New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
Hi everyone, I downloaded debian 1.2 just before Xmas with the expectation of having some fun during the holidays (whenever kids would let dad on the computer :) that is!). Anyway, I have both home and work computers running Slackware 3.1 and am very happy with Linux. Debian seems to have a more complete setup with plenty of packages, giving me the opportunity to learn more, so I'm giving it a try. Some observations during installation: 1. My home computer has two hard drives and a Creative Labs, SB16, ATAPI CD-ROM, PlugPlay kit. The CD-ROM drive is set with the default settings (slave on a tertiary port on the soundcard). With Slackware I use loadlinux and the hdh=cdrom option at the boot prompt and it works fine. With debian, I first had to make /dev/hdh by hand. The custom disk would accept the hdh=cdrom option, would seem to see the drive, but would ask me for a root disk to complete the boot-up. Without the hdh=cdrom option it would boot, but no CD-ROM drive would be accessible. My solution: I went to the slack sources and installed loadlinux and after that it went fine. 2. Similarly, on my work computer with an old 2x Panasonic. I had to make /dev/sbpcd first. 3. OK now, request help for this: My preference in using Linux is doing most of my editing work on a console and only when I need graphics go to X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Obviously, I need to do some additional configuration. Something to do with the window managers perhaps? I would appreciate any pointers / suggestions on this. Thank you ** * Anastasios (Tasos) Drosopoulos* * email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * URL : http://www.dreo.dnd.ca * ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Tasos Drosopoulos wrote: 3. OK now, request help for this: My preference in using Linux is doing most of my editing work on a console and only when I need graphics go to X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Obviously, I need to do some additional configuration. Something to do with the window managers perhaps? I would appreciate any pointers / suggestions on this. My guess is that the problem is with your X configuration, not the window manager. Take a look at /etc/X11/XF86Config and modify it to agree with your previous Slackware version. --- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Tasos Drosopoulos wrote: 3. OK now, request help for this: My preference in using Linux is doing most of my editing work on a console and only when I need graphics go to X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Obviously, I need to do some additional configuration. Something to do with the window managers perhaps? I would appreciate any pointers / suggestions on this. You'll need some sort of ~/.xinitrc to sole this one, I believe. The .xinitrc file contains personal choices of what to run at X-startup. At least one of the command lines contained within should _NOT_ be run in the background, to keep the .xinitrc (essentially just another script) from completing (and falling out the bottom). I use xcon (which is merely a symbolic link to xterm) as my non-backgrounded process; when I exit the xcon, I exit X-windows. My .xinitrc: #! /bin/sh # # Backgrounded jobs process immediately # # xbiff - visual new mail. xbiff -update 3 -bg black -fg blue -geometry 96x96+0+0 # xclock - self explanatory xclock -bg black -fg red -hd white -update 1 -geometry 96x96+104+0 # xsysinfo - kernel activity/usage indicator xsysinfo -geometry 206x100-200+0 # fvwm - window manager fvwm # xhost - allows x clients onto this server. # coral is general purpose academic server. # reef was general purpose academic server, was mailhost. # templinux is my Linux server. (this is templin-wks, my workstation). xhost coral reef templinux # NON BACKGROUNDED - this script (and therefore xinit) exits when # this process finishes. # xcon - symlink to xterm (allows for different behavior in .fvwmrc xcon -C -geometry 80x6+312+0 Hope this helps. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
In your email to me, Tasos Drosopoulos, you wrote: 3. OK now, request help for this: My preference in using Linux is doing most of my editing work on a console and only when I need graphics go to X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Obviously, I need to do some additional configuration. Something to do with the window managers perhaps? I would appreciate any pointers / suggestions on this. Take a look in your home dir for a file named .xsession-errors (or something like that). That will tell you why X11 died. My guess is that /usr/X11R6/lib is missing from your /etc/ld.so.conf Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Cogito, ergo sum. Cogito, ergo doleo. Cogito sumere potum alterum. I think, I am. I think, I am depressed. I think I'll have another drink. -- Rob Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
3. OK now, request help for this: My preference in using Linux is doing most of my editing work on a console and only when I need graphics go to X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Obviously, I need to do some additional configuration. Something to do with the window managers perhaps? I would appreciate any pointers / suggestions on this. I remember when I first installed X in my Debian 1.1 box that X came up for a second or so and the exit. After I examined the log files in /var/log I realized that the problem was that my old XF86Config file that worked under a previous installation of X under Slackware was referencing my mouse as /dev/mouse, being /dev/mouse a symlink to /dev/psaux, the real device. After I changed the XF86Config file to reference the real file in /dev everything worked fine. Try looking at the differences between your Slackware setup and your new Debian setup. Take a look at the log files from the X server. The answer has to be there. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 1.2 install / Observations / X-window startx problem.
In your email to me, John Kintree, you wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Tim Sailer replied to Tasos Drosopoulos: X-windows. So I prefer to use startx and not xdm. The XFree86 3.2 that comes with slackware works fine. However, with debian, the screen flashes once, X-windows seem to come up for a second and then promptly exit. Take a look in your home dir for a file named .xsession-errors (or something like that). That will tell you why X11 died. My guess is that /usr/X11R6/lib is missing from your /etc/ld.so.conf I'm having the same problem as Tasos. My .xsession-errors file reports: /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95-2: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' That file, libXpm.so.4, exists and is a symbolic link to another file in that directory named, libXpm.so.4.7. My /etc/ld.co.conf file did not originally contain the line /usr/X11R6/lib, but after I added that line, the problem remains. I really want to try fvwm95, but after more than a week of failures, reading both the documentation and questions and answers in the newsgroups and mailing lists, I'm getting discouraged. This is on a new installation of Debian Linux 1.2 Did you run 'ldconfig' after adding the new line to the .conf file? Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Cogito, ergo sum. Cogito, ergo doleo. Cogito sumere potum alterum. I think, I am. I think, I am depressed. I think I'll have another drink. -- Rob Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
