Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Lisi wrote: On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means in the USA. Is that the case here? Lisi Yes. More specifically in *RURAL* southwest Missouri. There is no geographically local Linux support which is why I'm leaning towards new rather than used and vendor installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee4aae5@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Sunday 11 December 2011 13:06:45 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi wrote: On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means in the USA. Is that the case here? Lisi Yes. More specifically in *RURAL* southwest Missouri. There is no geographically local Linux support which is why I'm leaning towards new rather than used and vendor installed. Pity. There is a super firm in the UK! Rural is another of the words that has a different meaning in the two languages. We simply haven't got room to spread our population out much! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201112111323.08425.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. Sorry for being late to the party, When I bgought my last machine from Dell there were several options in the Inspiron and Vostro line that came with Ubuntu. Phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee501cc.2080...@kermitplace.us
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
* Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.com [111211 08:19]: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Back in the days of Lenny, this outfit has shipped laptops with Debian installed and everything working, including WiFi, webcam, audio, and BlueTooth (except perhaps not the fingerprint reader). Perhaps a bit on the expensive side, but faithful, in my experience: redbarncomputers.com 1235 Upper Front Street Suite #3 Binghamton New York 13905 salesATredbarnhpcDOTcom 800-796-8809 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111211194619.ga9...@gospelbroadcasting.org
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Lisi wrote: On Sunday 11 December 2011 13:06:45 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi wrote: On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means in the USA. Is that the case here? Lisi Yes. More specifically in *RURAL* southwest Missouri. There is no geographically local Linux support which is why I'm leaning towards new rather than used and vendor installed. Pity. There is a super firm in the UK! True. I've dealt with some. Unfortunately they weren't in business of selling Linux capable computers ;) Rural is another of the words that has a different meaning in the two languages. I assume you're referencing comment attributed to Winston Churchill (and others) that we are two peoples separated by a common language. I'll have to ask a friend who grew up in London and has lived here for several what would be appropriate term in British English. More seriously, what is the company you are referring to? If they have a product/service which justifies the hassle of an international transaction I might go that way. We simply haven't got room to spread our population out much! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee50cf6.1020...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
marcus wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. Sorry for being late to the party, When I bgought my last machine from Dell there were several options in the Inspiron and Vostro line that came with Ubuntu. Phil No, it's not you who is late to party. It is DELL : I've referred many people to DELL based on ancient history - P/S2 was *NEW*. Dell *MAY*, under duress?, sell what I want - but they try to avoid it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee50f87.3090...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On 12/11/2011 02:46 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: * Richard Owlettrowl...@pcnetinc.com [111211 08:19]: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Back in the days of Lenny, this outfit has shipped laptops with Debian installed and everything working, including WiFi, webcam, audio, and BlueTooth (except perhaps not the fingerprint reader). Perhaps a bit on the expensive side, but faithful, in my experience: redbarncomputers.com 1235 Upper Front Street Suite #3 Binghamton New York 13905 salesATredbarnhpcDOTcom 800-796-8809 ^^these folks have been around for as long as ive lived in upstate ny, not too far from me actually. while ive never dealt with them, ive heard good things about them, just pricey. steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee51469.1090...@roadrunner.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Pity. There is a super firm in the UK! At Los Alamos Computer a reputable American company will install your choice of any GNU/Linux distribution on a variety of Lenovo Think Pads. http://laclinux.com/en/Laptop -- ps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9kki3ufjj...@mid.individual.net
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:01 PM, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 12/09/2011 06:37 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. --doug Here's the section on working with volume labels from the Linux Partition HOWTO: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/#volumelabels Everything you need to know is there. :-) -- Chris Thank you. Answered questions of longstanding and some questions that I didn't know I should have been asking. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee3542d.5080...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Jude DaShiell wrote: On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, doug wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. I think I've heard that Asus will ship with Linux, and perhaps also eMachines, altho from what I read, eMachines does not have a good record. All vendors I've read about ship with Ubuntu, so if you don't want that, you'll have to install something else yourself, and/or set up a dual boot with 2 Linux distros. That works fine--I have 3 distros plus XP on this Dell laptop. From any of the Linuxes, you can access the files the others and XP. Unfortunately, I can't access the Linux files from XP. If I had set up the Linuxes on exp2 or exp3 I think I could have found a program that lets XP communicate with them, but I didn't. Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. --doug Dell maybe still does this. They used to a while ago. I knew they did at one time and had gone there first. They do a pretty good job of concealing Linux if you enter via Home/Home Office. I did find some information by searching their site with Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee367a1.5020...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
der.hans wrote: Am 09. Dec, 2011 schwätzte Richard Owlett so: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. ZaReason. Emporor Linux has been around for a long time. ciao, der.hans They seem a bit pricey. The site is well done so closer inspection of what you get for your buck seems warranted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee3689a.9050...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Look at linux.dell.com Dell maybe still does this. They used to a while ago. I knew they did at one time and had gone there first. They do a pretty good job of concealing Linux if you enter via Home/Home Office. I did find some information by searching their site with Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a6a86b2193f2ece191b344fa2bce0e94.squir...@webmail.strucktower.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Vi, 09 dec 11, 15:29:17, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. There used to be ThinkPads sold with Suse pre-installed, don't know if there still are some. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Multi-booting (was: Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled)
On Vi, 09 dec 11, 18:24:56, doug wrote: Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. I would go for sharing the same Documents (or whatever place you use for saving stuff) between all installations. There are several techniques to achieve this. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means in the USA. Is that the case here? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201112102023.01968.lisi.re...@gmail.com
New laptop with Linux preinstalled
I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee27dad.2010...@pcnetinc.com
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Am 09. Dec, 2011 schwätzte Richard Owlett so: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. ZaReason. Emporor Linux has been around for a long time. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # ABLEconf: Saturday, March 24th 2012. CfP closes Sunday, December 18th, 2011 # I only eat free-range vegetables that were hunted down and slain by # a member of my immediate family. -- der.hans
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. I think I've heard that Asus will ship with Linux, and perhaps also eMachines, altho from what I read, eMachines does not have a good record. All vendors I've read about ship with Ubuntu, so if you don't want that, you'll have to install something else yourself, and/or set up a dual boot with 2 Linux distros. That works fine--I have 3 distros plus XP on this Dell laptop. From any of the Linuxes, you can access the files the others and XP. Unfortunately, I can't access the Linux files from XP. If I had set up the Linuxes on exp2 or exp3 I think I could have found a program that lets XP communicate with them, but I didn't. Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee298c8.6090...@optonline.net
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:24:56 -0500, doug wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. I think I've heard that Asus will ship with Linux, and perhaps also eMachines, altho from what I read, eMachines does not have a good record. All vendors I've read about ship with Ubuntu, so if you don't want that, you'll have to install something else yourself, and/or set up a dual boot with 2 Linux distros. That works fine--I have 3 distros plus XP on this Dell laptop. From any of the Linuxes, you can access the files the others and XP. Unfortunately, I can't access the Linux files from XP. If I had set up the Linuxes on exp2 or exp3 I think I could have found a program that lets XP communicate with them, but I didn't. Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. And you are almost certainly well served by being unable to access your Linux partitions from Windoze (there are ways, but they should be treated with extreme caution, since Windoze does not understand file permissions properly). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbu643$3gg$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
Dell maybe still does this. They used to a while ago.On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, doug wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. I think I've heard that Asus will ship with Linux, and perhaps also eMachines, altho from what I read, eMachines does not have a good record. All vendors I've read about ship with Ubuntu, so if you don't want that, you'll have to install something else yourself, and/or set up a dual boot with 2 Linux distros. That works fine--I have 3 distros plus XP on this Dell laptop. From any of the Linuxes, you can access the files the others and XP. Unfortunately, I can't access the Linux files from XP. If I had set up the Linuxes on exp2 or exp3 I think I could have found a program that lets XP communicate with them, but I didn't. Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. --doug Jude jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1112091929410.98...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Friday 09 December 2011 12:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. HP ships laptops with Freedos, or enterprise Suse or Redhat. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201112091644.00538.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On 12/09/2011 06:37 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:24:56 -0500, doug wrote: /snip/ Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents directory, put a filename that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a partition, you can figure out what system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing! There might be an easier way, but I don't know it. /snip/ Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee2bd8b.1040...@optonline.net
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:01 PM, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 12/09/2011 06:37 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. --doug Here's the section on working with volume labels from the Linux Partition HOWTO: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/#volumelabels Everything you need to know is there. :-) -- Chris
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:01:47 -0500, doug wrote: OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. I think you are confusing partition labels with mount points. Scroogle is your friend. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jbufvs$636$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled
On 12/09/2011 09:04 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:01 PM, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 12/09/2011 06:37 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: Labelling the partitions sensibly is probably a better plan. OK, I'll bite. How do you label the partitions? I was under the impression that they would have to be called / or /home or /boot, and so on. --doug Here's the section on working with volume labels from the Linux Partition HOWTO: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/#volumelabels Everything you need to know is there. :-) -- Chris Thank you, Chris.--doug
