Re: Newbie on the verge of trashing thinkpad

1999-03-20 Thread Ed Slocomb
O.k., maybe I didn't give enough info on this.  I have a thinkpad 755c.
After installing I'm getting message memory address conflict at (address)
error 0011.  Then error 0011 repeats ad infinitum. I have 20 meg of ram
and have set up a 40 meg swap partition. The remaining space (320 meg) is
divided 40 meg for dos and 320 for linux. I have not gotten this type of
message before, so memory config has worked in the past.


Coaxing debian onto a thinkpad can be a task that requires a great deal of 
patience.  Please be forgiving if any of the stuff below is too basic-- I'm 
assuming you don't have much experience with debian, and if that isn't the 
case, then some of what follows may come off as boring or insulting.

I think I've seen a that error on a thinkpad.  IIRC, I resolved it by compiling 
the kernel and making a zImage rather than a bzImage.  

You have two problems:  

1) In the debian installation process, a reboot is required before you can go 
on to package selection and finishing the installation.  If you start your 
installation from, say, your dos partition, install the (bzImage) kernel and 
lilo, and then attempt to boot that kernel from the hard drive toward the end 
of your installation procedure, then you will be stuck.  I seem to remember 
getting around this problem by finding a floppy image that would boot on a 
thinkpad (some guy in japan had built the image), and then using that floppy 
for the reboot, using the installation program the second time around only to 
activate swap and mount my partitions before cancelling (or hitting alt+f2 for 
a VC) and running deselect.  It helps if you've already done a few debian 
installs...

2) Once you've figured out how to get a full installation onto your drive, you 
still won't be able to boot from the hard drive-- not until you recompile your 
kernel.  Install kernel-source, kernel-package, and pcmcia-source.  Edit 
/etc/kernel-pkg.conf , adding the line:
kimage := zImage
Dig that pascal syntax!  Anyway.  Read /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use 
zmore or zless).  Follow the instructions for the impatient, and start your 
kernel build.  While your kernel is compiling, go back and read the rest of the 
document.  There's good stuff in there.  Build your modules_image.  Now install 
the kernel-image and modules debs that you've created  (you need to do the 
modules to make sure that your PCMCIA support will still be there when you're 
done.  This is a nasty gotcha if you're doing any sort of pcmcia-requiring 
installation/upgrade stuff-- like me.  I do things over a PCMCIA network card).

Then you can move on to fun things like getting X to work properly, mucking 
about with your sound hardware, getting your APM settings right, etc.  I've got 
almost every part of a tp600 working with debian, and if I knew the first thing 
about package management, I'd roll up my modifications/configurations and 
distribute a thinkpad-600.deb


This is all from memory.  My memory is very leaky.  I may have remembered one 
floppy-install trick, when it was actually a different one that worked.  In any 
case, If you already have a floppy that will boot, then you're halfway there.

Debian is still a bit behind other distributions on laptops, but you can 
usually make things work if you're persistent.

Ed


Newbie on the verge of trashing thinkpad

1999-03-19 Thread Oshman, Ben
O.k., maybe I didn't give enough info on this.  I have a thinkpad 755c.
After installing I'm getting message memory address conflict at (address)
error 0011.  Then error 0011 repeats ad infinitum. I have 20 meg of ram
and have set up a 40 meg swap partition. The remaining space (320 meg) is
divided 40 meg for dos and 320 for linux. I have not gotten this type of
message before, so memory config has worked in the past.

Any help?


Ben Oshman
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(703) 709-7667


Re: Newbie on the verge of trashing thinkpad

1999-03-19 Thread Dale E. Martin
Oshman, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 O.k., maybe I didn't give enough info on this.  I have a thinkpad 755c.
 After installing I'm getting message memory address conflict at (address)
 error 0011.  Then error 0011 repeats ad infinitum. I have 20 meg of ram
 and have set up a 40 meg swap partition. The remaining space (320 meg) is
 divided 40 meg for dos and 320 for linux. I have not gotten this type of
 message before, so memory config has worked in the past.
 
 Any help?

Is it Linux complaining, or your BIOS?  If it's linux, did you try using a
mem=18M parameter to lilo, just for grins?  I've never seen this problem
- I'm just tossing out ideas.

Later,
Dale
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Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Oshman, Ben
I haven't found any info on setting up memory for Linux on a thinkpad. I
keep gettting this damn memory address conflict when Linux boots up that
stops the earth from spinning. I think that since I deleted DOS before
installing, there's no memory management taking place. Where can I go for
help?

- Ben


Re: Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Oshman, Ben wrote:

 I haven't found any info on setting up memory for Linux on a thinkpad. I
 keep gettting this damn memory address conflict when Linux boots up that
 stops the earth from spinning. I think that since I deleted DOS before
 installing, there's no memory management taking place. Where can I go for
 help?
 

Heh, DOS and memory management don't even belong in the same sentence.
You definitely don't need DOS installed in order to install Linux.  In any
case, here's a URL that discusses running Linux on a Thinkpak 760.  There
are many other links from that page, so if it doesn't have all the info
you need, or if you have a different model, you should still be able to
find some good Thinkpad info.

Good luck,
noah

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Re: Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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Umm, I probably sould have included the URL...oops.  Here it is:
http://www.muc.de/~hm/linux/thinkpad.html

noah


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RE: Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Pollywog

On 10-Mar-99 Oshman, Ben wrote:
 I haven't found any info on setting up memory for Linux on a thinkpad. I
 keep gettting this damn memory address conflict when Linux boots up that
 stops the earth from spinning. I think that since I deleted DOS before
 installing, there's no memory management taking place. Where can I go for
 help?
I have a ThinkPad 560 and I did not have any DOS or Windows installed when I
installed Debian. 

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Re: Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Oshman, Ben wrote:

 : I haven't found any info on setting up memory for Linux on a thinkpad. I
 : keep gettting this damn memory address conflict when Linux boots up that
 : stops the earth from spinning. I think that since I deleted DOS before
 : installing, there's no memory management taking place. Where can I go for
 : help?

What color Thinkpad is it?

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Re: Newbie on the Verge of Trashing Thinkpad

1999-03-10 Thread Shaleh
And as an aside, debian-laptop is now open as a mailing list for laptop issues.