Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
* Ibrahim Shaame ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020131 23:18]: --- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: There's a short FAQ on GNU/Linux X display manager disabling you may find useful, at: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html Thank you. I think before sending him to FAQ you could have given him a quick answer and then refer him to the URL. The Perhaps. Or maybe this just happens to be a question that Karsten is asked frequently. So much so that he found it worthwhile to be able to answer the question *really* well one time and point people to his really nice explanation instead of giving six thousand quick half-answers. Apart from that, let me slip in a bit of my own pedagogical theory: giving someone a list of commands teaches a newbie nothing. It doesn't help them understand why the system was behaving differently than he wanted, and it doesn't help them diagnose or solve the next problem. It's the same old give a man a fish story. To answer the question: I don't know how it is with debian, but in slackware you go and edit the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local, This is not how it is in debian. Rather than answer the OP's question, you confuse the issue further. He's not going to find an /etc/rc.d/rc.local on his debian system. Karsten's answer was far better than yours. Also, to point out my own hipocrisy before anyone else does: another thing that turns newbies off from joining our side is the number of opinionated a-holes making such a big deal out of every little thing. I don't mean to be so rude -- just wanted to stand up for someone who's always been very helpful around here and doesn't need to be told how to help. good times, Vineet -- Currently seeking opportunities in the SF Bay Area Please see http://www.doorstop.net/resume/ -- I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. --Beatrice Hall, The Friends of Voltaire, 1906 pgpqSmj1WL33m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
I think before sending him to FAQ you could have given him a quick answer and then refer him to the URL. The most discouraging thing in Linux for a beginner is to start going through thousands of pages of man, FAQs and HOWTOs which are long in first place, and difficult to understand for a new convert. To answer the question: I don't know how it is with debian, but in slackware you go and edit the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local, comment out (put #) at the beginning of the line which has the name xdm (or kdm or gdm, depending whether you use raw xdm, KDE or Gnome display managers). This way next time you boot your machine it will bring you to a prompt similar to DO$, where you can log in with your user name and password. To start X you will type startx at the prompt (after logging in of course!) To go out of X you either go out through the procedure of your window manager (you should have a menu item for logging out) or you press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace. Regards Ibrahim --- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:33 PM +1300, Alan Shrimpton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Okay now X starts atomatically but I rather it not. I know it was my fault because I said yes to have it as default.. Now, how can I change back. Also once running how do I stop it? There's a short FAQ on GNU/Linux X display manager disabling you may find useful, at: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html Thank you. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ Land of the free We freed Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
On Thursday 31 January 2002 11:15 pm, Ibrahim Shaame wrote: I think before sending him to FAQ you could have given him a quick answer and then refer him to the URL. The most discouraging thing in Linux for a beginner is to start going through thousands of pages of man, FAQs and HOWTOs which are long in first place, and difficult to understand for a new convert. hey karsten, them's fightin' words.
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
Okay now X starts atomatically but I rather it not. I know it was my fault because I said yes to have it as default.. Now, how can I change back. Also once running how do I stop it? Cheers Al - Original Message - From: Alan Shrimpton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? Stupid I am. I have heard the letter X being used alot but I don't know what it is. Doubt I have the package downloaded. What is X? How do you run it in case I have it? Cheers Al Newbie - Original Message - From: Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Shrimpton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:37 AM Subject: Re: Netscape4, Mozilla On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Alan Shrimpton wrote: I obviously didn't have mozilla after all. I have installed it now but when I type mozilla and hit enter I get the message. No DISPLAY is set. Is there somewhere I can read up on this or may be someone can help? Make sure you're in X. Failing that, make sure you are trying to run it as the same user that X is running as. -- Baloo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:33 am, Alan Shrimpton wrote: Okay now X starts atomatically but I rather it not. I know it was my fault because I said yes to have it as default.. Now, how can I change back. Also once running how do I stop it? [snip] depending on whether it starts from xdm, gdm, or kdm, you can run update-rc.d whichever?dm remove when you reboot, you'll have a console prompt. to run x from there, use startx.
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 01:30, benfoley wrote: depending on whether it starts from xdm, gdm, or kdm, you can run update-rc.d whichever?dm remove when you reboot, you'll have a console prompt. to run x from there, use startx. No need to reboot. Just go to a console (Alt-Ctrl F1) and do as root '/etc/init.d/?dm stop' (with ? = x, k, or g) -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: Netscape4, Mozilla - Now what is X? - How to stop X?
on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 09:33 PM +1300, Alan Shrimpton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Okay now X starts atomatically but I rather it not. I know it was my fault because I said yes to have it as default.. Now, how can I change back. Also once running how do I stop it? There's a short FAQ on GNU/Linux X display manager disabling you may find useful, at: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html Thank you. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Home of the brave http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/Land of the free We freed Dmitry! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! http://www.freesklyarov.org Geek for Hire http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html pgpOEjxZGVGUX.pgp Description: PGP signature
