mirror.

Lynx takes so terribly long time form me to start that I wonder if
I should install a plain ASCII-reader in my Midnight-Commander for
html files.

Are there possibly other reasons for this behaviour?

Andreas.


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Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-14 Thread Brian C. White
>  Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start?

It takes forever because they both read the entire file and run every
single test condition they encounter.

The latest mime-support (2.12) will work much better with lynx since
it tries to use tests that lynx can recognize internally without forking
an external process.

  Brian
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Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-14 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Herve" == Herve FLOCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> 
>> 
>> Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start?
>> 

> Is your DNS working correctly, is it as long if you ask for an
> address with nslookup ???

> Netscape takes time to start because of its size but lynx should
> start immediatly

nslookup is almost instant.  Could it be the MIME files being parsed?

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Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?

1997-04-14 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom

 Why does it take so long for Netscape or Lynx to start?

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